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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Where did OP say say the kid did not talk to grandpa?? I didn’t see that.

I did see where she clearly wrote “my parents yelled at him”.

Maybe you should have read the whole post before fabricating your narrative.

OP stated that grandpa called HER to ask 8 year old to just stop. There is no reference in OPs post to grandpa ever talking to the kid.

So OP never wrote that the kid didn’t talk to the grandfather. You inferred that.

But OP did explicitly write “my parents yelled at him”.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

I’m just going by what OP wrote instead of making stuff up.

Right, like a conversation between DS and Grandpa which included yelling? No need to dig your heels in on that. OP included all the detailed conversations except that one. So you either have to conclude it never happened or imagine a conversation completely left out in the OP which this happened where OP mentioned just once with no support. Either way you're going beyond what's in the OP. The vast majority are concluding it never happened given OPs propensity to write long winded novels sparing no detail. Odd that she would leave out the precise details of when yelling occurred and what was said.

Yes, given the first post in which the OP obviously wanted to make clear she thinks her parents suck, there is no way she would have left out the details of conversations in which her awful parents actually yelled at her 8 year old.

She did include that detail. It’s in the OP.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

I’m just going by what OP wrote instead of making stuff up.

Right, like a conversation between DS and Grandpa which included yelling? No need to dig your heels in on that. OP included all the detailed conversations except that one. So you either have to conclude it never happened or imagine a conversation completely left out in the OP which this happened where OP mentioned just once with no support. Either way you're going beyond what's in the OP. The vast majority are concluding it never happened given OPs propensity to write long winded novels sparing no detail. Odd that she would leave out the precise details of when yelling occurred and what was said.

Yes, given the first post in which the OP obviously wanted to make clear she thinks her parents suck, there is no way she would have left out the details of conversations in which her awful parents actually yelled at her 8 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

I’m just going by what OP wrote instead of making stuff up.

Right, like a conversation between DS and Grandpa which included yelling? No need to dig your heels in on that. OP included all the detailed conversations except that one. So you either have to conclude it never happened or imagine a conversation completely left out in the OP which this happened where OP mentioned just once with no support. Either way you're going beyond what's in the OP. The vast majority are concluding it never happened given OPs propensity to write long winded novels sparing no detail. Odd that she would leave out the precise details of when yelling occurred and what was said.

Yes, given the first post in which the OP obviously wanted to make clear she thinks her parents suck, there is no way she would have left out the details of conversations in which her awful parents actually yelled at her 8 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

I’m just going by what OP wrote instead of making stuff up.

Right, like a conversation between DS and Grandpa which included yelling? No need to dig your heels in on that. OP included all the detailed conversations except that one. So you either have to conclude it never happened or imagine a conversation completely left out in the OP which this happened where OP mentioned just once with no support. Either way you're going beyond what's in the OP. The vast majority are concluding it never happened given OPs propensity to write long winded novels sparing no detail. Odd that she would leave out the precise details of when yelling occurred and what was said.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

I’m just going by what OP wrote instead of making stuff up.

Right, like a conversation between DS and Grandpa which included yelling? No need to dig your heels in on that. OP included all the detailed conversations except that one. So you either have to conclude it never happened or imagine a conversation completely left out in the OP which this happened where OP mentioned just once with no support. Either way you're going beyond what's in the OP. The vast majority are concluding it never happened given OPs propensity to write long winded novels sparing no detail. Odd that she would leave out the precise details of when yelling occurred and what was said.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Where did OP say say the kid did not talk to grandpa?? I didn’t see that.

I did see where she clearly wrote “my parents yelled at him”.

Maybe you should have read the whole post before fabricating your narrative.

OP stated that grandpa called HER to ask 8 year old to just stop. There is no reference in OPs post to grandpa ever talking to the kid.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

I’m just going by what OP wrote instead of making stuff up.

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Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Where did OP say say the kid did not talk to grandpa?? I didn’t see that.

I did see where she clearly wrote “my parents yelled at him”.

Maybe you should have read the whole post before fabricating your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Backstory: I have younger parents and my dad still works as a trial lawyer. My parents are scheduled to come to DC tomorrow to visit for the holidays for a week because my dad had a trial scheduled today (and they were upset we did not visit them in my hometown for Christmas and went on a trip with our immediate family). Due to Southwest canceling their flights and a text they sent me and my adult siblings, my DH found flights that were very affordable on a different airline to rebook and offered to use his points to give them first class flights to DC. The catch was one hour layover in a city where my brother lives. My parents suffer from FOMO (fear of missing out) and they are exceptionally petty. They booked their tickets after Christmas because my DH and I booked a ski trip to Utah the first week of winter break. Then my brother's flight was canceled due to the weather and they freaked out, not responding to our texts or calls for three days. My sister called them out on it and they claimed they were "too busy" to respond (these are people who text and call us incessantly at work).

