Anonymous
02/15/2022 11:17
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need a new title for this thread:
USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.
Lol. Yep, those who want to dictate how others live instead of just fitting themselves with a nice N95 are the epitome of entitlement.
Yep. What I don't get is how anyone can be surprised the mask mandate is being lifted. Wasn't it inevitable after the case numbers came way back down? Certainly we can argue if March 1 is too soon and it should be April 1 or later, but this cycle is a lot like last spring.
For me, it's not that I'm surprised the mask mandate is being lifted. Of course it has to go. What surprises me is that the mask mandate is lifted, the vaccination mandate is lifted, EXCEPT that vaccinated kids still have to wear masks all day in school. That is the part I don't get and that I'm angry about.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:50
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy moly people, you’d sacrifice children who are too young to be vaxxed and vulnerable populations just so you don’t have to disrupt your life by getting vaccinated? Haven’t our kids suffered enough?
Who is "sacrificing anyone?" Nobody is being sacrificed.
I'm vaccinated and boosted, and I know vaccination must be the choice of the individual. I am not concerned the unvaccinated will sacrifice either my parents or my kids or nieces and nephews. Because people aren't being sacrificed. That isn't happening.
Children under 5 are NOT getting seriously ill, in ANY meaningful %. I think in two and a half years, 200 kids under 5 y/o have died from COVID. You want to keep masking 400 million Americans indefinitely for what amounts to a statistical anomaly?
No arguing with neurosis, especially from the kind of person who's been able to sit at home with Netflix and Uber Eats for two years tsk tsking everyone else.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:48
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy moly people, you’d sacrifice children who are too young to be vaxxed and vulnerable populations just so you don’t have to disrupt your life by getting vaccinated? Haven’t our kids suffered enough?
Who is "sacrificing anyone?" Nobody is being sacrificed.
I'm vaccinated and boosted, and I know vaccination must be the choice of the individual. I am not concerned the unvaccinated will sacrifice either my parents or my kids or nieces and nephews. Because people aren't being sacrificed. That isn't happening.
Children under 5 are NOT getting seriously ill, in ANY meaningful %. I think in two and a half years, 200 kids under 5 y/o have died from COVID. You want to keep masking 400 million Americans indefinitely for what amounts to a statistical anomaly?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:46
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:I've been so confused by people who lament that they will no longer feel "safe" to dine indoors without a vax mandate. Folks keep quoting infection protection data from Delta, the landscape is different with Omicron and will likely stay that way.
Community rates would be the best indication of safety of dining indoors.
Whether the person next to you got J&J in April 2020, a lot less so. The latest data on boosters shows declining protection against infection after just two months.
We have vaccines that protect against hospitalization, but omicron completely blew apart how much protection is provided against infection unless people actively boost every 4-ish months, which will not be sustainable.
Otherwise, statistically speaking, a vax mandate won't do much in the long term to prevent transmission in settings where people are unmasked (other than hopefully keep hospitalization rates lower)
Exactly. I had covid after being vaxxed. But I had that magic card and would have been free to sit maskless in a restaurant even though I was infected and contagious. Meanwhile, the restaurant would have banned an unvaxxed not-infected person. Or one who had robust antibodies and B/T memory cells from a prior infection. That person wouldn't pass infection on, but I could have.
Yet someone feels "safe" dining with me sitting at the next table.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:42
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This feels so unfair. So unvaccinated adults can swan around unmasked in restaurants and bars, but my fully vaxxed kids have to continue wearing their masks for 8 hours a day in school. Drop the school mask mandate before dropping the vax mandate.
Schools will be next. Time to turn up the heat.
I am interested in pushing the Mayor on this, but how? I’m so sick of this bio safety theater.
You will want to email more than just your councilperson, you need to reach these folks, the Chancellor of schools, Dep Mayor of Education and their staff.
Comms, Deputy Mayor Ed -- Benjamin.Fritsch@dc.gov
Dept of health-- laquandra.nesbitt@dc.gov
Deputy Mayor of Ed -- Paul.Kihn@dc.gov,
Chief of Staff, Deputy Mayor of Ed -- carlie.fisherow@dc.gov
DCPS Chancellor -- lewis.ferebee@k12.dc.gov
mayor -- eom@dc.gov
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:39
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:I've been so confused by people who lament that they will no longer feel "safe" to dine indoors without a vax mandate. Folks keep quoting infection protection data from Delta, the landscape is different with Omicron and will likely stay that way.
