Anonymous wrote:They go out all night and don’t get good sleep and complain they are tired. Or there is an inconvenience for a night and two. Try not getting a good night sleep for YEARS due to having young kids. I have had a decade of bad sleep.

Anyone else get annoyed about this?

I’m sure I was sometimes tired when I was childfree.

Because you are overly entitled. Having a kid is a challenge, but it is not adversity. Did you ever think childfree people might also be caring for ailing relatives and/or dealing with personal medical issues, can't have kids, or had repeat stillbirths? Seriously get over yourself. You shouldn't have had a kid

Even grandparents taking care of your children is tiresome but you chose to leave it to your poor mom so you can go exercise at the gym

OP should watch her words and be considerate towards other people's feelings.

People makes choices for their lifestyles. Any change can turn out tiresome.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only read a few pages of this, but enough to see that OP is getting dragged over the coals.

I’m here to say that I totally get it, OP! I think I find it slightly annoying because they have way more flexibility and opportunity to address the tiredness. I’ll admit, I’m jealous of that! I am looking forward to the days when I have more freedom and flexibility again.

Everyone is allowed their feelings. OP can be annoyed by childless people complaining about how tired they are, and others can be annoyed if OP says she is tired (they may very well be thinking that perhaps OP should have thought about this before having kids).

Wrong. No one was annoyed at her for being tired. OP was rude and heartless towards childfree people. Assuming we don't get tired just like you.
OP was putting down childfree people. She did that. We responded and she didn't like it.

Tell her that, not us.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve only read a few pages of this, but enough to see that OP is getting dragged over the coals.

I’m here to say that I totally get it, OP! I think I find it slightly annoying because they have way more flexibility and opportunity to address the tiredness. I’ll admit, I’m jealous of that! I am looking forward to the days when I have more freedom and flexibility again.

Everyone is allowed their feelings. OP can be annoyed by childless people complaining about how tired they are, and others can be annoyed if OP says she is tired (they may very well be thinking that perhaps OP should have thought about this before having kids).

So you agree, everyone is allowed to feel tired, and it's not the sole purview of martyr mommies who chose their choice.

I’ve only read a few pages of this, but enough to see that OP is getting dragged over the coals.

I’m here to say that I totally get it, OP! I think I find it slightly annoying because they have way more flexibility and opportunity to address the tiredness. I’ll admit, I’m jealous of that! I am looking forward to the days when I have more freedom and flexibility again.

Everyone is allowed their feelings. OP can be annoyed by childless people complaining about how tired they are, and others can be annoyed if OP says she is tired (they may very well be thinking that perhaps OP should have thought about this before having kids).

There are a myriad of reasons for being tired and it doesn't just belong to mothers. There are people who naturally have low energy, people with diabetes, fibromyalgia, or some other illness. Those with depression. People who exercise a lot, travel, people who work hard, people who don't get enough sleep, had a jam packed day or week, etc. Some people have obligations such as taking care of an elderly relative. Sometimes people are just used to saying they're busy. Every human being gets tired.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a nasty thread. Sorry you are so tired OP, and sorry you couldn’t even vent on a parenting site without attracting such negativity. This thread and the one about switching seats on a plane for families who separated….man a lot of negative “you close to have kids” takes.

If OP had merely said that she was tired, she’d have gotten much more support. But she chose to lash out at others and put herself in a position of superiority. We’re calling her out on it. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.

DP - the OP isn’t dishing anything out, since she’s not telling people without kids IRL how annoying they are. She’s venting on an anonymous *parenting* website, FFS. Who lurks on parenting websites for the purpose of snapping at parents?

OP here. I have not been back for a while. I’m really surprised how many people are offended that I was annoyed at a coworker for being tired for partying.

Hope everyone had a happy thanksgiving. There are some angry unhappy people on here.

Found the mirror, did you?

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Anonymous wrote:I roll by eyes internally for sure and nod.

I used to think I was tired too.

International travel? Night out? Big work project?

At the end of it, you can sleep sleep sleep and recover.

You can't fathom life with kids till you're in it.

Well. I knew before getting pregnant that pregnancy was not fun and that giving birth hurt like hell. I also knew that being a parent was no.bed of roses and that there were sacrifices. Too bad so many of you were so stupid.

You seem illiterate. No one said they assumed it was a "bed of roses."

It is just a different level of tiredness etc than being childfree. Not sure why ppl seem to be disagreeing?

My very good friend is childless by choice. Currently, her mother is undergoing chemo and radiation for cancer and is not expected to see another holiday season after this one. Her father has late stage Alzheimer’s and is in an assisted living facility alone. She works a full-time job and has other commitments outside her family but she is spending most of her time driving from NC where she lives to MD where they live and also traveling for work. She’s exhausted not only by the time spent awake but by the mental toll all of this is taking on her. She is far, far more tired these days than I am with two young kids. People who can’t comprehend that are shockingly myopic.

I don't have kids because I couldn't, partially because of the medical condition I have that also makes me tired.

Other people can be tired, whether they have kids are not.

Anonymous wrote:They go out all night and don’t get good sleep and complain they are tired. Or there is an inconvenience for a night and two. Try not getting a good night sleep for YEARS due to having young kids. I have had a decade of bad sleep.

Anyone else get annoyed about this?

I’m sure I was sometimes tired when I was childfree.

I think that you have hemorrhoids, IBS and diverticulitis. I think that is why you are finding it annoying. My suggestion is copious amounts of aloe vera juice taken from both ends.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when people without kids complain about the costs to board their pets when they travel. I wish I could board my kids for a few days or hire a neighbor to come and walk them a couple times a day while we go to Europe. Unfortunately, the answer for us is we just can't go to Europe unless we bring the kids.

Op here. I had a coworker who told me his puppy was harder than having a newborn.

We adopted a dog who ended up having severe bowel issues. We spent over $10,000 on vet bills trying to get him better but it was exhausting cleaning up after him every morning. (Yes, he wore diapers, yes he was crated). I also have twins and my husband stayed at home with me for the first four weeks and then we had a full-time nanny who started part-time before I went back to work. Honestly, with the twins at least I had days where I could catch a break. With the dog it was months and months of the same thing. Think a sick kid that never gets better. So yeah, my puppy was harder than my newborns.

The only people who ever annoy me are those who complain about their animals waking/keeping them up on a regular basis because they sleep with them. I’ve always had dogs but they don’t sleep in our bed/room. Otherwise, everyone is entitled to be tired, regardless of whether they have children or not. You sound annoying. Much more annoying than tired childless people.
- Mom of twins

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a nasty thread. Sorry you are so tired OP, and sorry you couldn’t even vent on a parenting site without attracting such negativity. This thread and the one about switching seats on a plane for families who separated….man a lot of negative “you close to have kids” takes.

If OP had merely said that she was tired, she’d have gotten much more support. But she chose to lash out at others and put herself in a position of superiority. We’re calling her out on it. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.

DP - the OP isn’t dishing anything out, since she’s not telling people without kids IRL how annoying they are. She’s venting on an anonymous *parenting* website, FFS. Who lurks on parenting websites for the purpose of snapping at parents?

OP here. I have not been back for a while. I’m really surprised how many people are offended that I was annoyed at a coworker for being tired for partying.

Hope everyone had a happy thanksgiving. There are some angry unhappy people on here.

You being one of them.

And tired of hearing OP being the only one that can be tired. Poor kids