This morning, my 8 year old son sent my mom texts that said (from son's name) and were clearly written by an 8 year old. He said that my DH had found tickets for them and offered to use his status and points. He said that the ticket prices were increasing. He asked my mom (or dad) to call me and DH. He then FaceTimed my mom two hours later, as he had the flight schedule on his tablet and saw the price changes. My mom was texting us all morning in a group text and separate texts plus my dad was sending group texts from when his flights were canceled until he called me from my mom's phone (he has never done that) to ask DS, age 8, to "just stop" and that he was not going to fly to DC unless he could fly to DCA only (DH found flights to Dulles and BWI, which we offered to pickup parents), unless the flight was allowing checked bags (my parent's airline had suggested only carryon and my parents NEVER check bags), unless my husband had found direct flights from their city to DCA at the same time as the flight he had prior. My DS is devastated. I took him to the playground and we are headed to the movies. But really? My mom claims she could not make a decision without my dad. My dad claims he needed to focus on his trial and not worry about flights. My parents both claim they didn't want to book flights until my 38 year old brother's flight was resheduled. My brother lives somewhere where all the flights are canceled this week. He wants to come here to see his nephews and is booking a flight Friday. He is also totally fine staying at my parents' alone or going to my aunt's down the street.

My mom is now saying she is going to cancel the trip altoghether, due to the weather and unpredictability of the flights, which I get. But my 8 year old called her from his Ipad and my mom gave him a long lecture about how we "already went on our vacation" and how "she isn't going to be able to make any flights that your dad (my DH) made for us as they are too expensive or have layovers." DH and I were going to pay for the flights. My parents are very well off and can definitely swing the $400 total round trip tickets and would take the free tickets using points. DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind".

I explained to DS that my parents should not have reacted to a child like that, but they have anxiety about traveling and are not savvy about prices going up and can't make quick decisions. They always think something better is going to come along and it prevents them from quick decision making. Now my mom is texting me and my sister pictures of her Christmas decorations, presents, sad memes, gifs, etc. And she's making us feel guilty for her flight being canceled (!). My sister and I called her and my dad out for making my 8 year old feel badly and she said "well he already got to go on a ski vacation. We paid for private school and worked really hard and never got to do that with you. Maybe you would have been better off just going to public school and having kids in HS so you would be more dependent on me." (this is something she frequently says.

My dad texted my sister, DH and I to "chill", his favorite word. He is big into mindfulness although he has the worst anger management issue ever, the mouth that curses incessantly and is super hyper active and anxious.

I could have told your sad tale of woe in a three sentence paragraph. Instead, one question:. What kind of idiot adult has their 8-year old son take over travel for grandparents?!

New poster. I do not see where OP or any adult had the child "take over travel" arrangements. Nowhere does OP say that she or any other adult put the kid up to doing this, instructed him to do it, told him to text the grandparents, etc. I think that is getting projected into her post by the readers.

OP--am I correct? No one, not you or DH or any other adult, egged on or told your child to make his own separate contact about travel plans?

If not: I'm team OP and son.

Grandpa the lawyer: The people posting to rage about the fact grandpa was doing at trial: So freaking what? He can mute anyone he likes. OP notes he's all about "wellness" anyway and his whole reaction to this was not the anger that PPs here are feeling on his behalf -- he just told everyone to "chill." (How...useful. Not.) So grandad's trial is not the big honking thing re: travel that some PPs want it to be. .Not to grandpa, at least, though some lawyer PPs here are sure projecting their own trial stress onto "chill" grandpa.

Grandma is the issue here. Again, PPs are defending her. But OP clearly says her mom is, to summarize in my own term, a pill. Here's why: The issue is NOT he terrible weather, or the weather-related flight cancellations etc., people. The issue isn't even the child contacting grandma.

READ OP's post with care: Mom is pouting and pi$$y about the fact OP's family took a trip of their own (without these grandparents) at the start of this winter break.

That is the root of grandma's and grandpa's insistence that they'll ONLY travel to one of the area's three airports, they MUST have checked baggage despite what airlines are saying. That's what's behind the ugly treatment of OP's DH who is the one who did all the legwork to find new tickets (and who is getting zero credit for that effort as far as I can see).

