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Anonymous wrote:Full resume complete with gpa, APs, and test scores. All ECs, sports, volunteer work, employment, awards etc.

Recs vary but usually a rec from a “sister” of as many houses as you can find even if they’re 50 years old.

100% do not recommend for any girl who has any amount of anxiety or depression.

A pox on you! Signed, a sorority sister

Anonymous wrote:Full resume complete with gpa, APs, and test scores. All ECs, sports, volunteer work, employment, awards etc.

Recs vary but usually a rec from a “sister” of as many houses as you can find even if they’re 50 years old.

100% do not recommend for any girl who has any amount of anxiety or depression.

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Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.

This.. Sorority rush is VOLUNTARY. There is self selection in all groups in college, sororities or not. Not sure if rush is anymore cruel than trying out for a team and being cut?

Uh yeah it is because trying out for a team is based on your ability to play the sport. Not to mention college teams generally don’t charge their athletes to play.

The NESCACS charge 80 grand a year

They charge rich kids 80 grand a year. And I repeat, I can’t name a d1 or d2 or d3 school that charges their varsity (non-club) athletes specifically to play on a team.

Maybe the varsity goalpost movers?

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Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.

This.. Sorority rush is VOLUNTARY. There is self selection in all groups in college, sororities or not. Not sure if rush is anymore cruel than trying out for a team and being cut?

Uh yeah it is because trying out for a team is based on your ability to play the sport. Not to mention college teams generally don’t charge their athletes to play.

The NESCACS charge 80 grand a year

They charge rich kids 80 grand a year. And I repeat, I can’t name a d1 or d2 or d3 school that charges their varsity (non-club) athletes specifically to play on a team.

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Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.

This.. Sorority rush is VOLUNTARY. There is self selection in all groups in college, sororities or not. Not sure if rush is anymore cruel than trying out for a team and being cut?

Uh yeah it is because trying out for a team is based on your ability to play the sport. Not to mention college teams generally don’t charge their athletes to play.

The NESCACS charge 80 grand a year

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an alumni of a big state school sorority. I am also a former national officer. The "rec letter" is now an online form. It helps, but really only to get invited back to the second day. What is most important is your daughter's grades and extracurricular activities and volunteering. There are enough party girls going through recruitment and what sororities want are well rounded women who aren't going to flunk out. The biggest reason people get "cut" is grades and attitude. My cousin is a 4.0 honors student, in one or two activities. But her social skills are that of an elementary school student. she can't make small talk and she has a hard time engaging others in conversation. She was cut even during spring rush and even with my rec letter and my good friends. So it's not all about connections.

My parents were first generation college students and I'm from a blue collar, working class background. I had decent grades and a lot of leadership activities. My dad's law partners wrote letters of rec and I had a lot of older friends in different sororities. The sororities I liked most were not these ones. I found one that was more diverse and inclusive and more welcoming.

For people saying that sororities are not inclusive, you are full of it. I went to a southern state school. My sorority in the 1990s had Black, Asian and Latina women. Several of my pledge sisters were openly LGBTQIA. We had Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, atheists, politically conservative and progressive. Socially conservative and free spirits. Athletic women, artistic women, women who love to volunteer, party girls, slackers, etc.

The best thing about a sorority is the networking. When I moved to a new place and started my professional career, it helped me immensley. I met a lot of my best friends from my sorority. Sure there were a few "mean girls" but the majority of the women in my sorority were awesome: an Olympic athlete, patented a medical device, started a nonprofit, started a small business, etc. All while college students. I worked two jobs while paying for college on my own. Sororities are way more affordable than the dorms or apartments at big state schools. I had parking and a safe clean place to live. I loved it!

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Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.

This.. Sorority rush is VOLUNTARY. There is self selection in all groups in college, sororities or not. Not sure if rush is anymore cruel than trying out for a team and being cut?

