Anonymous
Post 02/17/2023 21:06     Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

I now have a crush on Pedro Pascal, just like I did years ago on David Duchovny, the delectable Agent Mulder.
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Post 02/16/2023 21:34     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.

It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.


+1
Pedro Pascal is excellent and I had never really been aware of him before. I love that he’s also comedically gifted, as seen on SNL. And he is a beautiful man!!

The Walking Dead was never a show about zombies either - it was about the relationships of the humans living in that world. My husband had to convince me to watch that and that’s what he said that finally sold it. The zombies, in both TWD and The Last of Us, are just the backdrop to demonstrate human nature in the face of horror/trauma/apocalypse.

Huge fan of both The Road (utterly horrifying) and Children of Men.


Came here to say just this. Agreed as to both. TWD was my fave show EVER. The Last of Us is becoming a fave as well. I freaking LOVE Pedro Pascal. I love the story. Everything. I also know, after watching both, I'd never survive either of these scenarios: No survival skills, no skills with weapons, I can't eat the rotten crap they eat (I'd starve), and I'd not be able to leave my pets behind (and the hound dogs would make enough noise to draw a horde to me on day 1). LOL.


IMO TWD lost its way a bit but generally agree, particularly about the early seasons.


Agree (I'm the poster in bold above) - it was fantastic up until the whole "Kingdom" nonsense. I still watched all seasons, but it definitely was far better early on.



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Post 02/16/2023 21:31     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.

It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.


+1
Pedro Pascal is excellent and I had never really been aware of him before. I love that he’s also comedically gifted, as seen on SNL. And he is a beautiful man!!

The Walking Dead was never a show about zombies either - it was about the relationships of the humans living in that world. My husband had to convince me to watch that and that’s what he said that finally sold it. The zombies, in both TWD and The Last of Us, are just the backdrop to demonstrate human nature in the face of horror/trauma/apocalypse.

Huge fan of both The Road (utterly horrifying) and Children of Men.


Came here to say just this. Agreed as to both. TWD was my fave show EVER. The Last of Us is becoming a fave as well. I freaking LOVE Pedro Pascal. I love the story. Everything. I also know, after watching both, I'd never survive either of these scenarios: No survival skills, no skills with weapons, I can't eat the rotten crap they eat (I'd starve), and I'd not be able to leave my pets behind (and the hound dogs would make enough noise to draw a horde to me on day 1). LOL.


IMO TWD lost its way a bit but generally agree, particularly about the early seasons.


Agree (I'm the poster in bold above) - it was fantastic up until the whole "Kingdom" nonsense. I still watched all seasons, but it definitely was far better early on.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2023 14:42     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.

It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.


+1
Pedro Pascal is excellent and I had never really been aware of him before. I love that he’s also comedically gifted, as seen on SNL. And he is a beautiful man!!

The Walking Dead was never a show about zombies either - it was about the relationships of the humans living in that world. My husband had to convince me to watch that and that’s what he said that finally sold it. The zombies, in both TWD and The Last of Us, are just the backdrop to demonstrate human nature in the face of horror/trauma/apocalypse.

Huge fan of both The Road (utterly horrifying) and Children of Men.


Came here to say just this. Agreed as to both. TWD was my fave show EVER. The Last of Us is becoming a fave as well. I freaking LOVE Pedro Pascal. I love the story. Everything. I also know, after watching both, I'd never survive either of these scenarios: No survival skills, no skills with weapons, I can't eat the rotten crap they eat (I'd starve), and I'd not be able to leave my pets behind (and the hound dogs would make enough noise to draw a horde to me on day 1). LOL.


IMO TWD lost its way a bit but generally agree, particularly about the early seasons.


Most shows on for a decade lose their way at some point. People leave (actors and producers). But, not to hijak, I don't think it was as bad as people made it out to be.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2023 13:52     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.

It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.


+1
Pedro Pascal is excellent and I had never really been aware of him before. I love that he’s also comedically gifted, as seen on SNL. And he is a beautiful man!!

The Walking Dead was never a show about zombies either - it was about the relationships of the humans living in that world. My husband had to convince me to watch that and that’s what he said that finally sold it. The zombies, in both TWD and The Last of Us, are just the backdrop to demonstrate human nature in the face of horror/trauma/apocalypse.

Huge fan of both The Road (utterly horrifying) and Children of Men.


Came here to say just this. Agreed as to both. TWD was my fave show EVER. The Last of Us is becoming a fave as well. I freaking LOVE Pedro Pascal. I love the story. Everything. I also know, after watching both, I'd never survive either of these scenarios: No survival skills, no skills with weapons, I can't eat the rotten crap they eat (I'd starve), and I'd not be able to leave my pets behind (and the hound dogs would make enough noise to draw a horde to me on day 1). LOL.


IMO TWD lost its way a bit but generally agree, particularly about the early seasons.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2023 13:00     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.

It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.


+1
Pedro Pascal is excellent and I had never really been aware of him before. I love that he’s also comedically gifted, as seen on SNL. And he is a beautiful man!!

The Walking Dead was never a show about zombies either - it was about the relationships of the humans living in that world. My husband had to convince me to watch that and that’s what he said that finally sold it. The zombies, in both TWD and The Last of Us, are just the backdrop to demonstrate human nature in the face of horror/trauma/apocalypse.

Huge fan of both The Road (utterly horrifying) and Children of Men.