Grandma even turned this whole thing into All About Her and did the ultimate bad faith thing: She dredged up the past and dredged up money issues: OP quotes her as saying, "We paid for private school and worked really hard and never got to do that with you. Maybe you would have been better off just going to public school and having kids in HS so you would be more dependent on me."

DCUM normally would have a screaming fit at that statement as pure toxic (grand)parenting, but for some bizarre reason is letting it slide and focusing instead on the kid's role here, not on grandma's crystal clear control and entitlement issues. Sure, the boy should not have texted or contacted an adult like he did; OP, you need to talk to him about how issues like plane tickets and travel plans were not something to get involved in, though you know he meant it as a way of indicating he wants the grandparents to come visit. But he should not do this again.

Then, OP, in your shoes, I'd tell mom and dad, sorry but we've expended all the time and energy we can on this trip and since the airports and travel arrangements don't suit you, we won't see you this holiday, but maybe we can all visit in the spring when there is better weather for flying and less stress around the holidays.

In short, I wouldn't even WANT to see them after all this drama. Your son did ramp up the drama but unless he was instructed or encouraged to contact them by an adult -- he did not do so out of any intent to add to the problems and I would give him a talk about not texting anyone on your devices or on his own, and let it go. OP, if you're not already, get some counseling for you as the adult daughter, to detach more from your parents, especially your mom who guilts you and tosses your upbringing into your face. Learn not to let their FOMO and jealousy that you take trips with your own family affect you. I really would reduce the amount of time spent with them if your mom says things like you recount.

And OP please ignore all the "you are terrible parents" crap on this thread; those are PPs focused only on your kid's mistake in contacting them and trying to "help." The real issue is your picky, huffy, self-centered, demanding, jealous, inflexible parents. I'd take off now for another family vacation somewhere, as soon as I told mom and dad, no trip, maybe see you in the spring or summer.

No, we’re not going to read your diatribe, or OP’s. Be succinct or don’t bother posting.

I’m assuming that was OP sock puppetting.

Both you and that PP are wrong. Not OP, whether you want to believe it or not. Just sick of the many posts here -- really, typical of DCUM generally -- where no one bothers to read posts with any care and PPs leap in to project their own issues that aren't relevant.

So neither of you PPs wants to admit that you didn't notice, or just didn't care, that OP didn't set up her son to "manipulate" grandma? No? That doesn't fit your personal narratives, I guess.

And if "we're not going to read your diatribe" PP thinks that was oh, so cutting....Wow, I'm wounded to the quick by your pithy zinger! Why are you even on the thread if you don't care to read the OP's story or other posters' opinions? Just so you can complain about post lengths. Certainly not so you can offer any genuine, useful thoughts.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?

Quoting the OP - in her own words - is not misrepresenting anything. It’s not my fault that you didn’t read the whole post.

They were all talking to each other over text and FaceTime. OP said they yelled. If you don’t believe her then why engage on this thread.

Nope, even taking the OPs words in that one line verbatim it wasn’t that they yelled generally, it was that they “yelled at him” meaning the kid. The kid never talked to grandpa, so grandpa couldn’t have yelled at him.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no scenario where it was ok for the grandparents to yell at an 8yo who was trying to help.

Good thing that never happened here.

That is exactly what happened.

Are you OP? Care to describe at what point yelling actually occurred?

OP said they yelled at the kid. If you don’t believe her then why bother engaging on this thread?

Oh. Are you one of those insecure posters who just attacks the OP for fun? Gross.

OP did not say yelling occurred. She said her dad called HER and asked the kid to just stop. Kid called grandma and grandma “lectured “ him. OPs 8 year old described his grandparent “yelling” at him, but there is nothing in the post that demonstrates the grandparents actually yelled at the kid.

For all the DCUMers who misuse the world gaslighting, this poster is actually gaslighting. They are deliberately misrepresenting/lying about OPs post to get a reaction.

Clearly, you don’t know the definition either.

It’s not “misrepresenting” or “lying” when I actually quoted the OP.
“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". ”

You are absolutely purposely misrepresenting and providing the one and only line in the whole post where the word “yelling” was used without the context. No where in the post was it said the the kid ever talked to grandpa, so how could grandpa have “yelled” at him?

WTF? I literally quoted the OP.

“DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind". “

Yup, and you took the one line that used the word “yelled” without the context of the rest of the novel
OP (or you) wrote. You still haven’t addressed the point made several times that the kid never talked to grandpa, so how could he have “yelled” at the kid? And knowing that grandpa never spoke to the kid, it makes the throwaway line that “my parents yelled at him” worthless because we know that can’t be true since the kid never talked to grandpa. See how that works?