Anonymous
12/26/2021 11:34
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only reliable metrics on this are application numbers and yield. This thread seems to just be impressions people have based on the kids they know personally. Just because your kid and his friends aren’t interested in a particular school or location or whatever is not an accurate measure of schools that have fallen out of favor.
Number of applications isn't really reliable since schools can induce kids to apply even if they are not qualified (Chicago, Tulane, etc.). Yield may be significant, but you can have a school like Caltech, which has a lower yield than MIT, but has a student body with stats that are every bit as impressive as MIT. Caltech doesn't need as high of a yield to fill its class with super qualified kids.
You make good points but these are still better metrics than someone’s impression that a certain school or geographic location or type of school has fallen out of fashion based on some kids they know. Even if they know a lot of kids in one area of the country who don’t like X, we still don’t know if f that is representative of any broader trend.
Anonymous
12/26/2021 11:24
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only reliable metrics on this are application numbers and yield. This thread seems to just be impressions people have based on the kids they know personally. Just because your kid and his friends aren’t interested in a particular school or location or whatever is not an accurate measure of schools that have fallen out of favor.
Number of applications isn't really reliable since schools can induce kids to apply even if they are not qualified (Chicago, Tulane, etc.). Yield may be significant, but you can have a school like Caltech, which has a lower yield than MIT, but has a student body with stats that are every bit as impressive as MIT. Caltech doesn't need as high of a yield to fill its class with super qualified kids.
That's because Caltech is smaller than most high schools.
Anonymous
12/26/2021 11:21
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:The only reliable metrics on this are application numbers and yield. This thread seems to just be impressions people have based on the kids they know personally. Just because your kid and his friends aren’t interested in a particular school or location or whatever is not an accurate measure of schools that have fallen out of favor.
Number of applications isn't really reliable since schools can induce kids to apply even if they are not qualified (Chicago, Tulane, etc.). Yield may be significant, but you can have a school like Caltech, which has a lower yield than MIT, but has a student body with stats that are every bit as impressive as MIT. Caltech doesn't need as high of a yield to fill its class with super qualified kids.
Anonymous
12/26/2021 01:57
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My dd wouldn’t consider applying to UVA and ended up at W&M (her other options were Slacs.) I’d say she’s brainy but repulsed by the heavy frat and party scene. She is fairly sophisticated in her tastes so that might be part of it.
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Or Moronic. You do know that all frats are off-campus at UVA and that less than 30% participate? Too bad she’s so sophisticated-she might have enjoyed meeting my UVA DS who never ventured into a frat house, graduated UVA with highest honors, attended Oxford and now is at a T3 law school …. But then she’s “too sophisticated” for him. Lololol. Oh and he’s in the Green Book.
Yet…you sound so insecure
Anonymous
12/25/2021 18:53
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Miami - started to rise under Shalala. Reverting back. The U isnt for serious students.
It’s always been a school for kids with rich daddies and foreign jet set types. I’d never send a normal, middle class (or even UMC) kid to U-M absent a full ride scholarship.
Completely agree. The student body is made up of kids who want to party plus the kids who couldn’t get into BC.
The acceptance rate is in the 30s. It's not easy to get in. It's not the 80s/90s anymore (anywhere).
Anonymous
12/25/2021 18:49
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Miami - started to rise under Shalala. Reverting back. The U isnt for serious students.
It’s always been a school for kids with rich daddies and foreign jet set types. I’d never send a normal, middle class (or even UMC) kid to U-M absent a full ride scholarship.
Completely agree. The student body is made up of kids who want to party plus the kids who couldn’t get into BC.
How about for grad school? Marine sciences?
Anonymous
12/25/2021 14:43
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Miami - started to rise under Shalala. Reverting back. The U isnt for serious students.
It’s always been a school for kids with rich daddies and foreign jet set types. I’d never send a normal, middle class (or even UMC) kid to U-M absent a full ride scholarship.
Completely agree. The student body is made up of kids who want to party plus the kids who couldn’t get into BC.
Anonymous
12/25/2021 14:15
Subject: Re:What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Duke
Because no one can get in from around here. It's super tough. They are known for not "liking" DC kids, at least DC proper.
Because DC kids have better options up north or out west? It goes both ways dear.
Anonymous
12/25/2021 14:14
Subject: Re:What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I honestly can't imagine why Duke would be falling out of favor, when it's right up the alley for so many applicants and the Research Triangle area has taken off economically. I could imagine a small number of elite East Coast types now writing off North Carolina because of the state's politics, but someone else would take their place quickly as economic activity moves to the south. So I think the trashing must come from folks who didn't get in or whose kids were turned down.
And, no, not a Duke graduate (in fact, turned it down twice).
Duke had 50k applications last year
No longer a hot school among top privates in DC or in New England.
Anonymous
12/24/2021 13:42
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
The only reliable metrics on this are application numbers and yield. This thread seems to just be impressions people have based on the kids they know personally. Just because your kid and his friends aren’t interested in a particular school or location or whatever is not an accurate measure of schools that have fallen out of favor.
Anonymous
12/24/2021 12:58
Subject: Re:What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Test optional will change the rankings in the next few years due to increase number of applications (marketing). So we will need a better formula to measure rankings. So far, universities that are dedicated to yield statistics are climbing in ranking, like UChicago.
I wonder why that is, since yield is NOT part of the USN ranking formula,
Anonymous
12/24/2021 10:33
Subject: Re:What colleges are falling out of fashion?
gw, georgetown
Anonymous
12/24/2021 10:32
Subject: Re:What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Test optional will change the rankings in the next few years due to increase number of applications (marketing). So we will need a better formula to measure rankings. So far, universities that are dedicated to yield statistics are climbing in ranking, like UChicago.
Anonymous
12/24/2021 08:35
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any school that costs 80k except HYSPM
This. You can shut the thread down now
Unless the actual price you pay is less than the sticker price
Anonymous
12/24/2021 08:28
Subject: What colleges are falling out of fashion?
Anonymous wrote:Any school that costs 80k except HYSPM
This. You can shut the thread down now