Anonymous wrote:I still don't get why you all need to make a big deal of your patriotism by flying your flags in public, especially when it's not related to a holiday like the Fourth. If it's just an expression of your love for your country, then hang it inside your home. It's the in-your-face need to display your ideals/group identification out there for all to see (not just limited to flags of all kinds but also includes bumper stickers and the like) that I can't stand. Keep it to yourselves.

+1. I really can't stand those Republican coexist bumper stickers.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal Americans have more right to fly the flag than anyone given that the the last Republican President tried to overturn an election.

And was a huge criminal.

And Republicans still support him.

My relatives fought in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. Most of my family has been here since the 1600s.

My father was a Vietnam Vet.

I'll be damned if some conservative gets to tell me I'm not American enough to fly the flag.

Um, on the contrary - the only people doing that are liberals, hysterically insisting conservatives have "no right" to fly the flag. This forum seems to be where LWNJ loons hang out. Never seen anything like it.
DP

The only people who do what you say the “liberals” do are the “conservatives” and their ranting media. You live in a Fantasy world of your own making ..always the victim.

Agree. I live in a county that went 74% for Biden. My city even higher - 80+%. I'd be willing to bet my neighborhood is over 90% Democrats. And there are plenty of us who fly American flags.

There are also a lot of us who serve our country, serve in the military etc.

I'm fed up with this right wing narrative that any criticism or even acknowledgement of America's problems make us "un-American" - as the right wing did when we pointed out problems with police violence, as if the police are somehow beyond reproach and not to be questioned. Acknowledging you have a problem is the first step toward fixing it.

Anonymous wrote:I still don't get why you all need to make a big deal of your patriotism by flying your flags in public, especially when it's not related to a holiday like the Fourth. If it's just an expression of your love for your country, then hang it inside your home. It's the in-your-face need to display your ideals/group identification out there for all to see (not just limited to flags of all kinds but also includes bumper stickers and the like) that I can't stand. Keep it to yourselves.

I find it pretty flying in my yard. Any other questions or concerns?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Americans have more right to fly the flag than anyone given that the the last Republican President tried to overturn an election.

And was a huge criminal.

And Republicans still support him.

My relatives fought in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. Most of my family has been here since the 1600s.

My father was a Vietnam Vet.

I'll be damned if some conservative gets to tell me I'm not American enough to fly the flag.

Um, on the contrary - the only people doing that are liberals, hysterically insisting conservatives have "no right" to fly the flag. This forum seems to be where LWNJ loons hang out. Never seen anything like it.
DP

The only people who do what you say the “liberals” do are the “conservatives” and their ranting media. You live in a Fantasy world of your own making ..always the victim.

Agree. I live in a county that went 74% for Biden. My city even higher - 80+%. I'd be willing to bet my neighborhood is over 90% Democrats. And there are plenty of us who fly American flags.

Anonymous wrote:Except flying the American flag is jingoistic and patriotic, and says you’re proud of this country. Which is definitely at-odds with how progressives view America. They see this country as something to be embarrassed about and apologize for.

So it’s a little hard to rationalize flying our flag while at the same time being embarrassed about being an American and celebrating a country that you believe can’t do anything right and was founded by white men that you viscerally hate.


That’s why liberals can’t simply fly an American flag.

They’d need a modified American flag with a giant asterisk in the upper right corner.

Oh brother....founded by white men.....sure.

I still don't get why you all need to make a big deal of your patriotism by flying your flags in public, especially when it's not related to a holiday like the Fourth. If it's just an expression of your love for your country, then hang it inside your home. It's the in-your-face need to display your ideals/group identification out there for all to see (not just limited to flags of all kinds but also includes bumper stickers and the like) that I can't stand. Keep it to yourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal Americans have more right to fly the flag than anyone given that the the last Republican President tried to overturn an election.

And was a huge criminal.

And Republicans still support him.

My relatives fought in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. Most of my family has been here since the 1600s.

My father was a Vietnam Vet.

I'll be damned if some conservative gets to tell me I'm not American enough to fly the flag.

Um, on the contrary - the only people doing that are liberals, hysterically insisting conservatives have "no right" to fly the flag. This forum seems to be where LWNJ loons hang out. Never seen anything like it.
DP

DP... if you have no problem with Trump's Big Lie undermining the American institution of democracy and you have no problem with the Trump-led attack on the US Capitol then you are an un-American traitor who may have a 1A right to fly the flag but if you do, you are a completely illegitimate fraud when you do.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberal Americans have more right to fly the flag than anyone given that the the last Republican President tried to overturn an election.

And was a huge criminal.

And Republicans still support him.

My relatives fought in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. Most of my family has been here since the 1600s.

My father was a Vietnam Vet.

I'll be damned if some conservative gets to tell me I'm not American enough to fly the flag.

