Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:57
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .
Yee haw!
You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.
Did you go to public school, PP?
DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.
It’s actually on point. We, as American taxpayers, fully fund public school education from k thru 12 for the betterment of our society. Those of us comparing public school with daycare are exactly on point. Why public school and not daycare? It’s outdated thinking to say education starts at five. Learning starts at birth.
It’s a very apt comparison, PP. Even if you don’t send your kids to public school, you’re still paying for it.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:52
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.
There aren’t enough “means” to live within when you’re a daycare teacher. Minimum wage and all the colds you can catch.
Talking about parents who are complaining childcare should be subsidized.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:44
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .
Yee haw!
You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.
Did you go to public school, PP?
DP but nope we sure don't. Posting the same question in bad faith about public school over and over again doesn't change that, unfortunately.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:34
Subject: Re:How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:There are very few ways to improve the childcare crisis. Young children need care and close supervision. They go to school around age 5. Until this time, you have to fork over money to pay for their care. The good news is that it’s for a short period of time.
Everyone thinks European parental leave is so great but really they are just paying women an extremely low wage to stay home with kids. The media or even Europeans talk about their “fully paid leave,” but rarely disclose that the max you can even get is $200-300 a week. Who wants to stay home for an entire year with a baby for $20k? This is a great deal if you were already planning to SAH, but it’s hardly a panacea and comical that American women are jealous of this benefit. No thanks.
You forgot the other aspect - job protection. I would have been thrilled for a year of job protection and $20k! Plus it's a long enough vacancy that they actually hire temps, which keeps coworkers from being as overwhelmed and gives entry level people more opportunities in my field. Sounds good!
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:29
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If benefits paid for by the taxpayer are used to pay for others' childcare, then it should only be granted for the first child. You cannot have taxpayers continue to pay for your responsibility for additional children. Plan on having one child or plan on saving a lot of money for any future children.
Why not? We all pay for the entire education of a child in public school regardless of how many kids you have. That’s 13 years minimum. Why does education start at 5 when learning starts from birth?
Seriously, I’m a SAHM but I don’t get why early learning and daycare isn’t regulated (college educated teachers) and subsidized. We don’t want a dumb populace and the first five years are the most important for brain development and intelligence
Presumably, you are well educated but judging from your post, you are still dumber than a fence post. Parents are supposed to teach their children before they go to kindergarten. I knew the alphabet and could count to 20 by age four and I am not a Sheldon Cooper but I had parents who taught us at home. You are a SAHM so why aren't you teaching your children?
The issue with child care is many are play based, not academic based. As a SAHM, I worked daily with my kids starting at age 2. Come age 4, we put ours in an academic preschool to prep them for K. Made an easy transition.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:25
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If benefits paid for by the taxpayer are used to pay for others' childcare, then it should only be granted for the first child. You cannot have taxpayers continue to pay for your responsibility for additional children. Plan on having one child or plan on saving a lot of money for any future children.
Why not? We all pay for the entire education of a child in public school regardless of how many kids you have. That’s 13 years minimum. Why does education start at 5 when learning starts from birth?
Seriously, I’m a SAHM but I don’t get why early learning and daycare isn’t regulated (college educated teachers) and subsidized. We don’t want a dumb populace and the first five years are the most important for brain development and intelligence
Presumably, you are well educated but judging from your post, you are still dumber than a fence post. Parents are supposed to teach their children before they go to kindergarten. I knew the alphabet and could count to 20 by age four and I am not a Sheldon Cooper but I had parents who taught us at home. You are a SAHM so why aren't you teaching your children?
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:18
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.
Yes! It won’t happen, but YES.
What world do you live in? Daycare teachers make minimum wage. How do you live with that in DC? This is why we can’t keep daycare caregivers.
My daughter worked in a day care center last summer and she told me the tantrums of children and screaming antics of parents that she understood why the turnover was so great. So with the low pay and horrid parents working in a day care center is only a stopgap job. Who can blame them.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 22:17
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
You do not become "special" when you have a kid. You do not became "special" when you buy a house.
Why don't all those parents pay for my house while I pay for their kid? Parents should be demanding they pay for other's people's responsibilities.
Got a kid? Pay for it yourself, or don't have one.
Got a house? Same thing.
350 million people in the US. Plentry of jobs. Stop asking for free stuff.
Why don't all those parents pay for my house while I pay for their kid? Parents should be demanding they pay for other's people's responsibilities.
Got a kid? Pay for it yourself, or don't have one.
Got a house? Same thing.
350 million people in the US. Plentry of jobs. Stop asking for free stuff.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:32
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.
Yes! It won’t happen, but YES.
What world do you live in? Daycare teachers make minimum wage. How do you live with that in DC? This is why we can’t keep daycare caregivers.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:30
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.
Yes! It won’t happen, but YES.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:24
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The insane waitlists for daycare.
The nanny shortage.
The lack of parental leave.
What can reasonably be done to even take a step in the right direction?
Stay home and you take care of your children. I did. Why can't you?
Since you're fundamentally uninterested in recognizing any problem here, you might want to move along from this discussion.
There is no problem. Your children are not my problem or concern. What is it about this that none of you understand?
