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Anonymous wrote:The thing I find interesting in the things I’m reading since Friday here and on social media, is that the loudest voices are white privileged woman who CAN afford another baby and aren’t dealing with bad circumstances. Woman who want the option but might never choose and don’t relate at all the poor, underprivileged woman who seem most likely to choose abortion. I teach in a school with this population and likely half are illegal immigrants. Most of the kids I had could have been aborted because of their mom’s circumstances yet they choose life for them instead. And their lives haven’t necessarily gotten easier.

The statistics are out there that a majority of woman having abortions are Christian, married woman. Or the stories above of the catholic girls who likely had unsupportive parents and were terrified to tell them, not that it was easier for them to choose abortion.

I’m sorry but what is your point?

The point is that it’s not going to solve the problem of abortion being less accessible. These voices may not be anti-abortion but the time has come to figure out they can help to support the woman who find themselves in situations where they really, truly can’t afford to have a baby. It’s not a cause to fight for privileged woman who just don’t want to have a baby.

I still don’t get your point. So now, that abortion is being outlawed, you want to tone police women who are upset and suggest that they don’t really NEED abortions because they can afford to raise children? Seriously wtf is wrong with you.

It’s not being outlawed. Especially not anywhere near the DC area. But this issue is bigger than “ I didn’t want that gender” so I terminated the pregnancy. All I’m saying is the woman speaking out against this are not the woman in real need of an abortion.

Wait what? I’m OP and I am a white Jewish woman and I needed an abortion.

Are you saying that Hispanic and black and poor women should be aborting their children just because of their race or social status?

Well, OP, why do you think Planned Parenthood was started in the first place? There are such racist overtones to this issue that so many of you are just too narrow minded and unwilling to learn.

Please. I am plenty informed on race and abortion. I read articles like this (from a Black Woman) published seven years ago. You are a) behind in your information about race and planned parenthood and b) misinformed. Do not use Black women to try to further your narratives that deny them healthcare. Let them speak for themselves.

https://rewirenewsgroup.com/article/2015/08/20/false-narratives-margaret-sanger-used-shame-black-women/

Why is abortion the only type of healthcare for the poor that you are so concerned with? What are you doing to help people who lack access to everyday healthcare? For those who can't get treatment for diabetes, high blood pressure, Lupus, oral health? So many things that have such more greater implications on our society. If you are so concerned about Black women being denied healthcare, what are you doing about it? Besides coming here and posting a link to a heavily heavily biased website. Sanger's character and goals are well known. It is fact. I am not misinformed or behind. You are naive.

Anonymous wrote:I am the author of the gender selection "story." It is as real as any other story here.

I had 2 boys and didn't want another one. That's it.

If you don't like it, choose another reason. I absolutely have a right to determine my family make-up.

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion is one of those things you can be fully, 100 percent against - until you need one. My catholic best childhood friend was against abortion rights until she got pregnant at 19. She got an abortion.

This x 1,000, 000

I grew up Catholic and going to Catholic schools. The first person I knew to have an abortion was a very pro life and had participated in rallies with our church and had actually cried tears while talking about the issue with others. When she got pregnancy as a freshman in college her first thought was to have an abortion which she did. She didn’t regret it. She still attends church, married has kids.

I absolutely believe a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy. But then again, I also absolutely believe that a person has a right to refuse vaccines. And the absolute right to refuse any and/or all medical interventions and medications. (as long as they are a legal competent adult) It’s their body, their life, their choice. I absolutely don’t support most pro choice organizations because they don’t believe these things. If you say “my body, my choice” but believe it only aligns with this one issue, then you don’t really believe it and I can understand why pro life proponents don’t take you seriously.

Reproductive choices don't make anyone else sick. The choice to not get your kids the typical childhood vaccinations has made other people sick. With the original variant of the Covid pandemic, vaccinations absolutely protected those around us. And throughout the pandemic, unvaccinated people have caused stress on the health care system.

There's a huge difference between vaccination and abortion.

Neither are reversible.
Both can have serious health consequences for the individual receiving them.
So you either believe “my body, my choice” in all medical choices or you don’t really believe it and just like to say slogans. 🤷‍♀️

I do believe "my body my choice." But vaccines affect everyone around you. Abortions don't. I don't believe vaccines can be required to live in the US (my body my choice) but I am ok with restrictions on unvaccinated people by employers and private business because of the fact that unvaccinated people can negatively affect the people around them (my choice=my choice to accept the consequences). A woman's abortion has zero potential to negatively affect the people around her.

