Anonymous
11/24/2022 18:31
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg the shooter’s father was relived his son wasn’t gay when he found out about the shooting. WTF?! Father of the year! /s
The shooter comes from a completely trash family. I suspect he was gay and couldn’t handle it. The fact that you have posted his family is Mormon, say no more. My sister is Mormon. I grew up around Mormon kids out West. They are absolutely anti-gay! I don’t care if the head of the church says they aren’t. The members are the absolutely the meanest people I have been around. Mormons and Westboro Baptist Church who protested a place I was at.. both are very similar.
You can suspect all you want, but mental health issues as a result of a broken home, especially one with a drug-addicted porn involved father, are well-documented. He was clearly a troubled young man, based on his previous encounter with law enforcement. His mother was all over Facebook asking for good mental health counselors for her son. Sounds more to me like he deliberately picked on a group that would give him the most media attention. Had he opened fire at a Trump rally or country music concert, it would not be the ‘cause du jour’.
People on DCUM have a habit of making up motives, especially when the perpetrator gives a motive they don’t like.
But he didn’t shoot his father or people like his father. He shot people at a drag show in part because influential people have been saying it is fine target that group. That is what delusional people do. They look for justification to target their hatred. They are scared shitless of people in power so they target innocent soft targets like school children, church ladies, or LGBTQ club patrons.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 15:27
Subject: Re:Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:This doughy loser got wrecked.
Oof, that head. Nobody held him as a baby. Explains a lot.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 13:13
Subject: Re:Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
This doughy loser got wrecked.
Anonymous
Anonymous
11/24/2022 10:10
Subject: Re:Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Accused shooter in court seems heavily medicated or otherwise not quite compos mentis:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-club-q-shooting-suspect-makes-first-virtual-court-appearance-held-without-bail
These people need NOT to be put on TV and given publicity. This is what they want.
It is unclear that the person in the video could form a coherent want.
I think they are faking it.
Seeing things like this makes me wish for a harsher criminal justice system for violent offenders.
He was beaten on the head with a handgun by the man who took him down.
That was just a good guy without a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. That was to stop shooting in the moment and save lives.
PP is referring to the legal consequences. Beating people in the head with a gun shouldn’t be a possible sentence handed down by the courts, but if that is what it takes for unarmed bystanders to stop an active shooter, that’s fine with me. I’d also like to point out that gun owners are frequently disarmed and have their guns used against them, so here’s a layered example of how guns don’t make people safer. Also, if you don’t want someone to take your gun away from you and beat you in the head with it, maybe you shouldn’t go shoot up a club, and if you do go shoot up a club, maybe you shouldn’t wear body armor that only leaves your head exposed so that’s the only place someone can beat you with your gun after they disarm you.
PP, are you pointing out that the guy was injured to suggest he already had a tough enough punishment? If so, f you. If not, what was your point?
I was responding to posts regarding the killer's demeanor at the preliminary hearing. The killer probably seemed drugged and incoherent because he had been beaten senseless on the back of the head by Richard Fierro, a bona fide hero who saved innumerable lives.
Hopefully the killer will recover so he may receive justice.
(BTW as the parent of a nonbinary adult child, I refuse to indulge the killer's trolling. He, and anyone else who thinks this is funny, can laugh about it all the way to hell.)
Anonymous
11/24/2022 09:10
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No doubt. He is a drug addict and former MMA fighter - as well as a porn "star." I don't think he was a presence in his son's life. I don't even know what the point of interviewing him was.
According to court documents filed in Bexar County, Texas, the name change was requested because Aldrich, who was turning 16, "wishes to protect himself and his future from any connections to birth father and his criminal history. Father has had no contact with minor for several years." The filing was first reported by The Washington Post.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tumultuous-surrounds-suspect-colorado-springs-club-q-shooting-rcna58603
Can you be a porn star and an active LDS member? (Serious question here for LDS people.)
I'm not a Mormon but I am familiar with their practices. You can lose your temple recommend for fairly minor issues like divorce or failure to tithe. You can be excommunicated for something like porn. However, you would still be allowed to attend church and attempt redemption in most cases.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 09:03
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The Mormon church publicly stated otherwise. Their records show him as being inactive for over a decade.
But they planted the seed of hate. Mormons hate LGBTQ+ deeply. They’ve preached hatred and intolerance for years.
