Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:23
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
My issue is TJ already delayed the final decision till late May and they didn’t bother to verify the free meal status all this time.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:10
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is honestly a win-win.
If you answered the question literally and said yes - FCPS is removing the ambiguity and asking you the question again in a clear unambiguous manner. If you qualify, you are good. If you don’t, you are at par with everyone else who does not qualify as it should be. You may still qualify without the points but if you don’t- you miss out on a fair criterion.
If you answered no and felt wronged that others misinterpreted or misrepresented then you should feel good. You are at par with those who erroneously or otherwise answered no. So all is good.
FCPS did not have to create this roundabout process but their incompetence is a story for another day
Agreed - this will get the process much closer to a fair result. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a win-win, though. Still a lot to be desired with the process as a whole. And lots of unnecessary heartbreak for kids who were not admitted at first but later will be or vice versa.
Probably a good life lesson in there.
Life lesson here is to slack and be poor so that the government can give you more freebies or in the least show that you are poor on paper.
Is that really what you took away from this?
There are some really sh1tty people out there.
Yep. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who lied. And that's exactly what it was. However point remains. Message being sent is to slack and fight to show you are poor. I have seen this movie before in other countries. Doesn't end well.
Which countries?
IYKYK. I don't want to give more fodder to the unthinking haters. All I can say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So no countries. Got it. You’re full of sh1t.
Typical baseless histrionics.
I lived it. you can think what you want.
If it actually happened you’d easily be able to name these countries.
Fiction.
Belgium and The Netherlands
What did you interpret as “slack and be poor”?
How did it end badly?
Google it and find out. 1980s
Lazy.
But we don't have insights into your mind. You obviously have a distorted view of the world so we don't know what exactly you would interpret as that "message".
Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:06
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is honestly a win-win.
If you answered the question literally and said yes - FCPS is removing the ambiguity and asking you the question again in a clear unambiguous manner. If you qualify, you are good. If you don’t, you are at par with everyone else who does not qualify as it should be. You may still qualify without the points but if you don’t- you miss out on a fair criterion.
If you answered no and felt wronged that others misinterpreted or misrepresented then you should feel good. You are at par with those who erroneously or otherwise answered no. So all is good.
FCPS did not have to create this roundabout process but their incompetence is a story for another day
Agreed - this will get the process much closer to a fair result. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a win-win, though. Still a lot to be desired with the process as a whole. And lots of unnecessary heartbreak for kids who were not admitted at first but later will be or vice versa.
Probably a good life lesson in there.
Life lesson here is to slack and be poor so that the government can give you more freebies or in the least show that you are poor on paper.
Is that really what you took away from this?
There are some really sh1tty people out there.
Yep. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who lied. And that's exactly what it was. However point remains. Message being sent is to slack and fight to show you are poor. I have seen this movie before in other countries. Doesn't end well.
Which countries?
IYKYK. I don't want to give more fodder to the unthinking haters. All I can say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So no countries. Got it. You’re full of sh1t.
Typical baseless histrionics.
I lived it. you can think what you want.
If it actually happened you’d easily be able to name these countries.
Fiction.
If you had half a brain, you would be able to research and find out.
Research what exactly? PP clearly has a distorted mindset. It could have been anything that "sent that message".
Anonymous
06/07/2022 13:03
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Please God, now can we shut down TJ? Or change it to an academy where any student can take classes?
This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.
It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.
Study harder. Base school is more than sufficient for Ivy League. Stop asking for freebies.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:59
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:so why didn't TJ admissions ask for this information before? They are incompetent.
Maybe they falsely assumed families would answer ethically.
Right. I can’t believe that when people lie, they blame FCPS. It was very clear what that question was asking and to knowingly answer incorrectly is simply lying in hopes of getting an advantage over someone else.
Yep. I'm one of the posters who has had a huge issue with the 90 points for the ED experience factor. To me, it's not about whether Longfellow kids deserve to get in more than Whitman kids. It's about whether the cheating Longfellow kids deserve to get in over the honest Longfellow kids. The 90 point boost was huge for the higher SES kids in Carson or Longfellow who misrepresented their income. Good riddance that FCPS is finally fixing the issue, albeit in a late and embarrassingly incompetent way.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:56
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is honestly a win-win.
If you answered the question literally and said yes - FCPS is removing the ambiguity and asking you the question again in a clear unambiguous manner. If you qualify, you are good. If you don’t, you are at par with everyone else who does not qualify as it should be. You may still qualify without the points but if you don’t- you miss out on a fair criterion.
If you answered no and felt wronged that others misinterpreted or misrepresented then you should feel good. You are at par with those who erroneously or otherwise answered no. So all is good.
FCPS did not have to create this roundabout process but their incompetence is a story for another day
Agreed - this will get the process much closer to a fair result. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a win-win, though. Still a lot to be desired with the process as a whole. And lots of unnecessary heartbreak for kids who were not admitted at first but later will be or vice versa.
Probably a good life lesson in there.
Life lesson here is to slack and be poor so that the government can give you more freebies or in the least show that you are poor on paper.
Is that really what you took away from this?
There are some really sh1tty people out there.
Yep. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who lied. And that's exactly what it was. However point remains. Message being sent is to slack and fight to show you are poor. I have seen this movie before in other countries. Doesn't end well.
Which countries?
IYKYK. I don't want to give more fodder to the unthinking haters. All I can say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So no countries. Got it. You’re full of sh1t.
Typical baseless histrionics.
I lived it. you can think what you want.
If it actually happened you’d easily be able to name these countries.
Fiction.
