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How disingenuous. The largest school districts in the state, all of them, as well as many smaller ones, refused to comply with the governor's EO.

The governor can, and should, crow about the numbers going down. That's great news! But linking it to his contested and unfollowed EO is yucky.

I think the point is that the numbers went down despite it, not because of it. The point is that mask mandates in schools don't move the needle - as policy.

Since many school districts, including the largest school districts, across the commonwealth still have/had a mask mandate, refused to comply with the EO, the point being made is actually the opposite.

Oh well.

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How disingenuous. The largest school districts in the state, all of them, as well as many smaller ones, refused to comply with the governor's EO.

The governor can, and should, crow about the numbers going down. That's great news! But linking it to his contested and unfollowed EO is yucky.

I think the point is that the numbers went down despite it, not because of it. The point is that mask mandates in schools don't move the needle - as policy.

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How disingenuous. The largest school districts in the state, all of them, as well as many smaller ones, refused to comply with the governor's EO.

The governor can, and should, crow about the numbers going down. That's great news! But linking it to his contested and unfollowed EO is yucky.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, less than 3% of Fall Church PS parents have opted out of masking, as they now are able to. Anti-maskers thinking they are in the majority are in actuality in some crazy echo chamber.

I mean, it's been a day. Give it time.

Also, why is everyone so scared of a small percentage of the school population being unmasked?

Exactly. If so few people choose to unmask then doesn’t that prove it should be mask optional? That allows the families whose kids are not doing well with masking to opt out and barely moves the needle. Of course, the reality is that most parents are afraid of being socially ostracized for wanting masks off their kids, but everyone can see which way the wind is blowing and it will soon be socially acceptable to go mask free. At that point the mask always crowd will have FOMO.

Well I support Universal masking but I'm not having my kid mask if others in their classes are not showing them the same courtesy. I'm happy to participate in a group mitigation effort but not planning to give a special priviledge to a whiny subset of people that only cares about themselves.

Its a pretty close to a prisoner's dillemma exercise except usually there is an option where both parties get a reward if neither does the action.

That... doesn't make sense. You're in favor of masking unless someone else doesn't have to, in which case you don't believe in masking? Sounds like you aren't actually that into masking after all.

Agree. If you believe masks provide significant benefit, wouldn't those that are masked have the special privilege?

My mask protects you, your mask protects me. Surely you’ve heard that. It’s a collective action.

The new info is one person in a KN95 has more protection than two in surgical masks. It's 2022 - not 2020 anymore.

Still better if everyone does it.

Please bear with me as I imperfectly recall an object lesson from a college econ class. The professor told the class if everyone kept their hands down when he counted to three, he'd give everyone a dollar. If only one person raised their hand, that person would get $10. If more than one person raised their hand, those who raised their hands would owe the professor $5 each and everyone in the class would owe the professor $2 each. If nobody raised their hand, the professor would give everyone $1. The professor counted to three several times. Every.single.time. the same one kid raised his hand. Nobody else did until eventually a couple kids started raising their hand to keep the one kid from raking it in. Maybe someone smarter than me can remind me what econ principle this was illustrating, but I've thought a lot about this object lesson the past two years.

Prisoner's dilemma probably. Possibly tragedy of the commons.

It’s a “fairness” game. People, seeing the one student get “unjustly” enriched, will suffer personal harm to deny his/her enrichment.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, less than 3% of Fall Church PS parents have opted out of masking, as they now are able to. Anti-maskers thinking they are in the majority are in actuality in some crazy echo chamber.

I mean, it's been a day. Give it time.

Also, why is everyone so scared of a small percentage of the school population being unmasked?

Exactly. If so few people choose to unmask then doesn’t that prove it should be mask optional? That allows the families whose kids are not doing well with masking to opt out and barely moves the needle. Of course, the reality is that most parents are afraid of being socially ostracized for wanting masks off their kids, but everyone can see which way the wind is blowing and it will soon be socially acceptable to go mask free. At that point the mask always crowd will have FOMO.

Well I support Universal masking but I'm not having my kid mask if others in their classes are not showing them the same courtesy. I'm happy to participate in a group mitigation effort but not planning to give a special priviledge to a whiny subset of people that only cares about themselves.

That... doesn't make sense. You're in favor of masking unless someone else doesn't have to, in which case you don't believe in masking? Sounds like you aren't actually that into masking after all.

Agree. If you believe masks provide significant benefit, wouldn't those that are masked have the special privilege?

My mask protects you, your mask protects me. Surely you’ve heard that. It’s a collective action.

The new info is one person in a KN95 has more protection than two in surgical masks. It's 2022 - not 2020 anymore.

Still better if everyone does it.

Please bear with me as I imperfectly recall an object lesson from a college econ class. The professor told the class if everyone kept their hands down when he counted to three, he'd give everyone a dollar. If only one person raised their hand, that person would get $10. If more than one person raised their hand, those who raised their hands would owe the professor $5 each and everyone in the class would owe the professor $2 each. If nobody raised their hand, the professor would give everyone $1. The professor counted to three several times. Every.single.time. the same one kid raised his hand. Nobody else did until eventually a couple kids started raising their hand to keep the one kid from raking it in. Maybe someone smarter than me can remind me what econ principle this was illustrating, but I've thought a lot about this object lesson the past two years.

