We already have AAP. Why would we need to pull money from AAP to create a duplicate AAP?

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…a lottery for charter schools who do not actually have to educate the students they don’t want to educate. Look at schools like KIIP who kick students out that violate their very strict rules. Why do you pro-charter people want charters? Where are charters working outside of already failing urban districts? We need a re-vamp of our state tests and our teacher pay, not charter schools.
Signed, Not a leftist fear mongerer who happens to be a Republican but thinks this Sec Ed choice is shitty (but not as shitty as the current one)

Charter mom again, and I don't know why I'm still bothering. In my state, charters can't kick out students like that. They must accept everyone who lotteries in, they must provide IEP accommodations, and they in every way function as a public school when dealing with behavior issues. My kids' charter is, however, essentially open enrollment AAP which slows down for no one. Teachers have office hours before and after school to help students who need extra help, and the school has a peer tutoring program. If ultimately, the kids don't pass their classes even with all of this extra help, they still don't get kicked out, but rather they would need to repeat the grade level that they failed.

People will choose to leave the charter if they feel that it isn't a good fit for their kids, but that's to be expected when you have school choice and many other options.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her qualifications?

She has never been an educator and has no degrees in education. She is a consultant who makes money off of schools. She wants more testing because she’s all about “data.” She lives in Minnesota. She is a charter school advocate.

Arid Qarni was horrible! But Youngkin made a really badly pick.

She has degrees in public policy and government, and has worked in the education field for decades, but I guess you can pretend she’d be far more qualified to lead a state-wide department if she had a degree in elementary education from Longwood. And she sent her own kids to FCPS before moving to Minnesota.

You people are so partisan and afraid that anyone will ever challenge people to do things differently or better. The fact that you’re attacking her so viciously before she even takes office is precisely why others welcome her appointment.

+1. And it’s a public policy management position not a teaching position

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She's beyond qualified for this position and I wish her well.

+100. There's so many idiots on this thread who have no idea what they are talking about. It's all liberal screed with no basic understanding of facts. Most here don't even know the difference between vouchers and charter schools. They just spew hate from the left. Maybe time to leave DCUM

Most on the right assume that vouchers offer school choice without realizing that they cover a fraction of the tuition at any existing school.

On the contrary - it's people on the left who keep insisting vouchers will go to paying private school tuitions. Such BS. The *only* voucher proposed by Youngkin is a $500/student Covid-learning loss voucher. That's it. The fear-mongering by the left is off-the-charts. Youngkin has proposed CHARTER SCHOOLS, which will be lottery-based. These are not vouchers. Learn the difference.

…a lottery for charter schools who do not actually have to educate the students they don’t want to educate. Look at schools like KIIP who kick students out that violate their very strict rules. Why do you pro-charter people want charters? Where are charters working outside of already failing urban districts? We need a re-vamp of our state tests and our teacher pay, not charter schools.
Signed, Not a leftist fear mongerer who happens to be a Republican but thinks this Sec Ed choice is shitty (but not as shitty as the current one)

Dyslexia-focused charters work. Just think then the districts could stop funding litigation and dyslexic kids could actually learn to read without their parents taking out a second mortgage for private tutors.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her qualifications?

She has never been an educator and has no degrees in education. She is a consultant who makes money off of schools. She wants more testing because she’s all about “data.” She lives in Minnesota. She is a charter school advocate.

Arid Qarni was horrible! But Youngkin made a really badly pick.

She has degrees in public policy and government, and has worked in the education field for decades, but I guess you can pretend she’d be far more qualified to lead a state-wide department if she had a degree in elementary education from Longwood. And she sent her own kids to FCPS before moving to Minnesota.

You people are so partisan and afraid that anyone will ever challenge people to do things differently or better. The fact that you’re attacking her so viciously before she even takes office is precisely why others welcome her appointment.

+1. And it’s a public policy management position not a teaching position

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She's beyond qualified for this position and I wish her well.

+100. There's so many idiots on this thread who have no idea what they are talking about. It's all liberal screed with no basic understanding of facts. Most here don't even know the difference between vouchers and charter schools. They just spew hate from the left. Maybe time to leave DCUM

Most on the right assume that vouchers offer school choice without realizing that they cover a fraction of the tuition at any existing school.

On the contrary - it's people on the left who keep insisting vouchers will go to paying private school tuitions. Such BS. The *only* voucher proposed by Youngkin is a $500/student Covid-learning loss voucher. That's it. The fear-mongering by the left is off-the-charts. Youngkin has proposed CHARTER SCHOOLS, which will be lottery-based. These are not vouchers. Learn the difference.

