Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 14:13     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:Me too.

Yesterday my food order didn’t get delivered because I the order was small and I picked 15% tip.

If I order DoorDash, my food costs $20 while tips and fees cost another $40. So when they go out if business, that’s why.


So stop ordering Door Dash. Why is this a problem? I’ve never ordered from there. But to do it and complain that the added costs are more than the order, and then to KEEP doing it? You’re contributing to those absurd practices.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 11:39     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP your post makes some sense, but not everyone has the luxury of finding a better job.

Waiting tables may be the only job a college student is able to work at if the student has day classes, etc.

But yes - ALL employers should pay a living wage to its employees.

At the very least > minimum wage.


But OP's point is not that waiters shouldn't get tipped, rather that it's ridiculous to now be asked to tip on every single purchase-coffee, bagels to go, fast food...
And, yes, I'm in agreement that this practice is insane. I just press '0' tip. Why do others feel the pressure to tip just because the screen suggests it?! Common sense people!



I agree with you except it’s not “just common sense”. They are manipulating emotions and taking advantage of our natural inclination to be kind. The person is looking right at you while they turn turn the screen. For most of us, pressing $0 feels terrible. But we also realize it’s not our responsibility to pay the employees a better wage, it’s the company’s (who, by the way, are making record profits.) Everyone has their hand out for a little extra and it’s wrong.

And to clarify because some people keeping missing this: we are not talking about waitstaff who make $2.15 an hour. I tip them generously and it seems like most here do.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 07:33     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Yeah, I agree. I didn’t sign up to make you wages higher when I decided to buy a meal at a restaurant or order a coffee. That’s not my responsibility.

I’ve reduced situations where I have to tip.

I don’t tip our pet sitter.
I don’t tip when I buy something at a counter.
I don’t tip when they carry my groceries out of a store. I’m already paying extra for them via Instacart.
I don’t order Doordash type deliveries.
I stopped ordering groceries to be delivered to my house.
We try not to eat out.
I almost never use Uber.

So in general, I’m not contributing to the tip culture.

I do give Christmas cash gifts to teachers, cleaning people and coaches and consider it kind of tipping.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRqALrUj/
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 07:17     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Me too.

Yesterday my food order didn’t get delivered because I the order was small and I picked 15% tip.

If I order DoorDash, my food costs $20 while tips and fees cost another $40. So when they go out if business, that’s why.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 06:33     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is so annoying about tipping is that shaming underlies the whole culture. The flip screen, the judgment all of that. Trying to coerce people using some faux morality. It's obnoxious.

Look at the language used by all of the "do gooders" in this thread, as if they're better people b/c they want to do corporate's bidding. SMH.


+1000

It's a rather brilliant grift and people get to be high on their own self-importance because of it.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 06:31     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:OP your post makes some sense, but not everyone has the luxury of finding a better job.

Waiting tables may be the only job a college student is able to work at if the student has day classes, etc.

But yes - ALL employers should pay a living wage to its employees.

At the very least > minimum wage.


But OP's point is not that waiters shouldn't get tipped, rather that it's ridiculous to now be asked to tip on every single purchase-coffee, bagels to go, fast food...
And, yes, I'm in agreement that this practice is insane. I just press '0' tip. Why do others feel the pressure to tip just because the screen suggests it?! Common sense people!
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 06:31     Subject: I'm done with tipping
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


Does McDonald’s not ask for/allow tips? Why should Panera and Starbucks employees be tippable, but not McDonald’s?


I’m revising my advice—stay home and eat Cup o’ Noodles. That sounds like your speed.


Logically explain why a bellhop gets tips while a worker at McDonald's, chick FIL a, or chipotle doesn't


Because the bellhop is providing a service so you don’t have to do it yourself. Just as a server takes your order, customizing it if asked, brings your drink, bring your meal, refills your drink so you don’t have to wait on or cleanup after yourself.

A fast food worker hits some keys on a register, you get your own drink, carry your meal to the table, clean off your table and throw away your own trash. So you think the McDonalds guy should get a tip for all of that?


Bellhops may be legally classified as a tipped service - which means their minimum wage is something like $3 an hour. Fast food workers are not. They should get the higher minimum wage.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 06:15     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Why is being cheap not considered a virtue?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 02:46     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone that has a beef with tipping is most likely salty because they don’t get tips themselves. Sour grapes and all. If wages were raised enough that tips were not a factor most of you would be up in arms.


They don’t have to raise prices. They have to spend their money differently. The CEO of Panera makes $3 million a year. The CEO of Starbucks makes $17 million a year. Why are we responsible for paying their staff a decent wage? Why are you protecting the super wealthy and insulting middle class people?


