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Anonymous wrote:For me it is two things:

The lack of infrastructure as far as charging stations for someone who drives long distances

How slow it takes to charge an EV versus how quickly I can fill up my car.

It can charge while you sleep. Never need to stop to recharge unless over 200 miles. Charge is done in like 10 mins which is same amount of time to gas up

What is the cost to your electricity bill?

A plug.

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Anonymous wrote:Electric cars - the biggest scam the world has ever seen?

Has anyone ever thought about this?

"If all cars were electric...

And if we were stuck in a three hour traffic jam in the cold of a blizzard, the batteries would completely die.

Because electric cars basically don’t have heating.

And being stuck on the street all night, no battery, no heating, no wipers, no radio, no GPS, the battery is long dead.

You can try to call ambulance and protect women and children but they can't come to help because all roads are closed and probably all police cars will be electric.

And when the roads are blocked by thousands of loaded cars, no one will be able to proceed. How to charge batteries on site?

The same problem during the summer vacation is the traffic jams for miles.

The possibility of turning on the air conditioning in an electric car would not be available only for a short period of time. Your batteries would die in an instant!

Of course, no politician or journalist talks about it, but this will happen.

Who to believe: a rando recycling the equivalent of an email forward from “that” uncle or engineers? https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-environment-ev-idUSL1N2RW0QD

Further? How did all of those gas-powered cars do getting stuck during snowpocalypse?

My gas powered Rubicon got me over the bank of snow that the plow left, off an exit ramp and from Spottsylvania to home on what might have been roads or perhaps not while all those Teslas and Priuses were stuck on 95. Back in the original snowpocalypse, my TJ got me home by driving up the median (with the blessing of a kind officer who probably had his own jeep at home) around a bunch of stuck cars.

Jeeps are widely understood to be joke cars for teen girls and the insecure, with the Rubicon being especially silly.

Fascinating!

You seem to think “widely understood” seems to mean you and the other two 30-something SAHM’s you hang out with at the pool.


Please, if I may - what are some other things you think are also “widely understood”? I’m genuinely fascinated to hear!

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Anonymous wrote:For me it is two things:

The lack of infrastructure as far as charging stations for someone who drives long distances

How slow it takes to charge an EV versus how quickly I can fill up my car.

This.

boomer energy

And you WISH you had it, kitten.

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Anonymous wrote:For me it is two things:

The lack of infrastructure as far as charging stations for someone who drives long distances

How slow it takes to charge an EV versus how quickly I can fill up my car.

This.

Hell. Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Would never by an EV as that's just giving up on the fun of driving. And you look like a turd inside an EV. Leave EVs for the soccer moms and elderly.

Bored middle schooler?

Someone who thinks EVs are no fun has never driven one. Teslas in sport mode are insane. A capacitor is always going to be able to discharge faster than an ICE.

Not after the second or third time you stomp on the pedal. Full response accelerating time after time for gas unlike EVs. And who wants something without some noise. Boring cars.

Sounds like you’ve never driven a good EV before.

This. I’d like PP to drive our BMW iX and then tell me it’s boring. Oh and BMW has engineered the car so that it absolutely sounds like a gas car when you accelerate.

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Anonymous wrote:For me it is two things:

The lack of infrastructure as far as charging stations for someone who drives long distances

How slow it takes to charge an EV versus how quickly I can fill up my car.

This.

boomer energy

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Anonymous wrote:Electric cars - the biggest scam the world has ever seen?

Has anyone ever thought about this?

"If all cars were electric...

And if we were stuck in a three hour traffic jam in the cold of a blizzard, the batteries would completely die.

Because electric cars basically don’t have heating.

And being stuck on the street all night, no battery, no heating, no wipers, no radio, no GPS, the battery is long dead.

You can try to call ambulance and protect women and children but they can't come to help because all roads are closed and probably all police cars will be electric.

And when the roads are blocked by thousands of loaded cars, no one will be able to proceed. How to charge batteries on site?

The same problem during the summer vacation is the traffic jams for miles.

The possibility of turning on the air conditioning in an electric car would not be available only for a short period of time. Your batteries would die in an instant!

Of course, no politician or journalist talks about it, but this will happen.

Who to believe: a rando recycling the equivalent of an email forward from “that” uncle or engineers? https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-environment-ev-idUSL1N2RW0QD

Further? How did all of those gas-powered cars do getting stuck during snowpocalypse?

My gas powered Rubicon got me over the bank of snow that the plow left, off an exit ramp and from Spottsylvania to home on what might have been roads or perhaps not while all those Teslas and Priuses were stuck on 95. Back in the original snowpocalypse, my TJ got me home by driving up the median (with the blessing of a kind officer who probably had his own jeep at home) around a bunch of stuck cars.

Jeeps are widely understood to be joke cars for teen girls and the insecure, with the Rubicon being especially silly.