Well, it affects one other person around her, at least.

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I terminated when we found out the 3rd pregnancy was a boy. I had told my husband I would only raise a 3rd child if it was a girl, as our first 2 were boys. This was an unintended pregnancy so I was not thrilled to begin with. 1st trimester so there were no issues.

I find this absolutely appalling. I am struggling with how I feel about abortion, and a story like this makes it even harder.

You might also consider that this is extremely likely to be untrue/a troll.

My mother worked in a women’s hospital as a nurse and said this was in fact a very common reason to have an abortion. Other common reasons were, I’m going on vacation or to a wedding and want to be able to drink or I just don’t feel like being pregnant right now.

You know, you don't have to like any of those reasons. You can feel they are totally wrong. People do things I strongly disagree with each and every day, but I wouldn't think of making illegal, like drinking alcohol.

Are you really comparing an adult drinking alcohol to aborting a baby?

Yes. We are talking about the government being able to enforce what a person can and cannot do with their body.

Remember that at one point, alcohol was illegal, because alcohol consumption has extremely negatively consequences for society at large. People die every day from drinking alcohol and from being impacted from those who drink. But we realized that hey, making something illegal isn't the way to deal with this. So yes, they are both good examples of disapproving of a choice but not advocating for criminalizing that choice.

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I terminated when we found out the 3rd pregnancy was a boy. I had told my husband I would only raise a 3rd child if it was a girl, as our first 2 were boys. This was an unintended pregnancy so I was not thrilled to begin with. 1st trimester so there were no issues.

I find this absolutely appalling. I am struggling with how I feel about abortion, and a story like this makes it even harder.

You might also consider that this is extremely likely to be untrue/a troll.

My mother worked in a women’s hospital as a nurse and said this was in fact a very common reason to have an abortion. Other common reasons were, I’m going on vacation or to a wedding and want to be able to drink or I just don’t feel like being pregnant right now.

You know, you don't have to like any of those reasons. You can feel they are totally wrong. People do things I strongly disagree with each and every day, but I wouldn't think of making illegal, like drinking alcohol.

Are you really comparing an adult drinking alcohol to aborting a baby?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I find interesting in the things I’m reading since Friday here and on social media, is that the loudest voices are white privileged woman who CAN afford another baby and aren’t dealing with bad circumstances. Woman who want the option but might never choose and don’t relate at all the poor, underprivileged woman who seem most likely to choose abortion. I teach in a school with this population and likely half are illegal immigrants. Most of the kids I had could have been aborted because of their mom’s circumstances yet they choose life for them instead. And their lives haven’t necessarily gotten easier.

The statistics are out there that a majority of woman having abortions are Christian, married woman. Or the stories above of the catholic girls who likely had unsupportive parents and were terrified to tell them, not that it was easier for them to choose abortion.

I’m sorry but what is your point?

The point is that it’s not going to solve the problem of abortion being less accessible. These voices may not be anti-abortion but the time has come to figure out they can help to support the woman who find themselves in situations where they really, truly can’t afford to have a baby. It’s not a cause to fight for privileged woman who just don’t want to have a baby.

I still don’t get your point. So now, that abortion is being outlawed, you want to tone police women who are upset and suggest that they don’t really NEED abortions because they can afford to raise children? Seriously wtf is wrong with you.

It’s not being outlawed. Especially not anywhere near the DC area. But this issue is bigger than “ I didn’t want that gender” so I terminated the pregnancy. All I’m saying is the woman speaking out against this are not the woman in real need of an abortion.

Wait what? I’m OP and I am a white Jewish woman and I needed an abortion.

Are you saying that Hispanic and black and poor women should be aborting their children just because of their race or social status?

Well, OP, why do you think Planned Parenthood was started in the first place? There are such racist overtones to this issue that so many of you are just too narrow minded and unwilling to learn.

Please. I am plenty informed on race and abortion. I read articles like this (from a Black Woman) published seven years ago. You are a) behind in your information about race and planned parenthood and b) misinformed. Do not use Black women to try to further your narratives that deny them healthcare. Let them speak for themselves.

https://rewirenewsgroup.com/article/2015/08/20/false-narratives-margaret-sanger-used-shame-black-women/

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion is one of those things you can be fully, 100 percent against - until you need one. My catholic best childhood friend was against abortion rights until she got pregnant at 19. She got an abortion.