Why are you dining and ordering out at places you can’t afford? Stick to McDonalds if you can’t tip.


Does McDonald’s not ask for/allow tips? Why should Panera and Starbucks employees be tippable, but not McDonald’s?


I’m revising my advice—stay home and eat Cup o’ Noodles. That sounds like your speed.


Logically explain why a bellhop gets tips while a worker at McDonald's, chick FIL a, or chipotle doesn't


Because the bellhop is providing a service so you don’t have to do it yourself. Just as a server takes your order, customizing it if asked, brings your drink, bring your meal, refills your drink so you don’t have to wait on or cleanup after yourself.

A fast food worker hits some keys on a register, you get your own drink, carry your meal to the table, clean off your table and throw away your own trash. So you think the McDonalds guy should get a tip for all of that?
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 02:28     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:Sort of off topic but would love anyone's opinion.

a waiter revised my receipt and tipped $10 (instead of $4) on a twenty dollar ticket. I checked my credit card history compared to my receipt.

My sister was aghast that I wanted to report it. She said I'd get the waiter fired.

I don't care about the money but that is so screwed up!


I just saw on my local Reddit a guy who’s card activity showed more was charged than he paid when he and his friends were watching the World Cup at a bar over several nights. He took it in to the manager, and they repaid it. Why? Because he always takes a picture of the completed receipt at a restaurants showing the amount of his tip and the total. The printout always has the restaurant name and date on it.

I think I may start doing this.
Anonymous
Post 12/22/2022 02:20     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The last time I picked up pizza, cashier swiveled the payment screen. I hit zero for tip. I was watching him. His lips tightened.

Seriously? I'm not going back because I'm afraid they're going to spit on my food or something, since I didn't give the cashier a tip.


Oh please. You’re paranoid. No one’s “lips tightened.”


Uh, yes. You can tell when they’re unhappy. I recently went to a festival that had food available (not food trucks). It took her 3 seconds to put a cookie on a paper plate and hand me a jar of iced tea. When I hit no tip, she looked at me like I had three heads.

On the other hand, when Panara started adding a tip on their screen, the one I regularly went to for coffee or tea would whisper an apology that you have it hit no tip before the payment goes thru. Not any more. They often look annoyed that I don’t tip them for hitting a button on the register three times when I order.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2022 21:38     Subject: Re:I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is so annoying about tipping is that shaming underlies the whole culture. The flip screen, the judgment all of that. Trying to coerce people using some faux morality. It's obnoxious.

Look at the language used by all of the "do gooders" in this thread, as if they're better people b/c they want to do corporate's bidding. SMH.


In my experience, the flip screen is not judgmental. I've seen people walk away or be super careful to tell you it's totally optional, and some even push the button right through it because they didn't want them.

It's the garbage men, mail carriers and yes, furniture delivery people we need to tip that people forget. These are physical jobs and these people only have their bodies until even their bodies wear out. Please do not forget them.


No way I'm tipping government workers. WTF?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2022 20:10     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:I don't see what the big deal is. When the screen rotates to me to add a tip, I hit no tip and move on.

They don't see if I've tipped or not. It's already processed through by then.

If I'm seated inside to eat, I always tip 20%. If I do takeout, I usually do 10-15% depending on the place. Is it Chipotle? No, you're not getting a tip. Is it my local pizza joint? Sure, 10-15% depending on what I ordered.

I never tip my delivery people in cash/gift cards because my delivery people rotate all the time. I never have the same postal delivery worker for more than a month! On very hot days in summer, I leave cold beverages and snacks out. During December, I leave snacks out and sometimes do a carafe of coffee or hot chocolate. That's it.

I tip my hair stylist. I don't get my nails done. I never tip for furniture or appliance delivery. I never tip when picking up groceries either. I tried to tip at Target once on an evening when it was a horrible, horrible downpour and I had a sick kid in the car but the woman said tips weren't allowed.


Chipotle is exactly like your local pizza place, in that a worker makes your specific food to order with your requested toppings. This is an argument that tipping makes no sense.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2022 20:08     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:Serious question does religion play a role? My Jewish dry cleaner and my Indian coffee guy did not decorate Xmas or nothing.

But my Italian Bakery and Spanish Gardner or Irish pub they actually celebrate Xmas, say Merry Christmas and decorate if they have a business.

Somehow my orthodox dry cleaner does not inspire Christmas tips



WTF? Apparently it plays a role for you because you only tip Christians?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2022 19:59     Subject: I'm done with tipping
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with OP. Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food, I can drive a taxi, I can and do cut my own hair. I did, however, tip my urologist. Because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.


Also....

Through concentration, I can raise and lower my cholesterol at will.