…a lottery for charter schools who do not actually have to educate the students they don’t want to educate. Look at schools like KIIP who kick students out that violate their very strict rules. Why do you pro-charter people want charters? Where are charters working outside of already failing urban districts? We need a re-vamp of our state tests and our teacher pay, not charter schools.
Signed, Not a leftist fear mongerer who happens to be a Republican but thinks this Sec Ed choice is shitty (but not as shitty as the current one)

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Still no actual, credible links detailing this super-scary "voucher plan." Nothing at all, just the usual speculation. Yawn.

Do you want Youngkin to implement vouchers?

I'm still undecided. But it's really a moot point because, once again, NO ONE has provided any actual links stating that this is his plan. Just fear-mongering. I AM, however, a big fan of the charter school plan - which he *has* proposed.

Haven’t you seen what vouchers have done in Michigan and Indiana?

They don’t help families who need the most help. Vouchers sure do help subsidize private school tuition for existing private school families.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her qualifications?

She has never been an educator and has no degrees in education. She is a consultant who makes money off of schools. She wants more testing because she’s all about “data.” She lives in Minnesota. She is a charter school advocate.

Arid Qarni was horrible! But Youngkin made a really badly pick.

She has degrees in public policy and government, and has worked in the education field for decades, but I guess you can pretend she’d be far more qualified to lead a state-wide department if she had a degree in elementary education from Longwood. And she sent her own kids to FCPS before moving to Minnesota.

You people are so partisan and afraid that anyone will ever challenge people to do things differently or better. The fact that you’re attacking her so viciously before she even takes office is precisely why others welcome her appointment.

+1. And it’s a public policy management position not a teaching position

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She's beyond qualified for this position and I wish her well.

+100. There's so many idiots on this thread who have no idea what they are talking about. It's all liberal screed with no basic understanding of facts. Most here don't even know the difference between vouchers and charter schools. They just spew hate from the left. Maybe time to leave DCUM

Most on the right assume that vouchers offer school choice without realizing that they cover a fraction of the tuition at any existing school.

On the contrary - it's people on the left who keep insisting vouchers will go to paying private school tuitions. Such BS. The *only* voucher proposed by Youngkin is a $500/student Covid-learning loss voucher. That's it. The fear-mongering by the left is off-the-charts. Youngkin has proposed CHARTER SCHOOLS, which will be lottery-based. These are not vouchers. Learn the difference.

…a lottery for charter schools who do not actually have to educate the students they don’t want to educate. Look at schools like KIIP who kick students out that violate their very strict rules. Why do you pro-charter people want charters? Where are charters working outside of already failing urban districts? We need a re-vamp of our state tests and our teacher pay, not charter schools.
Signed, Not a leftist fear mongerer who happens to be a Republican but thinks this Sec Ed choice is shitty (but not as shitty as the current one)

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Still no actual, credible links detailing this super-scary "voucher plan." Nothing at all, just the usual speculation. Yawn.

Do you want Youngkin to implement vouchers?

I'm still undecided. But it's really a moot point because, once again, NO ONE has provided any actual links stating that this is his plan. Just fear-mongering. I AM, however, a big fan of the charter school plan - which he *has* proposed.

Haven’t you seen what vouchers have done in Michigan and Indiana?

They don’t help families who need the most help. Vouchers sure do help subsidize private school tuition for existing private school families.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her qualifications?

She has never been an educator and has no degrees in education. She is a consultant who makes money off of schools. She wants more testing because she’s all about “data.” She lives in Minnesota. She is a charter school advocate.

Arid Qarni was horrible! But Youngkin made a really badly pick.

She has degrees in public policy and government, and has worked in the education field for decades, but I guess you can pretend she’d be far more qualified to lead a state-wide department if she had a degree in elementary education from Longwood. And she sent her own kids to FCPS before moving to Minnesota.

You people are so partisan and afraid that anyone will ever challenge people to do things differently or better. The fact that you’re attacking her so viciously before she even takes office is precisely why others welcome her appointment.

+1. And it’s a public policy management position not a teaching position

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She's beyond qualified for this position and I wish her well.

+100. There's so many idiots on this thread who have no idea what they are talking about. It's all liberal screed with no basic understanding of facts. Most here don't even know the difference between vouchers and charter schools. They just spew hate from the left. Maybe time to leave DCUM

Most on the right assume that vouchers offer school choice without realizing that they cover a fraction of the tuition at any existing school.

On the contrary - it's people on the left who keep insisting vouchers will go to paying private school tuitions. Such BS. The *only* voucher proposed by Youngkin is a $500/student Covid-learning loss voucher. That's it. The fear-mongering by the left is off-the-charts. Youngkin has proposed CHARTER SCHOOLS, which will be lottery-based. These are not vouchers. Learn the difference.

