Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Texas did not join the Big Ten because the Big Ten would not accept Oklahoma as Oklahoma is not an AAU member school. (That was the gossip discussed at that time.)
Why would the University of Florida move ????
If Florida leaves the SEC, then FSU will move to the SEC and get first choice on many top recruits.
The Big Ten and its broadcast partners want Notre Dame--even though it is not an AAU member school.
The Big Ten would accept Texas in a heartbeat.
Beyond Notre Dame and Texas, all other schools are speculation.
West Coast schools such as Stanford, Cal, Oregon, and Washington are being considered so that USC & UCLA can have regional playmates. Stanford is also attractive since it has a traditional rivalry with Notre Dame--and the Big Ten really, really, really wants Notre Dame.
Stanford is for the #5 media market. They are going to be asked plus maybe Cal. Then the BiG has NYC, LA, Chi, DC/Balt and SF/Oak. Checkmate for dollars.
Google search shows Dallas/Ft. Worth as the #5 media market, then San Francisco area at #6. Georgia Tech offers the Atlanta media market and an in-road to one of the top football recruiting states (Texas & Florida may be the top 2 football recruiting states. California should be among the top 5).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Texas did not join the Big Ten because the Big Ten would not accept Oklahoma as Oklahoma is not an AAU member school. (That was the gossip discussed at that time.)
Why would the University of Florida move ????
If Florida leaves the SEC, then FSU will move to the SEC and get first choice on many top recruits.
The Big Ten and its broadcast partners want Notre Dame--even though it is not an AAU member school.
The Big Ten would accept Texas in a heartbeat.
Beyond Notre Dame and Texas, all other schools are speculation.
West Coast schools such as Stanford, Cal, Oregon, and Washington are being considered so that USC & UCLA can have regional playmates. Stanford is also attractive since it has a traditional rivalry with Notre Dame--and the Big Ten really, really, really wants Notre Dame.
Stanford is for the #5 media market. They are going to be asked plus maybe Cal. Then the BiG has NYC, LA, Chi, DC/Balt and SF/Oak. Checkmate for dollars.
Anonymous wrote:Texas did not join the Big Ten because the Big Ten would not accept Oklahoma as Oklahoma is not an AAU member school. (That was the gossip discussed at that time.)
Why would the University of Florida move ????
If Florida leaves the SEC, then FSU will move to the SEC and get first choice on many top recruits.
The Big Ten and its broadcast partners want Notre Dame--even though it is not an AAU member school.
The Big Ten would accept Texas in a heartbeat.
Beyond Notre Dame and Texas, all other schools are speculation.
West Coast schools such as Stanford, Cal, Oregon, and Washington are being considered so that USC & UCLA can have regional playmates. Stanford is also attractive since it has a traditional rivalry with Notre Dame--and the Big Ten really, really, really wants Notre Dame.
Anonymous wrote:Yes there will be a 3rd weaker conference with Uva, GT, UNC, Clemson, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, NC state, VT, Wvu, Iowa State, Kansas, Duke, UConn, Texas Tech, Houston, Cincinnati, Kansas State, Arizona, ASU, Utah, Oregon, BYU, Nevada.
Florida State and Miami will go the SEC after Florida leaves for the Big Ten.
Anonymous wrote:Yes there will be a 3rd weaker conference with Uva, GT, UNC, Clemson, Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville, NC state, VT, Wvu, Iowa State, Kansas, Duke, UConn, Texas Tech, Houston, Cincinnati, Kansas State, Arizona, ASU, Utah, Oregon, BYU, Nevada.
Florida State and Miami will go the SEC after Florida leaves for the Big Ten.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the ACC will merge with the big 12 and PAC 12 leftovers
The only school the Big Ten might take is BC for the lentire New England region with no competition
Texas and eventually Florida will join the Big Ten since they add huge value are too snooty for the SEC and will make more money in the Big ten.
Unc and Uva don’t bring enough value splitting their states with larger and more football oriented schools in the same state.
While I would never say never, I don't think either SEC or Big want to be national. I doubt Big 10 dips to Texas or Florida and I don't think they would move. We are moving to 2 super conferences -- one more or less in the south and one more or less in the north with the leftover ACC, Pac12, Big12 as a poorer third.
The BiG is already national. From coast to coast in the largest 4 and soon 5 media markets. The new media package has games all Saturday from noon ending with Pacific time zone games. Texas could flip to the BiG before they join the SEC in 2 years.
Florida would jump as soon as possible.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the ACC will merge with the big 12 and PAC 12 leftovers
The only school the Big Ten might take is BC for the lentire New England region with no competition
Texas and eventually Florida will join the Big Ten since they add huge value are too snooty for the SEC and will make more money in the Big ten.
Unc and Uva don’t bring enough value splitting their states with larger and more football oriented schools in the same state.
While I would never say never, I don't think either SEC or Big want to be national. I doubt Big 10 dips to Texas or Florida and I don't think they would move. We are moving to 2 super conferences -- one more or less in the south and one more or less in the north with the leftover ACC, Pac12, Big12 as a poorer third.
Anonymous wrote:I think the ACC will merge with the big 12 and PAC 12 leftovers
The only school the Big Ten might take is BC for the lentire New England region with no competition
Texas and eventually Florida will join the Big Ten since they add huge value are too snooty for the SEC and will make more money in the Big ten.
Unc and Uva don’t bring enough value splitting their states with larger and more football oriented schools in the same state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like 75 million a year then up to 100 million in 24 when UCLA and USC partner up.
The poor ACC gets 30 mill per school until 2036.
ACC gets more than 30 million now never mind later. ACC has the third best deal after SEC and Big10. Not enough to make it work but they are not the Pac12.
Payout to Big 10 does not go up at all until the LA schools join. And then only by a little for the first two years the increasing quickly to the numbers in the papers
The current grant-of-rights deal would require a school to be penalized their annual revenue distribution, which was a little more than $36 million for Clemson in 2020-21, multiplied by the number of years remaining on the grant-of-rights contract. That means if the Tigers joined the SEC in 2024 – the same year as Oklahoma and Texas – Clemson would have to pay roughly $468 million to leave the ACC.
IF a majority of the ACC schools vote to break the agreement it can be broken. That is the most likely way. Some schools that want SEC work with some that want Big 10. If you can get a majority of ACC schools it would work.
Miami, Clemson, and florida state to SEC. Duke, NC? Maybe. Who to Big10? Big10 will want ND and they want Stanford but who else?. They could take a couple from ACC. Duke if not to SEC? BC is the best fit but who knows. UVA? could work.
If this drags out, Duke better hope their isn't a post coach K drop off because mens basketball ratings is the only thing they bring to the table. I think UVA and UNC make the most sense to the big 10, but Georgia Tech fits academically and brings the Atlanta media market so they could be a wild card
Yes GT, Duke, BC, Wake, VA best fits academically. Wake too small and VA not likely to go without Tech who will not get an invite. GT gives Atlanta but may be too far south for what they are planning. BC give New England.