Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:45     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I think the football player means in their analysis of God is that they are letting God lead their lives in that moment. They are believing in themselves and using word of God that they are special in god's eyes and can do good and don't need to fear. Not that God is directing the football or their arm physically.

When destruction and abuse hits I think most people, well most normal people, attribute that to Satan's influence in the world. People channeling satan for actions or just the world being fallen and a place of suffering.


God, I hope not -- It sounds pretty abnormal to me.


its not. It's just the bad part of human nature and the idea that our world is an ever changing planet. Not something reliable. So either trauma in the world is attributed to nature or to abuse by humans. What is so abnormal about that?


By this line of thinking, then we should also attribute blessings to human nature and the world. You can’t have it both ways…
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:43     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's called divine intervention. I've thought it weird too when people keep thinking God is directing the world in such a direct way and we are only spectators. Most people think God is within us but not directing our daily lives. Kind of like Jiminy Cricket on things that are part of God's plan, not football games, but we have free will. I find it weird when people see destruction and say that must have been god's will or they see they were able to get a sale and say that god somehow intervened in their lives and them going on Tuesday instead of Wednesday was some sort of divine intervention rather than luck.


People like to feel special, so when something good happens, perhaps they like to attribute it to knowing the right people and being in good with the big guy - i.e., God.


And if you follow that to its logical end, something bad happened to the other guy(s) because they're not in God's good graces, and therefore must be bad? It must be pretty easy to vilify say poor people, because if they were on God's good side, then they wouldn't be poor. I mean, we can explain a lot of what goes around us, in terms of the lack of social support structures, especially in the more god fearing part of the country, if you look at it this way.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:42     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's called divine intervention. I've thought it weird too when people keep thinking God is directing the world in such a direct way and we are only spectators. Most people think God is within us but not directing our daily lives. Kind of like Jiminy Cricket on things that are part of God's plan, not football games, but we have free will. I find it weird when people see destruction and say that must have been god's will or they see they were able to get a sale and say that god somehow intervened in their lives and them going on Tuesday instead of Wednesday was some sort of divine intervention rather than luck.


People like to feel special, so when something good happens, perhaps they like to attribute it to knowing the right people and being in good with the big guy - i.e., God.


That would be the ego, but on the positive side of the ego they feel they are channeling the good in them. The negative side of the ego would be that they are channeling the bad in them. In a football game this could go either way mentally.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:40     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I think the football player means in their analysis of God is that they are letting God lead their lives in that moment. They are believing in themselves and using word of God that they are special in god's eyes and can do good and don't need to fear. Not that God is directing the football or their arm physically.

When destruction and abuse hits I think most people, well most normal people, attribute that to Satan's influence in the world. People channeling satan for actions or just the world being fallen and a place of suffering.


God, I hope not -- It sounds pretty abnormal to me.


its not. It's just the bad part of human nature and the idea that our world is an ever changing planet. Not something reliable. So either trauma in the world is attributed to nature or to abuse by humans. What is so abnormal about that?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:31     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:It's called divine intervention. I've thought it weird too when people keep thinking God is directing the world in such a direct way and we are only spectators. Most people think God is within us but not directing our daily lives. Kind of like Jiminy Cricket on things that are part of God's plan, not football games, but we have free will. I find it weird when people see destruction and say that must have been god's will or they see they were able to get a sale and say that god somehow intervened in their lives and them going on Tuesday instead of Wednesday was some sort of divine intervention rather than luck.


People like to feel special, so when something good happens, perhaps they like to attribute it to knowing the right people and being in good with the big guy - i.e., God.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:28     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:What I think the football player means in their analysis of God is that they are letting God lead their lives in that moment. They are believing in themselves and using word of God that they are special in god's eyes and can do good and don't need to fear. Not that God is directing the football or their arm physically.

When destruction and abuse hits I think most people, well most normal people, attribute that to Satan's influence in the world. People channeling satan for actions or just the world being fallen and a place of suffering.


