Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:34     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Similar. We’re struggling with language that won’t add to any conflict/confusion at school. If you come up with something, would love to hear it. Ours is in 1st.


So you have filled your young child's head with judgmental and sanctimonious thoughts and now you're wondering what to say to them next to undo this.

Excellent parenting.

On the off chance you are serious, I would say to them that the scientists have said it's safe to unmask but some people may choose not to because of situations in their family or with their own health. The end.

And stop putting your agenda on your young child. It's so gross.


That's not really correct, though. People have been masking to protect everyone who is at risk, not just people in their own family or themselves. So you're not correctly addressing the issue. Maybe you can fudge things and say that CDC has said that transmission levels are low enough now that it is safer not to mask now than it was before. But the risk you are averting is spreading the disease generally in the community, and is not limited to one's own family or oneself.


Newsflash - masks did nothing. Absolutely nothing. I'm sure you felt so noble masking, but bars and restaurants were wide open, people were all hanging outside of the only forced masking area, school.



You take your medical and scientific advice from bars and restaurants?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:32     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Sounds like his parents are nuts and have brainwashed him with propoganda. The CDC no longer recommends masking, and the science is incredibly weak on masking to begin with (with the only RCT showing masks don't work). So sad these families are not following the science, only some new religion.

We're so happy to be mask-free!


So I guess you'll insist any surgeon who ever operates on you will NOT wear a mask, and that your dentist won't wear a mask because they don't do anything to prevent or slow the spread of disease. In the early days of the pandemic I guess the CDC recommended only front line workers wear N95s because they don't really work, not because there was limited supply and they prioritized frontline workers.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:29     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Similar. We’re struggling with language that won’t add to any conflict/confusion at school. If you come up with something, would love to hear it. Ours is in 1st.


So you have filled your young child's head with judgmental and sanctimonious thoughts and now you're wondering what to say to them next to undo this.

Excellent parenting.

On the off chance you are serious, I would say to them that the scientists have said it's safe to unmask but some people may choose not to because of situations in their family or with their own health. The end.

And stop putting your agenda on your young child. It's so gross.


NP. I know it's hard for DCUM to reserve judgement, but, I'd suggest trying to do so.

We deliberately refrained from significant conversation with our second grader in advance of vaccines being approved, and even for a short while after they were approved for the 5-12 demographic, because we didn't want our child to feel any weight of responsibility for the decision, etc.

When we finally did discuss it with our child, they had already gotten significant input and feedback from the school--it surprised us just how much they had absorbed from others.

We continue to try and promote the notion that everyone is making the best decision for their families and that we are kind and considerate and respectful to all, but, if you consider how difficult it has been for some adults to weigh the various phases and actions and reactions to this pandemic, it makes sense that kids are taking all kinds of things away from it too. Everyone could continue to benefit from grace as we all navigate this next new territory.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:29     Subject: APS mask policy

I'm not sure the anti maskers in here are really going to be able to provide reasonable responses to this question that aren't full of propaganda that folks like me who believe in mask safety reject. Which is too bad, because I'm trying to help you here, really, and prevent my kid from seeing your kids as callous and unconcerned about people who are immunocompromised.

I've also thought about saying that you shouldn't necessarily fault a kid this age for following what their parents believe.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:27     Subject: Re:APS mask policy

Tell your kids that the excellent quality KN95 you have provided for them when worn properly by them will protect their family members. Explain that the situation 2 years into the pandemic is much different and we all know a lot more and have better options to help protect and treat us.

Mention to them that the case for masking in children at school has always been debated and many countries have not been doing it all along and the WHO has long not recommended it.

Read this article for more pointers.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/kids-masks-schools-weak-science/621133/

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:26     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Similar. We’re struggling with language that won’t add to any conflict/confusion at school. If you come up with something, would love to hear it. Ours is in 1st.


So you have filled your young child's head with judgmental and sanctimonious thoughts and now you're wondering what to say to them next to undo this.

Excellent parenting.