Prisoner's dilemma probably. Possibly tragedy of the commons.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, less than 3% of Fall Church PS parents have opted out of masking, as they now are able to. Anti-maskers thinking they are in the majority are in actuality in some crazy echo chamber.

I mean, it's been a day. Give it time.

Also, why is everyone so scared of a small percentage of the school population being unmasked?

Exactly. If so few people choose to unmask then doesn’t that prove it should be mask optional? That allows the families whose kids are not doing well with masking to opt out and barely moves the needle. Of course, the reality is that most parents are afraid of being socially ostracized for wanting masks off their kids, but everyone can see which way the wind is blowing and it will soon be socially acceptable to go mask free. At that point the mask always crowd will have FOMO.

Well I support Universal masking but I'm not having my kid mask if others in their classes are not showing them the same courtesy. I'm happy to participate in a group mitigation effort but not planning to give a special priviledge to a whiny subset of people that only cares about themselves.

That... doesn't make sense. You're in favor of masking unless someone else doesn't have to, in which case you don't believe in masking? Sounds like you aren't actually that into masking after all.

Agree. If you believe masks provide significant benefit, wouldn't those that are masked have the special privilege?

My mask protects you, your mask protects me. Surely you’ve heard that. It’s a collective action.

The new info is one person in a KN95 has more protection than two in surgical masks. It's 2022 - not 2020 anymore.

Still better if everyone does it.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, less than 3% of Fall Church PS parents have opted out of masking, as they now are able to. Anti-maskers thinking they are in the majority are in actuality in some crazy echo chamber.

I mean, it's been a day. Give it time.

Also, why is everyone so scared of a small percentage of the school population being unmasked?

Exactly. If so few people choose to unmask then doesn’t that prove it should be mask optional? That allows the families whose kids are not doing well with masking to opt out and barely moves the needle. Of course, the reality is that most parents are afraid of being socially ostracized for wanting masks off their kids, but everyone can see which way the wind is blowing and it will soon be socially acceptable to go mask free. At that point the mask always crowd will have FOMO.

Well I support Universal masking but I'm not having my kid mask if others in their classes are not showing them the same courtesy. I'm happy to participate in a group mitigation effort but not planning to give a special priviledge to a whiny subset of people that only cares about themselves.

That... doesn't make sense. You're in favor of masking unless someone else doesn't have to, in which case you don't believe in masking? Sounds like you aren't actually that into masking after all.

Agree. If you believe masks provide significant benefit, wouldn't those that are masked have the special privilege?

My mask protects you, your mask protects me. Surely you’ve heard that. It’s a collective action.

The new info is one person in a KN95 has more protection than two in surgical masks. It's 2022 - not 2020 anymore.

Still better if everyone does it.

Please bear with me as I imperfectly recall an object lesson from a college econ class. The professor told the class if everyone kept their hands down when he counted to three, he'd give everyone a dollar. If only one person raised their hand, that person would get $10. If more than one person raised their hand, those who raised their hands would owe the professor $5 each and everyone in the class would owe the professor $2 each. If nobody raised their hand, the professor would give everyone $1. The professor counted to three several times. Every.single.time. the same one kid raised his hand. Nobody else did until eventually a couple kids started raising their hand to keep the one kid from raking it in. Maybe someone smarter than me can remind me what econ principle this was illustrating, but I've thought a lot about this object lesson the past two years.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, less than 3% of Fall Church PS parents have opted out of masking, as they now are able to. Anti-maskers thinking they are in the majority are in actuality in some crazy echo chamber.

I mean, it's been a day. Give it time.

Also, why is everyone so scared of a small percentage of the school population being unmasked?

Exactly. If so few people choose to unmask then doesn’t that prove it should be mask optional? That allows the families whose kids are not doing well with masking to opt out and barely moves the needle. Of course, the reality is that most parents are afraid of being socially ostracized for wanting masks off their kids, but everyone can see which way the wind is blowing and it will soon be socially acceptable to go mask free. At that point the mask always crowd will have FOMO.

Well I support Universal masking but I'm not having my kid mask if others in their classes are not showing them the same courtesy. I'm happy to participate in a group mitigation effort but not planning to give a special priviledge to a whiny subset of people that only cares about themselves.

That... doesn't make sense. You're in favor of masking unless someone else doesn't have to, in which case you don't believe in masking? Sounds like you aren't actually that into masking after all.

Agree. If you believe masks provide significant benefit, wouldn't those that are masked have the special privilege?

My mask protects you, your mask protects me. Surely you’ve heard that. It’s a collective action.

The new info is one person in a KN95 has more protection than two in surgical masks. It's 2022 - not 2020 anymore.

Still better if everyone does it.

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Anonymous wrote:He's still forcing public school families into a situation he isn't choosing for his own kid. #hypocrisy

His kid's school is mask optional before my kid's school, so I'm not really sure what your point is.

He was trying to force mask optional on other people before his kid's school was mask optional. If he thought mask optional was so important, why didn't he put his kid in a mask optional school?

His kid IS at a mask optional school. The 3 week difference isn't meaningful. There really isn't any coherent scientific reason to require masks in school at this point. Most NOVA schools are going to maintain 90%+ masking rates anyway, at least until spring.