God, I hope not -- It sounds pretty abnormal to me.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 13:03     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
What I think the football player means in their analysis of God is that they are letting God lead their lives in that moment. They are believing in themselves and using word of God that they are special in god's eyes and can do good and don't need to fear. Not that God is directing the football or their arm physically.

When destruction and abuse hits I think most people, well most normal people, attribute that to Satan's influence in the world. People channeling satan for actions or just the world being fallen and a place of suffering.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 12:51     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:It's called divine intervention. I've thought it weird too when people keep thinking God is directing the world in such a direct way and we are only spectators. Most people think God is within us but not directing our daily lives. Kind of like Jiminy Cricket on things that are part of God's plan, not football games, but we have free will. I find it weird when people see destruction and say that must have been god's will or they see they were able to get a sale and say that god somehow intervened in their lives and them going on Tuesday instead of Wednesday was some sort of divine intervention rather than luck.


I've asked this question to many faithful people btw PP and what they've told me is that a lot of people really want to feel connected to god in a direct way I guess after putting a lot of effort into religion so they align their actions as being more aligned with his. It's a fallacy in at least in my view because per the teaching I've learned we are supposed to grow closer to god, not the other way around, where god somehow keeps manifesting in our lives to mirror our own behavior. We keep changing to be more godlike. He doesn't need to keep performing miracles in he world for football games.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 12:48     Subject: Re:What makes you think God cares?
It's called divine intervention. I've thought it weird too when people keep thinking God is directing the world in such a direct way and we are only spectators. Most people think God is within us but not directing our daily lives. Kind of like Jiminy Cricket on things that are part of God's plan, not football games, but we have free will. I find it weird when people see destruction and say that must have been god's will or they see they were able to get a sale and say that god somehow intervened in their lives and them going on Tuesday instead of Wednesday was some sort of divine intervention rather than luck.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 11:07     Subject: What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I always wonder about how some athletes act like god somehow is invested in the outcome of their games. God’s too busy to do something about little kids being killed by a despot, but wants to be there to make sure that his team scores touchdowns? It’s all so bizarre.


Assuming God exists, he's never too busy to help out. He's almighty, after all -- supposedly listening to multiple prayers in multiple languages at the same time and responding positively to some of them.


So it's not that God is too busy with important things when he ignores pleas of help from the poor, the sick, the abused, he's busy doing trivial things like making sure his team scores a TD or makes that three pointer? This dude sounds even less deserving of worship than I thought earlier.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2022 10:59     Subject: What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:I always wonder about how some athletes act like god somehow is invested in the outcome of their games. God’s too busy to do something about little kids being killed by a despot, but wants to be there to make sure that his team scores touchdowns? It’s all so bizarre.


Assuming God exists, he's never too busy to help out. He's almighty, after all -- supposedly listening to multiple prayers in multiple languages at the same time and responding positively to some of them.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2022 20:57     Subject: What makes you think God cares?
I always wonder about how some athletes act like god somehow is invested in the outcome of their games. God’s too busy to do something about little kids being killed by a despot, but wants to be there to make sure that his team scores touchdowns? It’s all so bizarre.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 10:20     Subject: What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not asking if it exists or not, just does it cares?


If God doesn't exist how can it care? lol


Because the assumption is that God does exist, while the question is, does this existing God care about the people living here on earth


Sure doesn't seem like it. Sometimes prayers are answered (proving to believers that God is listening and favors them) and sometimes they're not - proving to believers that their prayer wasn't worthy or that God was busy with something else, or some other reason for God not responding.

God wins either way, with humans making all kinds of excuses for him, no matter what. Why? perhaps because if you believe, God sends you to heaven when you die and if you don't -- you go to hell.

Not much of a choice - if you believe it.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 08:24     Subject: What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not asking if it exists or not, just does it cares?


If God doesn't exist how can it care? lol


Because the the assumption is that God does exist, while the question is, does this existing God care about the people living here on earth
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 07:55     Subject: What makes you think God cares?
Anonymous wrote:I’m not asking if it exists or not, just does it cares?


If God doesn't exist how can it care? lol