McCarthy vs. House Freedom Caucus, with Jordan ostensibly backing McCarthy, is bunkers.

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Anonymous wrote:Realize this is uncharted territory, but what happens if it ends up being the same result a third time? Do they just keep voting? Or is there some next step after 3 or 4 rounds?

Last time this happened it went 9 rounds, so they'll keep going until they chip away at those 19 anti-voters, or until enough Democrats get sick of this and go home, shifting the majority low enough for McCarthy to win.

Why would the Democrats get sick of it? For them it's a comedy show. It's the Republicans who keep failing and being humiliated. I can see Republicans as far more likely to be demoralized by all of this.

Anonymous wrote:Do you think they would give Scalise a shot?

He is currently nominating McCarthy for the third round.

I think moving his stuff in the office was just no bueno

GOP clown show. And the Dems are enjoying the hell out of it. They even brought popcorn.

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1610316616679530497

One thing is clear in all of this - the GOP may have a majority of seats, but they DO NOT have a mandate to govern, they DO NOT have a mandate to push their agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a rumor they would put Tom Cole of Oklahoma on the third round. He's conservative but not as crazy as the rest of them.

"Hey I have an idea - let's put up someone that most Americans never even heard of!"

Most Americans are only passingly familiar with most Republican MOCs.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with John Kassick—moderate republics should join the dems and elect Jeffries. This crap show is a sign of what’s to come. So they should end this.

Or Fred Upton, or Liz Cheney...all they need over the next two years is to reauthorize spending, Ukraine and debt ceiling. The rest of it is noise.

The majority of the House Republicans don’t want to do that. They really have no interest in actually governing.

I think the majority of house republicans want to try to use their majority to showboat, hold hearings, etc. McCarthy would be happy to let them do that. But there are these 19 who actually think they can use the debt ceiling and government shutdowns to repeal Social Security, Medicare, and the rest of the "leviathan." The majority don't believe that because it is insane. (Many of them would like to repeal this stuff, but they realize this tactic is nuts). That's the fundamental disagreement here.

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Anonymous wrote:Realize this is uncharted territory, but what happens if it ends up being the same result a third time? Do they just keep voting? Or is there some next step after 3 or 4 rounds?

Last time this happened it went 9 rounds, so they'll keep going until they chip away at those 19 anti-voters, or until enough Democrats get sick of this and go home, shifting the majority low enough for McCarthy to win.

133 ballots in 1855.

and was the Kevin McCarthy of 1855 victorious?

Kevin is singularly vapid:

Anonymous wrote:There was a rumor they would put Tom Cole of Oklahoma on the third round. He's conservative but not as crazy as the rest of them.

"Hey I have an idea - let's put up someone that most Americans never even heard of!"

Anonymous wrote:There was a rumor they would put Tom Cole of Oklahoma on the third round. He's conservative but not as crazy as the rest of them.

Why would Cole want the Speakership? Herding rabid honey badgers isn’t a job for a normal human.

Go ahead and default on the debt ceiling now too

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Anonymous wrote:Realize this is uncharted territory, but what happens if it ends up being the same result a third time? Do they just keep voting? Or is there some next step after 3 or 4 rounds?

Last time this happened it went 9 rounds, so they'll keep going until they chip away at those 19 anti-voters, or until enough Democrats get sick of this and go home, shifting the majority low enough for McCarthy to win.

133 ballots in 1855.

and was the Kevin McCarthy of 1855 victorious?

There were a lot of contenders, so the situation is not analogous. It took them two months then. This shouldn't take as long.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with John Kassick—moderate republics should join the dems and elect Jeffries. This crap show is a sign of what’s to come. So they should end this.

Or Fred Upton, or Liz Cheney...all they need over the next two years is to reauthorize spending, Ukraine and debt ceiling. The rest of it is noise.

The majority of the House Republicans don’t want to do that. They really have no interest in actually governing.

There was a rumor they would put Tom Cole of Oklahoma on the third round. He's conservative but not as crazy as the rest of them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Realize this is uncharted territory, but what happens if it ends up being the same result a third time? Do they just keep voting? Or is there some next step after 3 or 4 rounds?

Last time this happened it went 9 rounds, so they'll keep going until they chip away at those 19 anti-voters, or until enough Democrats get sick of this and go home, shifting the majority low enough for McCarthy to win.

133 ballots in 1855.

and was the Kevin McCarthy of 1855 victorious?