Came here to say just this. Agreed as to both. TWD was my fave show EVER. The Last of Us is becoming a fave as well. I freaking LOVE Pedro Pascal. I love the story. Everything. I also know, after watching both, I'd never survive either of these scenarios: No survival skills, no skills with weapons, I can't eat the rotten crap they eat (I'd starve), and I'd not be able to leave my pets behind (and the hound dogs would make enough noise to draw a horde to me on day 1). LOL.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2023 11:35     Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

I cried at the end of episode 5. I had a tough day and Sam reminds me of my own son (he's not deaf, but has some challenges while also having the most tender sweet side).

That ending was just too much for me. I sobbed like a baby. My wife was shocked.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 16:08     Subject: The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

The actor who plays Sam, Kevionn Woodard, is from PG County. He’s local.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 15:40     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?



Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.


Sam is still deaf so while he was facing the window he was unaware she was in the room until she came in his line of sight.


No - bc then the attack on the older couple doesn’t make sense. He became infected and sat on the bed for hours? Bc within 1-2 hours the head is infected per the signs.


Near the beginning of the series, there were signs up. If you paused and read them, it should how, if you were infected, it attacked you from head to toe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thelastofus/comments/109fnnq/poster_seen_at_hbo_premier_new_infection_details/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

I misremembered it. Clearly his leg bite would be 12-24 hours so he would have just turned.
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Post 02/13/2023 14:06     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


ITA that Pascal should be a much bigger star than he is. I think the cast thus far has been uniformly good. I am coming around to the idea that this isn't really a zombie show. It's more a show about the interpersonal journeys of the characters and the world that now exists around them.

It reminds me a lot of both The Road and Children of Men in that respect.


+1
Pedro Pascal is excellent and I had never really been aware of him before. I love that he’s also comedically gifted, as seen on SNL. And he is a beautiful man!!

The Walking Dead was never a show about zombies either - it was about the relationships of the humans living in that world. My husband had to convince me to watch that and that’s what he said that finally sold it. The zombies, in both TWD and The Last of Us, are just the backdrop to demonstrate human nature in the face of horror/trauma/apocalypse.

Huge fan of both The Road (utterly horrifying) and Children of Men.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 13:59     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?



Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.


I think maybe he was still in the process of “turning” and being deaf, he didn’t hear her.
DP
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Post 02/13/2023 12:40     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

Anonymous wrote:Was talking to friends about this show last night. They had all watched a couple episodes before determining it was too sad and/or scary to keep watching. I'm fairly sensitive so I'm actually surprised I'm the only one still watching. And it really is horribly sad. Episodes 3 and 4 were not very scary but the latest episode was extremely stressful and of course very tragic.

I think what is maintaining my interest is Pedro Pascal. It's really exciting to see him get this chance to play such a complex central character. I have been a fan of his for a while but I feel like before The Last of Us and Mandalorian, the biggest showcase he had was that short stint on Game of Thrones. Which was great, but only a handful of episodes. And while his character was really fun, he was written in such a shallow way, so there was less for him to do. And of course on the Mandalorian, he's in a helmet the entire time.

He's just crazy talented and it's actually bizarre to me that after working for decades and having bit parts in a bunch of TV shows and movies, he's only now getting something this meaty. But he's really good in it and I feel like he's getting a chance to really unfold this character over time, too. Bella Ramsey (who I also loved in GoT, again in a small but extremely memorable role) I was unsure about at first because of some of the choices she was making, but I've come around and like her portrayal as well -- I think it's more that it's unclear if I like Ellie or not, but I have come to believe that's the point.

But Pedro Pascal is really the selling point for me. He's just so good. I have to see it through to the end for that alone. Even though it's kind of hard to watch at times.


If you like Pedro Pascal- NARCOS! He played a great character in it.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 12:35     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?



Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.


Sam is still deaf so while he was facing the window he was unaware she was in the room until she came in his line of sight.


No - bc then the attack on the older couple doesn’t make sense. He became infected and sat on the bed for hours? Bc within 1-2 hours the head is infected per the signs.


What attack on what older couple? The neighbors at the beginning? Wasn't the elderly woman who was infected sitting in her chair for hours and hours before she attacked them? Hadn't she been exposed the day before (at the hospital downtown where others seemed to be getting exposed?).

Where are you getting that the head is infected within 1-2 hours? Also, wouldn't you assume some variation in development of symptoms and full infection, as with anything else? Certain bodies are more receptive to a virus, others might have some higher resistance that puts up more of a fight before being overcome. Human bodies are not completely identical.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 12:26     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?



Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.


Sam is still deaf so while he was facing the window he was unaware she was in the room until she came in his line of sight.


No - bc then the attack on the older couple doesn’t make sense. He became infected and sat on the bed for hours? Bc within 1-2 hours the head is infected per the signs.


It was a bite on the lower leg.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 12:21     Subject: Re:The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Why would Sam, as an infected, not attack those in the room immediately? Was he still in there, like he asked about? Or was it solely for dramatic effect that the director waits until Ellie is going up to him and is surprised?



Agree this made zero sense. She should have awakened to his attacking her.


Sam is still deaf so while he was facing the window he was unaware she was in the room until she came in his line of sight.


No - bc then the attack on the older couple doesn’t make sense. He became infected and sat on the bed for hours? Bc within 1-2 hours the head is infected per the signs.