Anonymous wrote:Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

To your first question; I read a long article of other cases, and yes, the owner of the gun that was used in a shooting where the shooter was a very young minor (several cases of 6 to 10 year olds in the recent years in the US) does usually get prosecuted in some way, but the punishments are usually very lenient, "misdemeanors", little more than a slap on the wrist, considering the outcome of either one other child dead or permanently disabled and the shooter often also damaged for life, especially if the victim was a sibling or a friend. I have seen prison sentences of around 6 months for the adult owners. There was one case in D.C. where the owner left his gun accessible and loaded, and one child shot another (everyone ages 4-9) and he walked callously past the child who was awake, but bleeding out to retrieve the dropped gun and dispose of it (never to be found!), never returned to the child, never called 911. Prior armed offense. He is getting out of jail this Spring after serving 9 months or so - and he is only serving this time because of illegal (repeated) possession, not because of his conduct before and after the shooting! The child in this case survived (permanently severely disabled) due to heroic efforts by EMS and top notch medical care in the nick of time. Lots of problems with the justice system, imo.

When I was young, we had lots of guns around. Even brought them to school with us, for the daily Varsity rifle team.

Difference is: we did not use them on each other.

The so called “availability of guns”is NOT the problem.

The problem is the rage and mental illness of kids today (like the teen girls who planned to stab a homeless man to death in Totronto. Then they met, and killed him).

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The kids are full of rage - younger and younger.

- rage fueled by social media and violent “first person shooter” video games.

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

Kids say things, even 6 year olds. Treating a threat from a 6 year old the same as a threat from a high school or middle school student is not the solution.

Do you have kids?

Yes, 6 year olds sometimes say things that can be terrifying. No, you don't treat a threat from a 6 year old the same as you would a 16 year old. At the same time, you don't ignore what 6 year olds say. You take them seriously. Kids of any age who threaten a teacher or bring in bullets need a psych eval, a behavior plan, a full time 1:1 aide and their backpacks searched daily. Kids who bring bullets to school have zero place in a gen ed setting. There are therapeutic schools where kids have to pass through metal detectors. Yes, even 5 and 6 year olds have to pass through metal detectors. For good reason.

That's crazy and not supported by anyone knowledgeable about child development. But a child with bullets in his backpack should result in an immediate call to DCF and a visit home. Kids put things in their backpacks. But kids should not have access to ammunition. Was the mother called about the bullets in the backpack? And she still didn't have the gun locked away safely? There is someone to blame here, but it's not a 6 year old. And I think there's blame to spread around -- not just to the mom but to every gun manufacturer and legislator that resists technological fixes that would make it more difficult for a 6 year old to fire someone's gun. My guess is that there's a lot of things going wrong in this kid's life. He may need a therapeutic school, but the fact that he put something in his backpack that he found in his home is not evidence of that.

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

Kids say things, even 6 year olds. Treating a threat from a 6 year old the same as a threat from a high school or middle school student is not the solution.

Do you have kids?

Yes, 6 year olds sometimes say things that can be terrifying. No, you don't treat a threat from a 6 year old the same as you would a 16 year old. At the same time, you don't ignore what 6 year olds say. You take them seriously. Kids of any age who threaten a teacher or bring in bullets need a psych eval, a behavior plan, a full time 1:1 aide and their backpacks searched daily. Kids who bring bullets to school have zero place in a gen ed setting. There are therapeutic schools where kids have to pass through metal detectors. Yes, even 5 and 6 year olds have to pass through metal detectors. For good reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

Kids say things, even 6 year olds. Treating a threat from a 6 year old the same as a threat from a high school or middle school student is not the solution.

Do you have kids?

NP. Ignoring or downplaying the threat also isn’t a solution.

Anonymous wrote:Has the governor issued a statement about this? I cannot find anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

Kids say things, even 6 year olds. Treating a threat from a 6 year old the same as a threat from a high school or middle school student is not the solution.

Do you have kids?

