Anonymous
05/18/2022 13:38
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
This is a lie.
Is there a link to the actual manifesto?
I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.
Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed
I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.
How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.
We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.
What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).
We know for a fact that he said he was not a conservative but rather a socialist. And that he blamed Ben Shapiro, a right winger, as being in on the conspiracy. You guys are really cherry picking.
I don't know where this Ben Shapiro stuff is coming from. Shapiro is not mentioned at all in the manifesto. He did not say he was a socialist. That is a misrepresentations of what he wrote. Here is how he describes his views:
"But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you."
He clearly aligns himself with Nazis and fascists. All of the people who he describes himself as admiring are right-wingers who hate the left.
Also, keep in mind that this guy is not a brilliant political thinker. He is an idiot who is obsessed with right-wing mass killers and who admits to being influenced primarily by 4Chan memes. I don't think many liberals are being groomed on 4Chan.
So he is into trees and white supremacy? Didn’t think of that Venn diagram.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 13:30
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
I'm sympathetic to this view that discussing demographic shifts in terms of data and statistics should not be criticized. I agree that attributing fears to the shift is problematic. But what about attributing hope to the shift? I feel that these are flip sides of the same coin. For someone to be happy about a different demographic mix in the future must mean they view the current mix to be inferior in comparison.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 13:27
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
Only racists see the country as White Americans vs. everyone else who are deemed as lesser Americans or not Americans. White nationals are less concerned about the number of minorities than about keeping them in a subservient place. White supremacists don’t want America to be all white, they just want Blacks and Hispanics to be an underclass of laborers and servants with few rights. They want the old Jim Crow racist police state.
PP here, I agree that's a racist attitude, but what about the reverse: the celebration of the declining white population and voicing hope for the oncoming political/ideology shift that it would usher in. BTW, I'm Asian and I agree that the demographic shift is coming, I just don't believe it's something to be feared or celebrated - both attitudes appear racist in nature to me. From a culture/politics perspective, I believe the fear felt by white supremacists is unfounded, and so is the hope felt by progressives for Democrats to never lose an election again.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 13:05
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
Only racists see the country as White Americans vs. everyone else who are deemed as lesser Americans or not Americans. White nationals are less concerned about the number of minorities than about keeping them in a subservient place. White supremacists don’t want America to be all white, they just want Blacks and Hispanics to be an underclass of laborers and servants with few rights. They want the old Jim Crow racist police state.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 13:00
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
It's de facto not a "theory," if you're just rationally talking about data and statistics.
It becomes a "theory" when you try to attribute malice and blame to the changing data. And even worse, when you try to "stop the change"...presumably through murder and deportation of American citizens.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:54
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
This has already been answered multiple times. Go back and reread the thread.
jsteele
05/18/2022 12:51
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
This is a lie.
Is there a link to the actual manifesto?
I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.
Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed
I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.
How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.
We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.
What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).
We know for a fact that he said he was not a conservative but rather a socialist. And that he blamed Ben Shapiro, a right winger, as being in on the conspiracy. You guys are really cherry picking.
I don't know where this Ben Shapiro stuff is coming from. Shapiro is not mentioned at all in the manifesto. He did not say he was a socialist. That is a misrepresentations of what he wrote. Here is how he describes his views:
"But you can call me an ethno-nationalist eco-fascist national socialist if you want, I wouldn’t disagree with you."
He clearly aligns himself with Nazis and fascists. All of the people who he describes himself as admiring are right-wingers who hate the left.
Also, keep in mind that this guy is not a brilliant political thinker. He is an idiot who is obsessed with right-wing mass killers and who admits to being influenced primarily by 4Chan memes. I don't think many liberals are being groomed on 4Chan.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:49
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Serious question: what's the approved DCUM view about replacement theory, is it just right-wing fear and white supremacy, or does it also include the well-established and often touted fact that the US population is quickly moving towards being primarily minorities.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:44
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Republicans aren’t going to examine their white supremacy no matter how many people get killed in service to their hateful ideology.
+1
It's too inconvenient to acknowledge.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:43
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Republicans aren’t going to examine their white supremacy no matter how many people get killed in service to their hateful ideology.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:42
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
This is a lie.
Is there a link to the actual manifesto?
I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.
Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed
I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.
How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.
We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.
What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).
We know for a fact that he said he was not a conservative but rather a socialist. And that he blamed Ben Shapiro, a right winger, as being in on the conspiracy. You guys are really cherry picking.
I said "we do know he shares similar views" to many conservatives. Which is true. And those views are what drove him to kill 10 people.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 12:25
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
This is a lie.
Is there a link to the actual manifesto?
I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.
Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed
I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.
How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.
We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.
What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).
We know for a fact that he said he was not a conservative but rather a socialist. And that he blamed Ben Shapiro, a right winger, as being in on the conspiracy. You guys are really cherry picking.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:55
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
This is a lie.
Is there a link to the actual manifesto?
I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.
Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed
I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.
How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.
Replacement theory is now apparently main stream.
Bruh, it's not. It is true that everyone acknowledges that demographics and politics are correlated and that demographic changes usually lead to political changes. That is not the same as wanting to keep the US white.
This has been explained multiple times. Go back and re-read the thread before you post more nonsense.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:54
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:
This is a lie.
Is there a link to the actual manifesto?
I have a copy but it is no longer available from where I got it. The manifesto does not mention Fox News a single time. Nor does it mention Ben Shapiro. Nor does it say that he is a vegan.
Why is it no longer available? I’ve looked myself and it’s been scrubbed
I’m assuming it’s because they don’t want to propagate RWNJ killers. This guy was inspired by the NZ killer’s manifesto.
How can he be right wing? He's a vegan socialist who worries about the climate. Yet, it would be disingenuous to call him a D, either. This guy does not occupy any space on the mainstream political spectrum.
We have no idea who he'd vote for in the next election, or if he'd even vote at all.
What we do know is that he shares some similar views to extremist right-wing conservatives (Unite the Right, Pittsburgh synagogue shooter) and also some mainstream conservatives (Carlson, Ingraham, Elise Stefanik, JD Vance, Blake Masters, Ron Johnson, Eric Greitens, Schmitt, etc.).
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:44
Subject: When will Rs admit their 'great replacement' conspiracy is a national security threat?
Real estate thug*