…a lottery for charter schools who do not actually have to educate the students they don’t want to educate. Look at schools like KIIP who kick students out that violate their very strict rules. Why do you pro-charter people want charters? Where are charters working outside of already failing urban districts? We need a re-vamp of our state tests and our teacher pay, not charter schools.
Signed, Not a leftist fear mongerer who happens to be a Republican but thinks this Sec Ed choice is shitty (but not as shitty as the current one)

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Anonymous wrote:Still no actual, credible links detailing this super-scary "voucher plan." Nothing at all, just the usual speculation. Yawn.

Do you want Youngkin to implement vouchers?

I'm still undecided. But it's really a moot point because, once again, NO ONE has provided any actual links stating that this is his plan. Just fear-mongering. I AM, however, a big fan of the charter school plan - which he *has* proposed.

Anonymous wrote:Still no actual, credible links detailing this super-scary "voucher plan." Nothing at all, just the usual speculation. Yawn.

Do you want Youngkin to implement vouchers?

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Anonymous wrote:You dont think new schools would come up with a $20k price tag to fill in the place in the market between $0 and $50k for Potomac? Of course they would especially if they new every parent had a $20k spending power.

Sure, but the vouchers would not be for $20k and the schools would still not accept kids needing special support, leaving the high cost students in FCPS with fewer resources and still draining resources. I suppose it might cause parents with those kids to then move to MD, which would be a benefit for my taxes? Pretty shitty what you are proposing. I’m not a liberal, but I’ve watched enough documentaries/read enough about charters to know that I dont want them in Fairfax. I also know that when you put someone in power who thinks data is the solution, you go further down the NCLB testing rabbit hole, which is the opposite of what I want for my kids and for myself (as a teacher). Everyone on here complains about the lack of grammar and writing instruction. These things are no longer taught because they are not heavily tested on the SOL (even less now that the writing sol is a local performance assessment). Pre-NCLB, they were taught. We need a DOE that focuses on retaining high quality teachers through compensation and developing a curriculum that is rigorous (with support for teachers to teach the curriculum). None of that will happen with someone who just wants more data (the burden of collection falls on teachers and takes away from instruction).

Excellent points.

Still no actual, credible links detailing this super-scary "voucher plan." Nothing at all, just the usual speculation. Yawn.

Anonymous wrote:I wounded if Youngkin would send his kids to schools that accept vouchers. If they are good enough to do revise the choice he ran on, surely they’re good enough for his kids

GOD, you people just keep on repeating nonsense. It's CHARTER SCHOOLS he's proposed. Do you even understand the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:What’s her qualifications?

She has never been an educator and has no degrees in education. She is a consultant who makes money off of schools. She wants more testing because she’s all about “data.” She lives in Minnesota. She is a charter school advocate.

Arid Qarni was horrible! But Youngkin made a really badly pick.

She has degrees in public policy and government, and has worked in the education field for decades, but I guess you can pretend she’d be far more qualified to lead a state-wide department if she had a degree in elementary education from Longwood. And she sent her own kids to FCPS before moving to Minnesota.

You people are so partisan and afraid that anyone will ever challenge people to do things differently or better. The fact that you’re attacking her so viciously before she even takes office is precisely why others welcome her appointment.

+1. And it’s a public policy management position not a teaching position

+2
She's beyond qualified for this position and I wish her well.

+100. There's so many idiots on this thread who have no idea what they are talking about. It's all liberal screed with no basic understanding of facts. Most here don't even know the difference between vouchers and charter schools. They just spew hate from the left. Maybe time to leave DCUM

Most on the right assume that vouchers offer school choice without realizing that they cover a fraction of the tuition at any existing school.

On the contrary - it's people on the left who keep insisting vouchers will go to paying private school tuitions. Such BS. The *only* voucher proposed by Youngkin is a $500/student Covid-learning loss voucher. That's it. The fear-mongering by the left is off-the-charts. Youngkin has proposed CHARTER SCHOOLS, which will be lottery-based. These are not vouchers. Learn the difference.

Then why does he have so many VOUCHER people working for him?

Denial…

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Because it will drain budgets from existing public schools. Any issues they currently have will be even tougher to overcome.

Governmnet schools have done a terrible job of dealing with the issues, so allowing people to take their education dollars elsewhere only makes sense. There's no reason for the government to operate a monopoly on education using our tax dollars. Allowing families to choose where and how their kids are educated will allow the government to focus on the few students who remain.

No. We right the course, we don’t sink the ship.

People move here for the schools. Why would we flush them down the toilet?

DP. The USS One Fairfax has already sailed. Too late to "right" anything. Equity nonsense has taken over - is it really any surprise to you that so many have already left FCPS? Good grief. "Righting the ship" now calls for drastic measures. Bring on the charter schools.