Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 07:55     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.


Your claim is that gender ideology is not being implemented in schools?

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/09/12/despite-law-few-virginia-school-districts-adopt-state-model-transgender-policies/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-national-school-psychologist-part-of-group-offering-to-pay-rehome-gay-kids-to-new-parents
https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/summary-report-on-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-the-schools/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email



Your problem is largely the "news" sources you quote. Got any links from actual schools with the curriculum that you are opposed to?

Second, what does it mean to "implement" an ideology?

Again, I don't think the links you posted prove your original post.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 07:19     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


What is the point of religious schools other than indoctination? The mission statement is to turn out adherents to the faith. It's not like they say "wow, 24% of the graduating class is well adjusted existentialists , 6% chose Buddhism, 35% are agnostic but actively seeking..."

But back to transgender, none of my kids comes back from public school with the idea that they should actively think about transitioning. Nobody is forcing them to believe in the causes of transgenderism, what God thinks about transgenderism. There is no survey course for kids to pick out their gender identity. They are not indoctrinated. They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.


The right has contorted the notion of indoctrination in such a way that mere coexistence with a transgender child is explicit endorsement of that decision. So if you don't ostracize the transgender child, you are doing the work of the enemy.


How old are your kids? No one cares about the individual child in that regard. We do worry when there are large swaths of youth (well above statistical norm) declaring themselves the opposite sex. It's not hard to be compassionate towards the kids. The problem is there are adults all to ready to help them in their journey. These same adults who tell us the brain isn't fully developed till mid-twenties. There is more than just a simple 'be kind' message going on.


There are not large swaths of youth declaring themselves the opposite gender. Relax.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 06:38     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


I’m sorry, but how is this political? Are you saying that making it illegal for trans kids to be trans kids will save parents from the hard work of having to parent?


The religious right has made it political. They want to decide what other people's children can do or not do. They want to ban transgender girls from wearing skirts or dresses and being called by a feminine name and using she/her pronouns and for trans boys to have a hair cut (ie: social transition).

There are roughly 75,000,000 kids in the US. According to statistics I found, there have been 4700 children on blockers in the US in the last FIVE YEARS. 4700/15,000,000 = .00006% of kids are on blockers in the last five years. There have been 15,000 kids on HRT in the US in the last FIVE YEARS (I would assume some of the 4700 previously on blockers eventually made it into this number). 15000/75000000 = .0002% of children in the US. These numbers are so vanishingly small yet Republicans have decided that THIS is the new social issue to get people fired up over to replace abortion for the religious right.

Can you imagine having so little to run on that you have to try to ban 1,000 kids a year in the entire country from getting on blockers? This is your issue? Then making a law that bans social transition as well as medical transition? They're just cruel. Being transgender is already hard enough. There are more conservative adults talking about trans kids than the total number of trans kids on blockers.


the first number was supposed to be 4700/75,000,000 obviously a typo.

also numbers
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 06:35     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


I’m sorry, but how is this political? Are you saying that making it illegal for trans kids to be trans kids will save parents from the hard work of having to parent?


The religious right has made it political. They want to decide what other people's children can do or not do. They want to ban transgender girls from wearing skirts or dresses and being called by a feminine name and using she/her pronouns and for trans boys to have a hair cut (ie: social transition).

There are roughly 75,000,000 kids in the US. According to statistics I found, there have been 4700 children on blockers in the US in the last FIVE YEARS. 4700/15,000,000 = .00006% of kids are on blockers in the last five years. There have been 15,000 kids on HRT in the US in the last FIVE YEARS (I would assume some of the 4700 previously on blockers eventually made it into this number). 15000/75000000 = .0002% of children in the US. These numbers are so vanishingly small yet Republicans have decided that THIS is the new social issue to get people fired up over to replace abortion for the religious right.

Can you imagine having so little to run on that you have to try to ban 1,000 kids a year in the entire country from getting on blockers? This is your issue? Then making a law that bans social transition as well as medical transition? They're just cruel. Being transgender is already hard enough. There are more conservative adults talking about trans kids than the total number of trans kids on blockers.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2022 00:17     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Didn’t work so well this time
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 23:26     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


What is the point of religious schools other than indoctination? The mission statement is to turn out adherents to the faith. It's not like they say "wow, 24% of the graduating class is well adjusted existentialists , 6% chose Buddhism, 35% are agnostic but actively seeking..."

But back to transgender, none of my kids comes back from public school with the idea that they should actively think about transitioning. Nobody is forcing them to believe in the causes of transgenderism, what God thinks about transgenderism. There is no survey course for kids to pick out their gender identity. They are not indoctrinated. They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.


The right has contorted the notion of indoctrination in such a way that mere coexistence with a transgender child is explicit endorsement of that decision. So if you don't ostracize the transgender child, you are doing the work of the enemy.


