Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have you ever thought about whether you should make yourself more attractive, better in bed etc. so she didn't feel that way? Sometimes it's the wife but you should make sure it's not you. Also, cheating is unforgivable, good luck living with yourself
--wife who doesn't treat sex as a chore
This. Husbands can let themselves go, never do anything romantic, and be lousy in bed. But then they get angry when we won’t fall down on our backs like they are sex gods.![]()
Stop with this fantasy that good husbands are showered with sex and only bad husbands go wanting. Husbands can also be perfectly good people, not become hideous, treat their wife and family well, and still not be the object of their wife's sexual desire.
I don’t agree.
The common thread I have seen on DCUM is a husband wants to have more sex than his wife and so he wants his wife to change to accommodate that. How often are women told we can’t change men?
Here’s what worked for me, and the only thing I’ve seen work among my peers:
Make your marriage a place where your wife’s sexuality is treated as a family priority. Proper recovery after childbirth (this is where Everyone I Know who stopped sleeping with her husband has a common factor: Insufficient recovery support), enough rest— physical but also mental, no one wants to switch gears from planning all the summer camp to going down on their husband— dedicated time for exercise in a format that she finds enjoyable, vacations where she isn’t the cruise director and she is as much “on vacation” as everyone else, not squeezed into a house with 13 other people while FIL waits for her to wash dishes.
And here’s the thing— that might mean making changes. That might mean the husband says no to vacations with his parents or starts waking up early on Saturday to take the kids to swim lessons. That’s ok. It’s ok to make changes to support a lifestyle you want. But people like the OP want to keep everything the same and expect the wife to suddenly want sex with him, while he’s clearly not putting in the minimum if he has time for affairs.
— wife who has sex with her wife 2x week and 2x day on vacations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this means sex is more important than honesty for the cheater and therefore it's a values issue with a cheater, not a sex issue. If it were sex issue, they would divorce instead of cheating.
everything is about sex, except sex itself ... just keep that in mind ... you do lots of things just to get laid, spend time, money, lie, whatever it takes, but in the end sex is about how it makes you feel, almost like any drug
And for men apparently that is some sort of dopamine fix whereas for women it's a sense of security as well as high intensity. I get the feeling that the calmness and security from a partner to them isn't a transaction they feel or care about.
Nah, it's dopamine for us too. Sorry to disappoint.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this means sex is more important than honesty for the cheater and therefore it's a values issue with a cheater, not a sex issue. If it were sex issue, they would divorce instead of cheating.
everything is about sex, except sex itself ... just keep that in mind ... you do lots of things just to get laid, spend time, money, lie, whatever it takes, but in the end sex is about how it makes you feel, almost like any drug
And for men apparently that is some sort of dopamine fix whereas for women it's a sense of security as well as high intensity. I get the feeling that the calmness and security from a partner to them isn't a transaction they feel or care about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this means sex is more important than honesty for the cheater and therefore it's a values issue with a cheater, not a sex issue. If it were sex issue, they would divorce instead of cheating.
everything is about sex, except sex itself ... just keep that in mind ... you do lots of things just to get laid, spend time, money, lie, whatever it takes, but in the end sex is about how it makes you feel, almost like any drug
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think this means sex is more important than honesty for the cheater and therefore it's a values issue with a cheater, not a sex issue. If it were sex issue, they would divorce instead of cheating.
everything is about sex, except sex itself ... just keep that in mind ... you do lots of things just to get laid, spend time, money, lie, whatever it takes, but in the end sex is about how it makes you feel, almost like any drug