Anonymous
09/17/2023 12:31
Subject: Re:VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it easier to ED to Pamplin than the engineering school?
Without checking, I’d say of course it is because anything is easier to get into that engineering.
VT's data tool doesn't break out admit rates by ED vs EA vs Regular but overall, Pamplin and Engineering are similar in admit rate -- 55% for engineering, 53% for Business. Narrowing it down to in-state, not URM: Business = 35%, Engineering = 39%.
https://udc.vt.edu/irdata/data/students/admission/index#college
Am I misreading this? Why is the in-state admit rate lower than the overall admit rate for these majors?
Because the in-state yield is a lot higher, i.e. more of those in-state students will actually take the offer. You have to admit a lot more OOS students to hit the target.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 12:20
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Only one friend got in who had lower scores but first time college family.
Increasing first gen students at the school is an institutional priority for VT, so it very well could have tipped the balance here.
(NP)
Absolutely. They have a stated goal of 40% URM and first generation.
+1. The President has said this several times. Google it
The same people keep repeating this, ad nauseum. We know. However, you're forgetting about the other 60+% of students who are accepted. Stop making excuses.
No excuses. This is a fact. The president of them only polytechnic university in the state wants 40 percent URM and first generation. The population of the state is not 40 percent URM. That is called social engineering. Many question if that is the proper role of the only public polytechnic. Read Chrinicke if Higher Education before casting aspirations. This is called a newsworthy issue so open to decays. Stop shutting down those who actually know what is going on.
Well on average about 1/3 of US students applying to college are first generation, and about 35% of high school aged students in Virginia are URM, though there are overlap of some of those groups, there are a significant portion of white first generation students -- esp from rural areas, so 40% is less than reality not above it.
I'm not sure Virginia Tech is doing anything different with URM and first years compared to other schools in the state. I think it is just the messaging from the President.
They are. Or they are doing it more successfully WM is 72% white or Asian. Plus a decent number of foreign students (St Andrew’s Program, so wealthy British kids) and multi ethnic that are white and or Asian. And no way first Gen/Pell grants are high enough to get the URM number below 70%
https://www.wm.edu/admission/undtergraduateadmission/facts-figures/class-profile/
Anonymous
09/17/2023 12:11
Subject: Re:VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it easier to ED to Pamplin than the engineering school?
Without checking, I’d say of course it is because anything is easier to get into that engineering.
VT's data tool doesn't break out admit rates by ED vs EA vs Regular but overall, Pamplin and Engineering are similar in admit rate -- 55% for engineering, 53% for Business. Narrowing it down to in-state, not URM: Business = 35%, Engineering = 39%.
https://udc.vt.edu/irdata/data/students/admission/index#college
Am I misreading this? Why is the in-state admit rate lower than the overall admit rate for these majors?
May, many more in state applications. Many of those applications are NOVA white and Asian— so not diverse. May be more likely to be less strong because every engineering kid wants a shot at VT. Paying OOS tuition is a different matter.
Anonymous
09/17/2023 12:04
Subject: Re:VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it easier to ED to Pamplin than the engineering school?
Without checking, I’d say of course it is because anything is easier to get into that engineering.
VT's data tool doesn't break out admit rates by ED vs EA vs Regular but overall, Pamplin and Engineering are similar in admit rate -- 55% for engineering, 53% for Business. Narrowing it down to in-state, not URM: Business = 35%, Engineering = 39%.
https://udc.vt.edu/irdata/data/students/admission/index#college
Am I misreading this? Why is the in-state admit rate lower than the overall admit rate for these majors?
Anonymous
04/14/2023 07:55
Subject: Re:VA Tech ED - results
Any stats on girl ED success rate v boys especially for engineering or business?
Anonymous
04/14/2023 07:43
Subject: Re:VA Tech ED - results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it easier to ED to Pamplin than the engineering school?
Without checking, I’d say of course it is because anything is easier to get into that engineering.
VT's data tool doesn't break out admit rates by ED vs EA vs Regular but overall, Pamplin and Engineering are similar in admit rate -- 55% for engineering, 53% for Business. Narrowing it down to in-state, not URM: Business = 35%, Engineering = 39%.
https://udc.vt.edu/irdata/data/students/admission/index#college
Interesting. I’ve heard so much griping about how hard VT engineering admissions have been — and I’ve never heard Pamplin complaints (my source being mostly DCUM)
I wonder if business is just more predictable? That is, high stats kids consistently get in. Engineering seems really hard to predict, some high stats admitted, others rejected and it's impossible to predict which way it will go for any particular student
Anonymous
04/14/2023 01:23
Subject: VA Tech ED - results
[b]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Only one friend got in who had lower scores but first time college family.
Increasing first gen students at the school is an institutional priority for VT, so it very well could have tipped the balance here.
(NP)
President Tim Sands has been publicly pushing for more minority students and URM students since 2016. He hit the 40 percent he wanted last year. Google Tim Sands diversity, URM, and you will find it.