Ah a isolationist! You exist only in this world alone- is the correct? Nothing about how other people's children are raised or cared for impacts our society? Employment doesnt impact our society? Do you and your children not live in society? Do you understand what happens when there is no middle class or do you just hope to be on the rich side of that divide?
Your kids are your responsibility. There is zero reason you should be entitled to free child care. No, your employment doesn't impact society. Real middle class get child care help in this area. The problem are rich people claming to be middle class living in million dollar homes who expect hand outs.
Thank you! I'm so tired of the whining from the UMC meanwhile you find out their retirement + stock accounts are fat and flush. Give me a break.
I will never, as long as I live, forget the woman on DCUM during 2020 who threw the largest ongoing adult temper tantrum I have ever seen, with multiple furious, bile-spewing responses, who claimed she NEEDED THE SCHOOLS OPEN RIGHT NOW I DON’T CARE NOW NOW NOW because she “couldn’t afford childcare” while she worked. She blew an everloving gasket when she revealed that she had a several thousand dollar European vacation fund and people suggested she use that for childcare.
It's weird that you are very opposed to subsidizing childcare but you were fine with your tax dollars paying for schools that were closed to students, all to stick it to some anonymous woman on the internet. What a consistent and reasoned fiscal policy.
They weren’t “closed.” Services were provided. You didn’t like them, but that’s too damn bad.
Handing out only sh!t sandwiches does not equal feeding people. It has been made very clear that prolonged school closures with virtual teaching (NOT learning) was catastrophic to women in the workforce in addition to students suffering. That cannot be ignored.
Childcare shouldn’t be subsidized (with rare poverty exception) because certain classes of people decided to stick it Trump by not returning to work in the pandemic.
I know you’ll throw a screaming fit, but the schools’ responsibility is to educate (which yes, they did in a pandemic, whether you liked it or agreed with it or not), not to house your kids for you so you can work, at all times and under all circumstances. That may have been a byproduct that people came to incorrectly rely upon, but it is not the purpose of public education. Sorry.
Sweet Jesus. The fact that I have to explain that there have been dozen and dozens of reports and studies showing catastrophic learning loss from school closures proves an education was NOT provided. You may have been yammering into zoom or simply phoning it in, but kids weren’t getting educated and it caused a child care crisis.
And yes housing students in building called schools built with public funds is part of public education.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:11
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.
Thank you.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:09
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Free free free. I want everything for me. I am a parent and you owe me that .
Yee haw!
You actually do owe me. We have no future without children.
Did you go to public school, PP?
No,we don’t “owe you” a damn thing. You didn’t have your kids out of altruism. You had them because you wanted them.
And no one owed you a free public education but they gave you one. It’s supposedly for the betterment of our country (failed with you however).
Yes, I did, just as kids do now. From age 5. Before that, MY PARENTS paid for childcare. We are not talking about public school, no matter how much you desperately attempt to deflect. Keep up.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:06
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:We could start by teaching people to live within their means.
This.
Anonymous
06/04/2022 20:06
Subject: How can we improve the childcare crisis?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The insane waitlists for daycare.
The nanny shortage.
The lack of parental leave.
What can reasonably be done to even take a step in the right direction?
Stay home and you take care of your children. I did. Why can't you?
Since you're fundamentally uninterested in recognizing any problem here, you might want to move along from this discussion.
There is no problem. Your children are not my problem or concern. What is it about this that none of you understand?
Ah a isolationist! You exist only in this world alone- is the correct? Nothing about how other people's children are raised or cared for impacts our society? Employment doesnt impact our society? Do you and your children not live in society? Do you understand what happens when there is no middle class or do you just hope to be on the rich side of that divide?
Your kids are your responsibility. There is zero reason you should be entitled to free child care. No, your employment doesn't impact society. Real middle class get child care help in this area. The problem are rich people claming to be middle class living in million dollar homes who expect hand outs.
Thank you! I'm so tired of the whining from the UMC meanwhile you find out their retirement + stock accounts are fat and flush. Give me a break.
I will never, as long as I live, forget the woman on DCUM during 2020 who threw the largest ongoing adult temper tantrum I have ever seen, with multiple furious, bile-spewing responses, who claimed she NEEDED THE SCHOOLS OPEN RIGHT NOW I DON’T CARE NOW NOW NOW because she “couldn’t afford childcare” while she worked. She blew an everloving gasket when she revealed that she had a several thousand dollar European vacation fund and people suggested she use that for childcare.
It's weird that you are very opposed to subsidizing childcare but you were fine with your tax dollars paying for schools that were closed to students, all to stick it to some anonymous woman on the internet. What a consistent and reasoned fiscal policy.
They weren’t “closed.” Services were provided. You didn’t like them, but that’s too damn bad.
Handing out only sh!t sandwiches does not equal feeding people. It has been made very clear that prolonged school closures with virtual teaching (NOT learning) was catastrophic to women in the workforce in addition to students suffering. That cannot be ignored.
Childcare shouldn’t be subsidized (with rare poverty exception) because certain classes of people decided to stick it Trump by not returning to work in the pandemic.
I know you’ll throw a screaming fit, but the schools’ responsibility is to educate (which yes, they did in a pandemic, whether you liked it or agreed with it or not), not to house your kids for you so you can work, at all times and under all circumstances. That may have been a byproduct that people came to incorrectly rely upon, but it is not the purpose of public education. Sorry.