This x 1,000, 000

I grew up Catholic and going to Catholic schools. The first person I knew to have an abortion was a very pro life and had participated in rallies with our church and had actually cried tears while talking about the issue with others. When she got pregnancy as a freshman in college her first thought was to have an abortion which she did. She didn’t regret it. She still attends church, married has kids.

I absolutely believe a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy. But then again, I also absolutely believe that a person has a right to refuse vaccines. And the absolute right to refuse any and/or all medical interventions and medications. (as long as they are a legal competent adult) It’s their body, their life, their choice. I absolutely don’t support most pro choice organizations because they don’t believe these things. If you say “my body, my choice” but believe it only aligns with this one issue, then you don’t really believe it and I can understand why pro life proponents don’t take you seriously.

Reproductive choices don't make anyone else sick. The choice to not get your kids the typical childhood vaccinations has made other people sick. With the original variant of the Covid pandemic, vaccinations absolutely protected those around us. And throughout the pandemic, unvaccinated people have caused stress on the health care system.

There's a huge difference between vaccination and abortion.

Neither are reversible.
Both can have serious health consequences for the individual receiving them.
So you either believe “my body, my choice” in all medical choices or you don’t really believe it and just like to say slogans. 🤷‍♀️

I do believe "my body my choice." But vaccines affect everyone around you. Abortions don't. I don't believe vaccines can be required to live in the US (my body my choice) but I am ok with restrictions on unvaccinated people by employers and private business because of the fact that unvaccinated people can negatively affect the people around them (my choice=my choice to accept the consequences). A woman's abortion has zero potential to negatively affect the people around her.

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I terminated when we found out the 3rd pregnancy was a boy. I had told my husband I would only raise a 3rd child if it was a girl, as our first 2 were boys. This was an unintended pregnancy so I was not thrilled to begin with. 1st trimester so there were no issues.

I find this absolutely appalling. I am struggling with how I feel about abortion, and a story like this makes it even harder.

You might also consider that this is extremely likely to be untrue/a troll.

My mother worked in a women’s hospital as a nurse and said this was in fact a very common reason to have an abortion. Other common reasons were, I’m going on vacation or to a wedding and want to be able to drink or I just don’t feel like being pregnant right now.

You know, you don't have to like any of those reasons. You can feel they are totally wrong. People do things I strongly disagree with each and every day, but I wouldn't think of making illegal, like drinking alcohol.

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I terminated when we found out the 3rd pregnancy was a boy. I had told my husband I would only raise a 3rd child if it was a girl, as our first 2 were boys. This was an unintended pregnancy so I was not thrilled to begin with. 1st trimester so there were no issues.

I find this absolutely appalling. I am struggling with how I feel about abortion, and a story like this makes it even harder.

You might also consider that this is extremely likely to be untrue/a troll.

My mother worked in a women’s hospital as a nurse and said this was in fact a very common reason to have an abortion. Other common reasons were, I’m going on vacation or to a wedding and want to be able to drink or I just don’t feel like being pregnant right now.

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I terminated when we found out the 3rd pregnancy was a boy. I had told my husband I would only raise a 3rd child if it was a girl, as our first 2 were boys. This was an unintended pregnancy so I was not thrilled to begin with. 1st trimester so there were no issues.

I find this absolutely appalling. I am struggling with how I feel about abortion, and a story like this makes it even harder.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I find interesting in the things I’m reading since Friday here and on social media, is that the loudest voices are white privileged woman who CAN afford another baby and aren’t dealing with bad circumstances. Woman who want the option but might never choose and don’t relate at all the poor, underprivileged woman who seem most likely to choose abortion. I teach in a school with this population and likely half are illegal immigrants. Most of the kids I had could have been aborted because of their mom’s circumstances yet they choose life for them instead. And their lives haven’t necessarily gotten easier.

The statistics are out there that a majority of woman having abortions are Christian, married woman. Or the stories above of the catholic girls who likely had unsupportive parents and were terrified to tell them, not that it was easier for them to choose abortion.

I’m sorry but what is your point?