Uh yeah it is because trying out for a team is based on your ability to play the sport. Not to mention college teams generally don’t charge their athletes to play.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

Since when are people NOT judged on these things?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it sort of hilarious that DCUM loves asking about how to dress WASPy and what and what isn't classy, and how to appear upper class, but loses its mind when faced with the prospect of sorority recruitment because it's too white and too elitist. Ya'll better pull the mote out of your own eye.

The same people who like greek life as it is are the ones who want to look ''classy.''

No. People who are in sororities don't need to ask an anonymous message board how to dress, act, network or decorate. Sororities do an excellent job providing this training.

Awesome! More young women should be allowed into sororities, then. We could all use that training.

Every NPC rush in the country guarantees a bid for every young woman who completes recruitment. It may not be a bid to her first choice, but everyone gets a bid. Placement rates at even the most competitive campuses is over 90%. Many of the people who don't get bids drop out early because they don't like the choices they have left. It's not that the sororities cut young women. It's that young women cut sororities because they had their heart set on a "top tier" sorority and didn't get invited back and weren't willing to accept a bid from a "lesser" sorority.

don't know about NPC but I do know that there are absolutely schools that guarantee a bid if you continue through the rush process and don't suicide bid. As PP noted, the problem is that many girls drop out simply because they got cut by the "popular" houses. Also, once cut, if the girl drops out of rush, she's eligible for COB (continuous open bidding) and even heard of girls getting into houses that dropped them during formal rush. SO the net net, is there is room for everyone who is interested, but the girls have to be just as open minded as you want the houses to be and not have pre-conceived notions about a particular house because it's not "top tier" (which is again meaningless and those are not really the best houses just the most popular)

You keep blaming girls for wanting “top tier” and “popular” houses but if there are 13 houses and a girl gets one bid at the end of the week that’s literally the only one the girl didn’t want, you’re telling her to take it, or she’s an ungrateful snob. You grown women who support this bs are horrendous. Blaming 18 year old girls who want to find a place to belong for not wanting one house as of this is THIER problem. There are 12 houses they would have been happy with. If they don’t end up with three houses to pick from on the last night, that’s on YOU. Organize a more humane rush or quit pretending it has anything to do with “matching”.

Calm down. NO ONE is telling the girls they are ungrateful snobs but YOU. Just people said that sororities are difficult to get into or exclusionary and that's not 100% true. there ARE houses you can get into. Whether or not the girl wants it, is her choice entirely, but people on this board make it seem that 1000 girls rush and 200 get in. In reality, 1000 may rush, 400 probably drop out and the rest find a home.

That's 40% that dropped/didn't get a house they wanted. That's not a few people don't find a house

But my point is how do they know those houses are the places they should be? They dropped before even getting to know them, which is honestly just like the houses dropping the girls at the first cut. but regardless again, it's a tough process and yeah some people hate it. Some enjoy it. No need to get yourself all in a huff about it. If your DD doesn't want to rush, she shouldn't. If she does, I'm just trying to give the advice to get to know the houses that you have left even if you have a painful cut.

Everyone should be grateful that the reject house offers them a bid- got it.

Judgmental much? My DS is pledging a "low tier" fraternity, which is the only one he targeted to rush. He is not a reject, he CHOOSE this house and did not consider any others.

You missed the entire context of PP’s post. Your son happily matched. That’s not what this conversation is about.

well according to the PP, my DS is a reject. You ladies aren't necessarily making a positive case for yourself.

We’re actually not talking about fraternities at all. They have a completely different rush system which is generally more humane, more authentic, and much less emotionally charged. My DD who hated rush wished sorority rush was like the fraternities.

Are you for real? Have you seen the hazing in frats?

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Maybe they dropped because they realized how cruel and ridiculous the process is. Being judged based on what you wear, how you look, how much money your parents make, etc is cruel and mean.

and that is fine. They are not required to rush nor continue rushing.

This.. Sorority rush is VOLUNTARY. There is self selection in all groups in college, sororities or not. Not sure if rush is anymore cruel than trying out for a team and being cut?