Um, on the contrary - the only people doing that are liberals, hysterically insisting conservatives have "no right" to fly the flag. This forum seems to be where LWNJ loons hang out. Never seen anything like it.
DP

The only people who do what you say the “liberals” do are the “conservatives” and their ranting media. You live in a Fantasy world of your own making ..always the victim.

I vote almost exclusively Democrat. I consider myself a moderate liberal. My husband is the same. We fly an American flag and have always done so - for 20+ years. We love our country, although we hate a lot of things that go on.

I support others' rights to kneel or not fly a flag or not say the pledge or not sing the National Anthem. That is their right.

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Anonymous wrote:Except flying the American flag is jingoistic and patriotic, and says you’re proud of this country. Which is definitely at-odds with how progressives view America. They see this country as something to be embarrassed about and apologize for.

So it’s a little hard to rationalize flying our flag while at the same time being embarrassed about being an American and celebrating a country that you believe can’t do anything right and was founded by white men that you viscerally hate.


That’s why liberals can’t simply fly an American flag.

They’d need a modified American flag with a giant asterisk in the upper right corner.

That’s ridiculous. Striving for continuous improvement of our republic is the most patriotic act of all. To demand that we uphold the values and ensure the freedoms and rights of Americans extend to all Americans is what makes the United States the most powerful country in the world. It is only those of us who have confidence and patriotism who can freely admit that we don’t exemplify perfection yet.

Signed a liberal who flies our flag and who has served our country.

You’re an exception, unfortunately… not the rule. I wish more liberals were like you - but they’re not. Because what you profess there is essentially the same thing conservatives believe/think/want. And that fact automatically puts you in opposition to your own peers on the left.

Republicans have a huge arc of ideological azimuth. You can be Pat Buchanan, or you can be Liz Cheney. Or anywhere in between, and still be a republican.

The dems have no such latitude. You’re either with everyone else crowded up against the left wall, or you’re Hitler (and it always goes back to being Hitler, for reasons I’ll never understand).

That’s why you’ll never be welcome there (or here) if you say things like your post.

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Anonymous wrote:Except flying the American flag is jingoistic and patriotic, and says you’re proud of this country. Which is definitely at-odds with how progressives view America. They see this country as something to be embarrassed about and apologize for.

So it’s a little hard to rationalize flying our flag while at the same time being embarrassed about being an American and celebrating a country that you believe can’t do anything right and was founded by white men that you viscerally hate.


That’s why liberals can’t simply fly an American flag.

They’d need a modified American flag with a giant asterisk in the upper right corner.

This is so true.

Which is why it will likely be deleted by tomorrow.

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Anonymous wrote:Except flying the American flag is jingoistic and patriotic, and says you’re proud of this country. Which is definitely at-odds with how progressives view America. They see this country as something to be embarrassed about and apologize for.

So it’s a little hard to rationalize flying our flag while at the same time being embarrassed about being an American and celebrating a country that you believe can’t do anything right and was founded by white men that you viscerally hate.


That’s why liberals can’t simply fly an American flag.

They’d need a modified American flag with a giant asterisk in the upper right corner.

This is all why I defected from the left. Am I alarmed about some of what happened in the Trump administration and among some Trump followers? Yes. But I like America and respect and believe in the ideals, while the left has spent several years putting forth an argument that the US is inherently evil and none of our issues can be fixed. So, while they claim the right is a threat to democracy, the left says you are a Nazi if you fly our flag. I mean, which one is it? I dont believe they want to preserve a nation they are openly contempuous of, that they loudly scorn. This is not the left of the 90s, when democrats flew flags, honored police, and respected the poor and working class.

Totally agree.
DP

Anonymous wrote:Except flying the American flag is jingoistic and patriotic, and says you’re proud of this country. Which is definitely at-odds with how progressives view America. They see this country as something to be embarrassed about and apologize for.

So it’s a little hard to rationalize flying our flag while at the same time being embarrassed about being an American and celebrating a country that you believe can’t do anything right and was founded by white men that you viscerally hate.


That’s why liberals can’t simply fly an American flag.

They’d need a modified American flag with a giant asterisk in the upper right corner.

This is so true.

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Anonymous wrote:I, a liberal, feel like we are literally fighting to hold onto the America I love. Warts and all.

Letting these treasonous idiots co-opt our flag is ceding them ownership of the country. Hard pass.

Im not a liberal and wish more people would adopt your attitude. I hope you do fly a flag. I also fear that the left is trying to burn everything down and it would be nice to see the left demonstrate that they love America "warts and all."

+100

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Americans have more right to fly the flag than anyone given that the the last Republican President tried to overturn an election.

And was a huge criminal.

And Republicans still support him.

My relatives fought in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. Most of my family has been here since the 1600s.

My father was a Vietnam Vet.

I'll be damned if some conservative gets to tell me I'm not American enough to fly the flag.

Um, on the contrary - the only people doing that are liberals, hysterically insisting conservatives have "no right" to fly the flag. This forum seems to be where LWNJ loons hang out. Never seen anything like it.
DP