The point is that it’s not going to solve the problem of abortion being less accessible. These voices may not be anti-abortion but the time has come to figure out they can help to support the woman who find themselves in situations where they really, truly can’t afford to have a baby. It’s not a cause to fight for privileged woman who just don’t want to have a baby.

I still don’t get your point. So now, that abortion is being outlawed, you want to tone police women who are upset and suggest that they don’t really NEED abortions because they can afford to raise children? Seriously wtf is wrong with you.

It’s not being outlawed. Especially not anywhere near the DC area. But this issue is bigger than “ I didn’t want that gender” so I terminated the pregnancy. All I’m saying is the woman speaking out against this are not the woman in real need of an abortion.

Wait what? I’m OP and I am a white Jewish woman and I needed an abortion.

Are you saying that Hispanic and black and poor women should be aborting their children just because of their race or social status?

Well, OP, why do you think Planned Parenthood was started in the first place? There are such racist overtones to this issue that so many of you are just too narrow minded and unwilling to learn.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't want to be in the situation where people are debating whether your life is "truly' at risk before getting access to an abortion. The outcry over the case below is why heavily Catholic Ireland now allows abortion.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/savita-halappanavar

Savita Halappanavar died on October 28, 2012, at Galway University Hospital after suffering a septic miscarriage for which she was denied an abortion.

I used to work at a hospital in Liberia, where abortion was illegal. Our doctor performed abortions. He explained to me that when he was a new doctor, a girl came asking for an abortion and they denied it to her. She tried herself and show back at the hospital dead. After that, even though it was risky, he did them.

Did he ever offer resources? Supposedly most people don’t really want an abortion, but feel alone with no other options.

In Liberia? Do you even hear yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion is one of those things you can be fully, 100 percent against - until you need one. My catholic best childhood friend was against abortion rights until she got pregnant at 19. She got an abortion.

This x 1,000, 000

I grew up Catholic and going to Catholic schools. The first person I knew to have an abortion was a very pro life and had participated in rallies with our church and had actually cried tears while talking about the issue with others. When she got pregnancy as a freshman in college her first thought was to have an abortion which she did. She didn’t regret it. She still attends church, married has kids.

I absolutely believe a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy. But then again, I also absolutely believe that a person has a right to refuse vaccines. And the absolute right to refuse any and/or all medical interventions and medications. (as long as they are a legal competent adult) It’s their body, their life, their choice. I absolutely don’t support most pro choice organizations because they don’t believe these things. If you say “my body, my choice” but believe it only aligns with this one issue, then you don’t really believe it and I can understand why pro life proponents don’t take you seriously.

Reproductive choices don't make anyone else sick. The choice to not get your kids the typical childhood vaccinations has made other people sick. With the original variant of the Covid pandemic, vaccinations absolutely protected those around us. And throughout the pandemic, unvaccinated people have caused stress on the health care system.

There's a huge difference between vaccination and abortion.

Neither are reversible.
Both can have serious health consequences for the individual receiving them.
So you either believe “my body, my choice” in all medical choices or you don’t really believe it and just like to say slogans. 🤷‍♀️

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I terminated when we found out the 3rd pregnancy was a boy. I had told my husband I would only raise a 3rd child if it was a girl, as our first 2 were boys. This was an unintended pregnancy so I was not thrilled to begin with. 1st trimester so there were no issues.

I find this absolutely appalling. I am struggling with how I feel about abortion, and a story like this makes it even harder.

You might also consider that this is extremely likely to be untrue/a troll.

My mother worked in a women’s hospital as a nurse and said this was in fact a very common reason to have an abortion. Other common reasons were, I’m going on vacation or to a wedding and want to be able to drink or I just don’t feel like being pregnant right now.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't want to be in the situation where people are debating whether your life is "truly' at risk before getting access to an abortion. The outcry over the case below is why heavily Catholic Ireland now allows abortion.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/savita-halappanavar

Savita Halappanavar died on October 28, 2012, at Galway University Hospital after suffering a septic miscarriage for which she was denied an abortion.

I used to work at a hospital in Liberia, where abortion was illegal. Our doctor performed abortions. He explained to me that when he was a new doctor, a girl came asking for an abortion and they denied it to her. She tried herself and show back at the hospital dead. After that, even though it was risky, he did them.

Did he ever offer resources? Supposedly most people don’t really want an abortion, but feel alone with no other options.