You're stretching really hard to pin this on LDS. There are much more plausible influences in the shooter's life that may have inspired the violence. LDS may not be progressive but they tend to be nonviolent. Disagreeing with gay marriage may not be an enlightened stance, but it was one held by the majority of democrats as recently as 2008. So, to the extent that they are, like most mainstream religions, opposed to homosexuality, it's a huge stretch to relate this shooting to them.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 08:31
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Omg the shooter’s father was relived his son wasn’t gay when he found out about the shooting. WTF?! Father of the year! /s
The shooter comes from a completely trash family. I suspect he was gay and couldn’t handle it. The fact that you have posted his family is Mormon, say no more. My sister is Mormon. I grew up around Mormon kids out West. They are absolutely anti-gay! I don’t care if the head of the church says they aren’t. The members are the absolutely the meanest people I have been around. Mormons and Westboro Baptist Church who protested a place I was at.. both are very similar.
You can suspect all you want, but mental health issues as a result of a broken home, especially one with a drug-addicted porn involved father, are well-documented. He was clearly a troubled young man, based on his previous encounter with law enforcement. His mother was all over Facebook asking for good mental health counselors for her son. Sounds more to me like he deliberately picked on a group that would give him the most media attention. Had he opened fire at a Trump rally or country music concert, it would not be the ‘cause du jour’.
People on DCUM have a habit of making up motives, especially when the perpetrator gives a motive they don’t like.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 07:55
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The Mormon church publicly stated otherwise. Their records show him as being inactive for over a decade.
But they planted the seed of hate. Mormons hate LGBTQ+ deeply. They’ve preached hatred and intolerance for years.
I personally know pro LGBTQ+ Mormons. Not all Mormons are this way. Not all Christians are this way.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 07:54
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:Omg the shooter’s father was relived his son wasn’t gay when he found out about the shooting. WTF?! Father of the year! /s
The shooter comes from a completely trash family. I suspect he was gay and couldn’t handle it. The fact that you have posted his family is Mormon, say no more. My sister is Mormon. I grew up around Mormon kids out West. They are absolutely anti-gay! I don’t care if the head of the church says they aren’t. The members are the absolutely the meanest people I have been around. Mormons and Westboro Baptist Church who protested a place I was at.. both are very similar.
Depends on your experience, we have Mormon relatives in our family, Mormon coworkers, Mormon friends, and they are the kindest, most tolerant folks I know. The Mormons in our family are solidly blue politically speaking and have a family member who is gay.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 07:40
Subject: Re:Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
I loved this essay by Lauren though: This Holiday, I’m Going to a Gay Bar https://nyti.ms/3Xsd8Qw
Anonymous
11/24/2022 07:06
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:
The Mormon church publicly stated otherwise. Their records show him as being inactive for over a decade.
But they planted the seed of hate. Mormons hate LGBTQ+ deeply. They’ve preached hatred and intolerance for years.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 07:02
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Omg the shooter’s father was relived his son wasn’t gay when he found out about the shooting. WTF?! Father of the year! /s
The shooter comes from a completely trash family. I suspect he was gay and couldn’t handle it. The fact that you have posted his family is Mormon, say no more. My sister is Mormon. I grew up around Mormon kids out West. They are absolutely anti-gay! I don’t care if the head of the church says they aren’t. The members are the absolutely the meanest people I have been around. Mormons and Westboro Baptist Church who protested a place I was at.. both are very similar.
The shooter comes from a completely trash family. I suspect he was gay and couldn’t handle it. The fact that you have posted his family is Mormon, say no more. My sister is Mormon. I grew up around Mormon kids out West. They are absolutely anti-gay! I don’t care if the head of the church says they aren’t. The members are the absolutely the meanest people I have been around. Mormons and Westboro Baptist Church who protested a place I was at.. both are very similar.
Anonymous
11/24/2022 04:44
Subject: Re:Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
“The senseless act of violence in Colorado Springs is of great sadness and concern to us. We are greatly troubled by any violence in our communities and condemn most especially violent acts that are the result of intolerance against any of God's children. ..." 2/
Well said LDS spokesperson
Well said LDS spokesperson
Anonymous
11/24/2022 04:39
Subject: Mass shooting at lgbt nightclub in Co
Anonymous wrote:
The Mormon church publicly stated otherwise. Their records show him as being inactive for over a decade.
The shooter was a confirmed Mormon but no longer is. Would like to see the Church condemn what the shooter did. (Maybe they already have?) I certainly do not believe the speech posted above invoking the founders of the Church having to fight for their lives and in many cases be slaughtered over their beliefs was a call to violence against homosexuals.