Not the previous poster, but the kid brought bullets to school the previous week. That seems like a credible threat to me. Where there are accessible bullets, there is probably an accessible gun.

Anonymous wrote:Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

Kids say things, even 6 year olds. Treating a threat from a 6 year old the same as a threat from a high school or middle school student is not the solution.

Do you have kids?

Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?

I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says.

Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.

And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!

If Sandy Hook didn’t spur a rethinking of guns in this country, nothing will.

Your pessimism is nihilistic and useless.

Yes, parents are now being charged. In Michigan, the parents were charged. Here, this seems a clear case to charge the parent.

Ok, that still doesn’t change anything. Do you think a wounded teacher will move the needle when classrooms full of dead kids didn’t?

Sadly, no. I’m sure the right wing talking point will be using this as an example of why teachers should be armed in the classroom.

So she could, what, shoot a 6 year old?

The GOP was fine with 20 6 year olds getting shot at Sandy Hook and 19 at Uvalde - I’m sure they’d have been fine with a teacher preemptively shooting a student (as long as the student met, uh, certain factors).

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Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.

And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!

2A 4ever!

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and whet it turns out the family are felons and not legal gun owners?

Well well well…how the turntables.

The child got the gun from his mother, who was a legal gun owner.

Now what? No straw man for you to attack this time!

DP.. most school shootings are committed by people who had access to guns that were purchased legally.

Like I said to MAGAs, it's 2A 4eva.

that’s not even remotely true. The vast majority of school shootings don’t get covered by the msm. They are the types democrats ignore . Though it wasn’t a school shooting , 3 killed in a mass shooting in Philly last night. Only local coverage.

? this has nothing to do with msm news coverage.

Can you prove that the vast majority of those shootings apparently not covered by msm were committed with illegally purchased guns?

They probably can because the definition of school shooting is so broad that a gang related shooting at 2:00 am on a Saturday outside of a school qualifies

They prove it with a link or citation. Don’t just make stuff up to fit your political narrative that the vast majority of school shootings aren’t covered by the media. Prove it.

Anonymous wrote:She's a hero, and I really hope this doesn't drive her and her fellow teachers out of teaching. I'm rather amazed that she survived a close range shot in the abdomen. Was there a report of what kind of gun?

9mm handgun. Shot went through her hand and then into her upper chest.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.

And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!

2A 4ever!

MAGA


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and whet it turns out the family are felons and not legal gun owners?

Well well well…how the turntables.

The child got the gun from his mother, who was a legal gun owner.

Now what? No straw man for you to attack this time!

DP.. most school shootings are committed by people who had access to guns that were purchased legally.

Like I said to MAGAs, it's 2A 4eva.

that’s not even remotely true. The vast majority of school shootings don’t get covered by the msm. They are the types democrats ignore . Though it wasn’t a school shooting , 3 killed in a mass shooting in Philly last night. Only local coverage.

? this has nothing to do with msm news coverage.

Can you prove that the vast majority of those shootings apparently not covered by msm were committed with illegally purchased guns?

They probably can because the definition of school shooting is so broad that a gang related shooting at 2:00 am on a Saturday outside of a school qualifies

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Anonymous wrote:The parents should be prosecuted.

And most importantly, when are we as a society going to believe the right to live is more important than gun rights?!

2A 4ever!

MAGA


/s

and whet it turns out the family are felons and not legal gun owners?

Well well well…how the turntables.

The child got the gun from his mother, who was a legal gun owner.

Now what? No straw man for you to attack this time!

DP.. most school shootings are committed by people who had access to guns that were purchased legally.

Like I said to MAGAs, it's 2A 4eva.

that’s not even remotely true. The vast majority of school shootings don’t get covered by the msm. They are the types democrats ignore . Though it wasn’t a school shooting , 3 killed in a mass shooting in Philly last night. Only local coverage.

? this has nothing to do with msm news coverage.

Can you prove that the vast majority of those shootings apparently not covered by msm were committed with illegally purchased guns?