Only because the majority of the population doesn't understand the use case (off-roading) and the majority of jeep owners don't use them to their full capacity.

Anonymous wrote:For me it is two things:

The lack of infrastructure as far as charging stations for someone who drives long distances

How slow it takes to charge an EV versus how quickly I can fill up my car.

This.

Anonymous wrote:If I forget to charge it or there is an issue with charging at home, I can't go anywhere.

I think it's fine for the extra family car but at the same time, my teenager will drive the extra car and I'm not sure he will charge it.

Also - they don't all charge very fast and I'm not sure how long the battery will last which is a major expense to replace.

I'm somewhat open to a hybrid though.

If someone gave me a free Tesla - I'd sell it and get something else. I cannot stand Elon Musk or the look of a Telsa.

You also can't go anywhere if you forget to put gas in your gas-powered car. If that seems like something you'd be unlikely to do, I don't think you need to worry about the prospect of forgetting to charge your EV, either.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Electric cars - the biggest scam the world has ever seen?

Has anyone ever thought about this?

"If all cars were electric...

And if we were stuck in a three hour traffic jam in the cold of a blizzard, the batteries would completely die.

Because electric cars basically don’t have heating.

And being stuck on the street all night, no battery, no heating, no wipers, no radio, no GPS, the battery is long dead.

You can try to call ambulance and protect women and children but they can't come to help because all roads are closed and probably all police cars will be electric.

And when the roads are blocked by thousands of loaded cars, no one will be able to proceed. How to charge batteries on site?

The same problem during the summer vacation is the traffic jams for miles.

The possibility of turning on the air conditioning in an electric car would not be available only for a short period of time. Your batteries would die in an instant!

Of course, no politician or journalist talks about it, but this will happen.

Who to believe: a rando recycling the equivalent of an email forward from “that” uncle or engineers? https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-environment-ev-idUSL1N2RW0QD

Further? How did all of those gas-powered cars do getting stuck during snowpocalypse?

My gas powered Rubicon got me over the bank of snow that the plow left, off an exit ramp and from Spottsylvania to home on what might have been roads or perhaps not while all those Teslas and Priuses were stuck on 95. Back in the original snowpocalypse, my TJ got me home by driving up the median (with the blessing of a kind officer who probably had his own jeep at home) around a bunch of stuck cars.

Jeeps are widely understood to be joke cars for teen girls and the insecure, with the Rubicon being especially silly.

They make an electric Jeep now.... Love my Rubicon.

We wouldn't but an EV as it doesn't make sense. The cost of a new car when we don't drive much (WAH/SAH) in terms of gas vs. car payment with older car (which at some point will need replacing) isn't worth the cost difference. Plus the cost to put a charger in. It really depends on your lifestyle choices. There is a big difference from someone filling up twice a week and someone filling up twice a month.

If I forget to charge it or there is an issue with charging at home, I can't go anywhere.

I think it's fine for the extra family car but at the same time, my teenager will drive the extra car and I'm not sure he will charge it.

Also - they don't all charge very fast and I'm not sure how long the battery will last which is a major expense to replace.

I'm somewhat open to a hybrid though.

If someone gave me a free Tesla - I'd sell it and get something else. I cannot stand Elon Musk or the look of a Telsa.

We decided that instead of buying an EV, we're going to buy a used car that gets good mileage, and then spend the savings on a cargo bike with an electric assist. We already drive very minimally (to kid activities a couple times a week, for occasional big hauls from the grocery store, and to get out of town on weekends -- no car commute and we try to do most errands on foot or bike). If we get a cargo bike, we can do school drop-off/pick-up on that (we currently walk but this would cut time in half or more), 90% of kid activities, all grocery trips, all errands. Our goal would be to only take the car out on weekends when we actually leave the city, which I think could potentially reduce our gas usage by half of what is already a pretty low number.

EVs are still expensive and not necessarily the best way to reduce your carbon emissions. If you drive a lot, yes. If you don't or have other lifestyle priorities, there may be better ways. Like using a cargo bike, switching to more train travel over driving or flying, reducing how much online ordering you do, etc. I think when people fixate on "everyone needs an EV", it tends to ignore that part of the problem is car-dependency. I think EVs are a terrific alternative to gas-powered vehicles, but when we looked at it more broadly, it simply was not the best way to spend our money.

Battery fires are serious. Takes a lot of water--more than a normal fire truck carries--to extinguish the fire. Also, spontaneous fires occur. Especially dangerous for those with attached garages.

Lack of charging stations.

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Anonymous wrote:Who gives a sh*t about how quickly it gets to 100mph? If you’re driving like that you shouldn’t be on the damn road.

Idiot drivers.

Enjoy your Corolla.

Enjoy wasting your money on the stupidest thing you can throw money at…an expensive “performance car”.

Idiot.

So bitter.