Community rates would be the best indication of safety of dining indoors.
Whether the person next to you got J&J in April 2020, a lot less so. The latest data on boosters shows declining protection against infection after just two months.
We have vaccines that protect against hospitalization, but omicron completely blew apart how much protection is provided against infection unless people actively boost every 4-ish months, which will not be sustainable.
Otherwise, statistically speaking, a vax mandate won't do much in the long term to prevent transmission in settings where people are unmasked (other than hopefully keep hospitalization rates lower)
Oops, I meant April 2021
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:38
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
I've been so confused by people who lament that they will no longer feel "safe" to dine indoors without a vax mandate. Folks keep quoting infection protection data from Delta, the landscape is different with Omicron and will likely stay that way.
Community rates would be the best indication of safety of dining indoors.
Whether the person next to you got J&J in April 2020, a lot less so. The latest data on boosters shows declining protection against infection after just two months.
We have vaccines that protect against hospitalization, but omicron completely blew apart how much protection is provided against infection unless people actively boost every 4-ish months, which will not be sustainable.
Otherwise, statistically speaking, a vax mandate won't do much in the long term to prevent transmission in settings where people are unmasked (other than hopefully keep hospitalization rates lower)
Community rates would be the best indication of safety of dining indoors.
Whether the person next to you got J&J in April 2020, a lot less so. The latest data on boosters shows declining protection against infection after just two months.
We have vaccines that protect against hospitalization, but omicron completely blew apart how much protection is provided against infection unless people actively boost every 4-ish months, which will not be sustainable.
Otherwise, statistically speaking, a vax mandate won't do much in the long term to prevent transmission in settings where people are unmasked (other than hopefully keep hospitalization rates lower)
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:38
Subject: Re:DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:I'm betting nothing at all will happen to the trend in cases or hospitalizations.
They won't -- the entire DMV, mask mandate or not, followed the same pattern and trajectory over the past few months.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:34
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need a new title for this thread:
USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.
Lol. Yep, those who want to dictate how others live instead of just fitting themselves with a nice N95 are the epitome of entitlement.
Yep. What I don't get is how anyone can be surprised the mask mandate is being lifted. Wasn't it inevitable after the case numbers came way back down? Certainly we can argue if March 1 is too soon and it should be April 1 or later, but this cycle is a lot like last spring.
They've been lifted for nearly a year now in VA.
In some places (gyms, etc) there was never a mask mandate.
Look, I'm vaccinated and boosted, but at this point if you're worried about getting covid you need to take protective measures into your own hands. MANY of us who are pro-science, pro-vax, and pro-reason have long resumed living our lives normally. Covid is not the boogeyman we once thought, especially for those who are vaccinated. You can stay behind if you want to, but expecting the rest of society to adapt to your irrational anxiety is out of the question.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:26
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need a new title for this thread:
USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.
Lol. Yep, those who want to dictate how others live instead of just fitting themselves with a nice N95 are the epitome of entitlement.
+1000. And delusionment.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 10:25
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing they are keeping the mask mandates for schools because Omicron is still ripping through classrooms like wild fire. Our DC-based daycare was absolutely decimated for the past month. I imagine the same is happening in classrooms, particularly when so few kids are vaccinated.
Masks didn't stop Omicron from ripping through groups of people including daycares. Now our daily case rates are back down around 100/day. Why do our littlest kids need a mask?
By decimated, do you mean "tested positive," regardless of actual symptoms, or complete lack therof?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:48
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need a new title for this thread:
USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.
Lol. Yep, those who want to dictate how others live instead of just fitting themselves with a nice N95 are the epitome of entitlement.
Yep. What I don't get is how anyone can be surprised the mask mandate is being lifted. Wasn't it inevitable after the case numbers came way back down? Certainly we can argue if March 1 is too soon and it should be April 1 or later, but this cycle is a lot like last spring.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:46
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We need a new title for this thread:
USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.
Lol. Yep, those who want to dictate how others live instead of just fitting themselves with a nice N95 are the epitome of entitlement.
Exactly how a selfishly entitled person would talk...
Anonymous
02/15/2022 09:30
Subject: DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:We need a new title for this thread:
USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.
Lol. Yep, those who want to dictate how others live instead of just fitting themselves with a nice N95 are the epitome of entitlement.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 07:46
Subject: Re:DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow
I'm betting nothing at all will happen to the trend in cases or hospitalizations.