How old are your kids? No one cares about the individual child in that regard. We do worry when there are large swaths of youth (well above statistical norm) declaring themselves the opposite sex. It's not hard to be compassionate towards the kids. The problem is there are adults all to ready to help them in their journey. These same adults who tell us the brain isn't fully developed till mid-twenties. There is more than just a simple 'be kind' message going on.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 23:16     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


What is the point of religious schools other than indoctination? The mission statement is to turn out adherents to the faith. It's not like they say "wow, 24% of the graduating class is well adjusted existentialists , 6% chose Buddhism, 35% are agnostic but actively seeking..."

But back to transgender, none of my kids comes back from public school with the idea that they should actively think about transitioning. Nobody is forcing them to believe in the causes of transgenderism, what God thinks about transgenderism. There is no survey course for kids to pick out their gender identity. They are not indoctrinated. They are not taught anything other than that some of their classmates are transgender, and they should be treated with the same respect given to other kids in school.


The right has contorted the notion of indoctrination in such a way that mere coexistence with a transgender child is explicit endorsement of that decision. So if you don't ostracize the transgender child, you are doing the work of the enemy.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 22:44     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


Or just use taxes to fund schools appropriately???? And let's also keep in mind that if all schools are voucher-based then your nice house with great 9 and 10 school ratings isn't going to be as highly desirable.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 21:41     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


Schools may not but churches and religious institutions do. I will never agree to public money to fund religious education.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:34     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


I am not particularly interested in public dollars going to subsidize home schools and jesus factories, thank you.


Or madrasahs or Jewish schools or any type of religious school! No thanks! We need to have a common basis for reality and public school is that basis.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:25     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.


I am not particularly interested in public dollars going to subsidize home schools and jesus factories, thank you.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:14     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.


Your claim is that gender ideology is not being implemented in schools?

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/09/12/despite-law-few-virginia-school-districts-adopt-state-model-transgender-policies/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-national-school-psychologist-part-of-group-offering-to-pay-rehome-gay-kids-to-new-parents
https://womensdeclarationusa.com/gender-identity-indoctrination-in-our-schools/summary-report-on-gender-identity-indoctrination-in-the-schools/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:27     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Drag queens are not the same as blackface. It’s a ridiculous analogy, as usual.


How can you possibly say that? Both are mocking - one is mocking women, the other black people. So odd that you would excuse one (and encourage) one behavior but condemn the other.


Straight men dress as women to mock them and straight men in audiences watching them laugh because they use the concept of woman as an insult.

Drag queens are not mocking femininity, they do not feel women are inferior to men and therefore that dressing as a woman is a funny insult. Sounds like you need some lessons in what drag queen performance is all about.


So if a man dressed as say Michael Jackson and wore black face to do it, it would be fine if the man did not feel blacks were inferior? even though those watching him do think blacks are inferior?

Just to be clear, you’re trying to pretend that you think that black face and drag come from the same wellspring of hatred?


No. I'm just asking if it is the feelings of the performer that matter or the feelings of the audience. Because if of the performer, than a big Michael Jackson fan imitating him in blackface is fine.

(and yes, I think the audience of drag hate women. the performers, no. the audience, yes. (although obviously not you in particular. the other audience members excepting your friends))
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:14     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Democrats want to live the pain of their child wanting to transition or experiment with gender switching, have at it. It's not all happy and glory if you go all in on what your child want, trust me, I know. There is a lot of hate thrown back at the parents because "you should have known this when I was really little and I lost valuable time". Any question you ask, even if you think it's a supportive question is often met with hostility. Consider the angst of adolescence magnified by 10.


Yes I would want my kid to have the option if it was something we as a family decide is best. I do not want the government interfering.


You honestly think that you as a family will decide? Good luck with that. Your kid gets hostile because the schools start that process - turning them away from you.


-1 The idea that schools "indoctrinate" is the hallmark of the loony right, embraced by all GOP because they use fear to motivate their followers.



Couldn't agree more, and that's why dollars need to follow students.

Let's give vouchers so ALL parents can Choose among ALL schools. Since schools don't indoctrinate, only a far right loony would oppose such an obvious policy.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:12     Subject: Will the GOP stop whining about CRT, transgender people, wokeism, and covid moms?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Drag queens are not the same as blackface. It’s a ridiculous analogy, as usual.


How can you possibly say that? Both are mocking - one is mocking women, the other black people. So odd that you would excuse one (and encourage) one behavior but condemn the other.


Straight men dress as women to mock them and straight men in audiences watching them laugh because they use the concept of woman as an insult.

Drag queens are not mocking femininity, they do not feel women are inferior to men and therefore that dressing as a woman is a funny insult. Sounds like you need some lessons in what drag queen performance is all about.


So if a man dressed as say Michael Jackson and wore black face to do it, it would be fine if the man did not feel blacks were inferior? even though those watching him do think blacks are inferior?

Just to be clear, you’re trying to pretend that you think that black face and drag come from the same wellspring of hatred?