On the off chance you are serious, I would say to them that the scientists have said it's safe to unmask but some people may choose not to because of situations in their family or with their own health. The end.

And stop putting your agenda on your young child. It's so gross.


That's not really correct, though. People have been masking to protect everyone who is at risk, not just people in their own family or themselves. So you're not correctly addressing the issue. Maybe you can fudge things and say that CDC has said that transmission levels are low enough now that it is safer not to mask now than it was before. But the risk you are averting is spreading the disease generally in the community, and is not limited to one's own family or oneself.


Newsflash - masks did nothing. Absolutely nothing. I'm sure you felt so noble masking, but bars and restaurants were wide open, people were all hanging outside of the only forced masking area, school.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:21     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Wow. How old is this child? He/she really has the talking points down though. Impressive.


7th grade.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:20     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Similar. We’re struggling with language that won’t add to any conflict/confusion at school. If you come up with something, would love to hear it. Ours is in 1st.


So you have filled your young child's head with judgmental and sanctimonious thoughts and now you're wondering what to say to them next to undo this.

Excellent parenting.

On the off chance you are serious, I would say to them that the scientists have said it's safe to unmask but some people may choose not to because of situations in their family or with their own health. The end.

And stop putting your agenda on your young child. It's so gross.


That's not really correct, though. People have been masking to protect everyone who is at risk, not just people in their own family or themselves. So you're not correctly addressing the issue. Maybe you can fudge things and say that CDC has said that transmission levels are low enough now that it is safer not to mask now than it was before. But the risk you are averting is spreading the disease generally in the community, and is not limited to one's own family or oneself.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:19     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Similar. We’re struggling with language that won’t add to any conflict/confusion at school. If you come up with something, would love to hear it. Ours is in 1st.


Similar, though for us we're protecting a child who is under 5 and has some health issues.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:18     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Wow. How old is this child? He/she really has the talking points down though. Impressive.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:15     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are still masking for the foreseeable future.

I tried talking to my kid this morning about treating everyone with the same kindness at school whether they were wearing a mask or not and he was legitimately offended, saying that people who were not wearing masks were failing to take care of the people in the community who had lower immunity levels or at risk people at home, and I said we would have to continue the conversation this evening (because, though I didn't say it, he wasn't really wrong and I don't know a great response to this argument).


Similar. We’re struggling with language that won’t add to any conflict/confusion at school. If you come up with something, would love to hear it. Ours is in 1st.


So you have filled your young child's head with judgmental and sanctimonious thoughts and now you're wondering what to say to them next to undo this.

Excellent parenting.

On the off chance you are serious, I would say to them that the scientists have said it's safe to unmask but some people may choose not to because of situations in their family or with their own health. The end.

And stop putting your agenda on your young child. It's so gross.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:15     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The science has been clear that KN95 and N95 masks can reduce the dosage in a way that allows you to either escape infection or reduce the severity of the disease if you do get infected.


For what purpose? Everyone will be exposed repeatedly. This is just a mask forever justification.

If you want to live your life in that strange way, be my guest. It won't age well, and will make a great thing for our forebears to laugh at.


I think your descendants will probably be laughing more, but ok.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:10     Subject: APS mask policy

Anonymous wrote:The science has been clear that KN95 and N95 masks can reduce the dosage in a way that allows you to either escape infection or reduce the severity of the disease if you do get infected.


For what purpose? Everyone will be exposed repeatedly. This is just a mask forever justification.

If you want to live your life in that strange way, be my guest. It won't age well, and will make a great thing for our forebears to laugh at.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:09     Subject: Re:APS mask policy

Got an email today from our after school enrichment company that they will continue to mask. So even if the school drops the requirement, I'll still have to send in a mask one day a week, just for that hour after school.

Anonymous
Post 02/28/2022 10:08     Subject: APS mask policy

The science has been clear that KN95 and N95 masks can reduce the dosage in a way that allows you to either escape infection or reduce the severity of the disease if you do get infected.