Belgium and The Netherlands
What did you interpret as “slack and be poor”?
How did it end badly?
Google it and find out. 1980s
Lazy.
Do you want to compare their standard of living to ours?
+1000
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:55
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Please God, now can we shut down TJ? Or change it to an academy where any student can take classes?
This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.
It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.
This admissions fight will NEVER end. Full stop.
It’s doesn’t matter what the school board does or does not do, it’s a zero sum game and people will continue to fight each other to get a slice of very limited academic resources. Why make it that way? TJ sucks all of the oxygen out of the room. It divides people. There are no classes for 9th/10th graders that could not be taken at a base school. The other 99.9% of FCPS students deserve better.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:53
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:so why didn't TJ admissions ask for this information before? They are incompetent.
Maybe they falsely assumed families would answer ethically.
Right. I can’t believe that when people lie, they blame FCPS. It was very clear what that question was asking and to knowingly answer incorrectly is simply lying in hopes of getting an advantage over someone else.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:51
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:If prefer that TJ keep the cheaters vs return them to the base. Good riddance.
These kids are so competitive and toxic because they're willing to do lie or do anything to get what they want. I see your point.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:50
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gosh! No wonder cheating is so rampant at TJ when you have parents cheating the system to get their kids in.
Or, conversely, the system cheating the kids who most deserve admission to meet its soft race and income-based diversity quotas. Let's not forget one federal judge held the School Board violated the Constitution. All these parents may have done was take advantage of a loophole.
Two federal appellate judges disagreed. The students lied on a question they thought would never be verified and now all their supporters are up in arms because TJ is rescinding admission to unethical cheaters. They are lucky that TJ is doing it now and not formally expelling them a week into the school year.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:49
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gosh! No wonder cheating is so rampant at TJ when you have parents cheating the system to get their kids in.
Or, conversely, the system cheating the kids who most deserve admission to meet its soft race and income-based diversity quotas. Let's not forget one federal judge held the School Board violated the Constitution. All these parents may have done was take advantage of a loophole.
Both are cheating.
LOL most deserve it because they bought access to the test in advance? Give me a break. That isn't merit.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:49
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is honestly a win-win.
If you answered the question literally and said yes - FCPS is removing the ambiguity and asking you the question again in a clear unambiguous manner. If you qualify, you are good. If you don’t, you are at par with everyone else who does not qualify as it should be. You may still qualify without the points but if you don’t- you miss out on a fair criterion.
If you answered no and felt wronged that others misinterpreted or misrepresented then you should feel good. You are at par with those who erroneously or otherwise answered no. So all is good.
FCPS did not have to create this roundabout process but their incompetence is a story for another day
Agreed - this will get the process much closer to a fair result. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a win-win, though. Still a lot to be desired with the process as a whole. And lots of unnecessary heartbreak for kids who were not admitted at first but later will be or vice versa.
Probably a good life lesson in there.
Life lesson here is to slack and be poor so that the government can give you more freebies or in the least show that you are poor on paper.
Is that really what you took away from this?
There are some really sh1tty people out there.
Yep. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who lied. And that's exactly what it was. However point remains. Message being sent is to slack and fight to show you are poor. I have seen this movie before in other countries. Doesn't end well.
Which countries?
IYKYK. I don't want to give more fodder to the unthinking haters. All I can say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So no countries. Got it. You’re full of sh1t.
Typical baseless histrionics.
I lived it. you can think what you want.
If it actually happened you’d easily be able to name these countries.
Fiction.
Belgium and The Netherlands
What did you interpret as “slack and be poor”?
How did it end badly?
Google it and find out. 1980s
Lazy.
Do you want to compare their standard of living to ours?
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:40
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
If prefer that TJ keep the cheaters vs return them to the base. Good riddance.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:35
Subject: Re:TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gosh! No wonder cheating is so rampant at TJ when you have parents cheating the system to get their kids in.
Or, conversely, the system cheating the kids who most deserve admission to meet its soft race and income-based diversity quotas. Let's not forget one federal judge held the School Board violated the Constitution. All these parents may have done was take advantage of a loophole.
Both are cheating.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 12:34
Subject: TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is honestly a win-win.
If you answered the question literally and said yes - FCPS is removing the ambiguity and asking you the question again in a clear unambiguous manner. If you qualify, you are good. If you don’t, you are at par with everyone else who does not qualify as it should be. You may still qualify without the points but if you don’t- you miss out on a fair criterion.
If you answered no and felt wronged that others misinterpreted or misrepresented then you should feel good. You are at par with those who erroneously or otherwise answered no. So all is good.
FCPS did not have to create this roundabout process but their incompetence is a story for another day
Agreed - this will get the process much closer to a fair result. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a win-win, though. Still a lot to be desired with the process as a whole. And lots of unnecessary heartbreak for kids who were not admitted at first but later will be or vice versa.
Probably a good life lesson in there.
Life lesson here is to slack and be poor so that the government can give you more freebies or in the least show that you are poor on paper.
Is that really what you took away from this?
There are some really sh1tty people out there.
Yep. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who lied. And that's exactly what it was. However point remains. Message being sent is to slack and fight to show you are poor. I have seen this movie before in other countries. Doesn't end well.
Which countries?
IYKYK. I don't want to give more fodder to the unthinking haters. All I can say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
So no countries. Got it. You’re full of sh1t.
Typical baseless histrionics.
I lived it. you can think what you want.
If it actually happened you’d easily be able to name these countries.
Fiction.
If you had half a brain, you would be able to research and find out.
I just don't want to get into an argument with people whose intent is to troll/hate but not learn.