Anonymous
07/14/2022 09:20
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
I thought my point was pretty straightforward. If you win a competition unfairly, the person who deserved to win won't.
If you play by the rules then it is fair. Who makes the rules? You or the school?
Anonymous
07/14/2022 09:17
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
But teachers and colleges don't view it that way. No college is going to look at an 18-year-old's application and go "Well, I know this student is the most qualified candidate, but they're also a year older than the other applicants. If they were in their age appropriate cohort, they probably wouldn't be the top applicant."
I am sure that when 11 year old Ronan Farrow and other child geniuses applied to college the admissions team gave him concessions due to age. That’s the definition of holistic admissions.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 21:45
Subject: Re:8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:When is kindergarten cut off date in the DMV area?
It used to be Dec 31 but in recent years it's Aug 31.
Anonymous
07/13/2022 21:44
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
But teachers and colleges don't view it that way. No college is going to look at an 18-year-old's application and go "Well, I know this student is the most qualified candidate, but they're also a year older than the other applicants. If they were in their age appropriate cohort, they probably wouldn't be the top applicant."
Anonymous
07/12/2022 22:54
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
I thought my point was pretty straightforward. If you win a competition unfairly, the person who deserved to win won't.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 09:22
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:
8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18
Wrong
100% correct.
8th: 12-14; most are 13 turning 14 during the school year
9th: 13-15; most are 14 turning 15
10th: 14-16; most are 15 turning 16
11th: 15-17; most are 16 turning 17
12th: 16-18; most are 17 turning 18
Wrong.
You’re absolutely insane and the PP is correct. I have a summer birthday and was not redshirted. I was 5 for all of K, 17 for all of senior year. A kid with a mid year birthday, say in February, would start K at 5 and turn 6 midway through the year. The oldest non-redshirted kids (in VA, those born in October) would be 5 for a few weeks at the beginning of K and turn 6 in, say, early October.
The vast majority of redshirted kids have summer birthdays. Meaning that, unlike me as a kid, they would be 6 for all of K, and 18 for all of senior year of HS. In public schools, the number of redshirted non summer bday kids in Gen ed (non-ESOL or special needs - those kids get to stay in public schools longer) is teeny tiny. It’s a higher number in private, where earlier “unofficial” cutoffs are common and a fair number of spring birthday kids are also redshirted. Of course, you’re free to leave private and slum it in public with the rest of us if you don’t like redshirted spring birthdays at private school.
You inadvertently confirmed what the person said who you were trying to oppose.
Anonymous
07/11/2022 09:20
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Are you always an unclever idiot?
Anonymous
07/11/2022 08:37
Subject: Re:8th grader who is 15?
With Sept 30 cutoff and **no redshirting** there are kids in these age ranges:
8th: 12-14; most are 13 turning 14 during school
9th: 13-15; most are 14 turning 15
10th: 14-16; most are 15 turning 16
11th: 15-17; most are 16 turning 17
12th: 16-18; most are 17 turning 18
8th: 12-14; most are 13 turning 14 during school
9th: 13-15; most are 14 turning 15
10th: 14-16; most are 15 turning 16
11th: 15-17; most are 16 turning 17
12th: 16-18; most are 17 turning 18
Anonymous
07/10/2022 19:52
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:
8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18
Wrong
100% correct.
8th: 12-14; most are 13 turning 14 during the school year
9th: 13-15; most are 14 turning 15
10th: 14-16; most are 15 turning 16
11th: 15-17; most are 16 turning 17
12th: 16-18; most are 17 turning 18
Wrong.
You’re absolutely insane and the PP is correct. I have a summer birthday and was not redshirted. I was 5 for all of K, 17 for all of senior year. A kid with a mid year birthday, say in February, would start K at 5 and turn 6 midway through the year. The oldest non-redshirted kids (in VA, those born in October) would be 5 for a few weeks at the beginning of K and turn 6 in, say, early October.
The vast majority of redshirted kids have summer birthdays. Meaning that, unlike me as a kid, they would be 6 for all of K, and 18 for all of senior year of HS. In public schools, the number of redshirted non summer bday kids in Gen ed (non-ESOL or special needs - those kids get to stay in public schools longer) is teeny tiny. It’s a higher number in private, where earlier “unofficial” cutoffs are common and a fair number of spring birthday kids are also redshirted. Of course, you’re free to leave private and slum it in public with the rest of us if you don’t like redshirted spring birthdays at private school.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 23:40
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 23:27
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Do you always sound like you’re reading If You Give A Mouse A Cookie? But thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 23:21
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I started college at 17 (october birthday). I’m a teacher and one year had a 6th grade class with a 9,10,11,12, and 13 year old out of about 20 students. The massive age gap was obvious in the classroom and made teaching and social relationships difficult.
What? For there to be a 9 year old in 6th grade, that means they were 3 in kindergarten. GMAB. Do you think people can’t add and subtract? Either you’re lying, or that kid was a genius, in which case (s)he had no problem keeping up with 12 year olds in 6th grade. Same with the 10 year old who started K at 4.
Yeah, “9 year old in 6th” sounds like BS.
And how old were they all on 9/1 vs. 6/15? It’s totally normal to have 10 & 11 year olds at the start of the year. And 11 & 12 year olds at the end. Without any redshirting. So 10-12 is normal age range.
Spring redshirting (13) is rare. And so is skipping a grade (9).
Anonymous
07/09/2022 23:04
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:I started college at 17 (october birthday). I’m a teacher and one year had a 6th grade class with a 9,10,11,12, and 13 year old out of about 20 students. The massive age gap was obvious in the classroom and made teaching and social relationships difficult.
What? For there to be a 9 year old in 6th grade, that means they were 3 in kindergarten. GMAB. Do you think people can’t add and subtract? Either you’re lying, or that kid was a genius, in which case (s)he had no problem keeping up with 12 year olds in 6th grade. Same with the 10 year old who started K at 4.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 22:53
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.
Yes, it does hurt other kids actually. This student is probably going to be valedictorian 4 years from now at 19, which means that the 17/18 year old who will truly have deserved to be valedictorian will be robbed of that honor. This student will probably get into Harvard/Berkeley/Yale/UCLA/Princeton/Stanford/MIT 4 years from now, which means there will one student who genuinely deserved to go to a top-of-the-world college and won't because of someone they shouldn't have had to have competed against.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 08:32
Subject: 8th grader who is 15?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...
She is not more mature or advanced just older.
+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.
Maybe they are. Why should anyone care? It makes no difference for me and my kids. Why would it matter how another parent feels about their kids progress? It doesn’t impede anyone else. Such a bizarre thing to harp on.