Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Mainstream what?

Anonymous wrote:It seems like the posters in this thread are very out of touch with the mainstream since 90% of these folks win reelection by a landslide.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And if you can't see why parents need a seat at that table then you're part of the problem. Example: Years ago, our son's teacher kept calling in sick week after week after week. The school kept throwing subs in. After 4 weeks of no learning, I called the principal to ask what the plan was and she said it was an HR matter. So an issue between MCPS and a teacher directly affected the students. I gathered up the PTA and we raised hell with the central office until they agreed to send in a permanent sub who was fantastic. Another more general example is the number of days they're whittling away from the school calendar.

That's not how employment contracts work, and it's not how collective bargaining works. As a fan of men's basketball, do you expect to have a seat at the bargaining table with the NBA and the NBA players? As a person who shops at Safeway, do you expect to have a seat at the bargaining table with Albertson's and the Safeway employees? As a person who goes to the dentist, do you expect to have a seat at the table in employment negotiations between your dentist and their dental hygienists?

The employer is MCPS. MCPS is overseen by the Board of Education. The voters vote for the members of the Board of Education. That's your seat at the table.

I agree with you that employment contracts are between an employer and employees. Yes, parents vote for the BOE (and the County Council, which decides how much funding MCPS gets but not how it's allocated), and they often, but not always, choose the Apple Ballot candidates because they are on the Apple Ballot, and therefore many BOE members have an incentive to prioritize teachers over students.

I see that teachers believe whatever is good for teachers is good for students, but that is simply not true. The MCEA always pushes compensation increases above all. Students don't directly benefit from compensation increases, and they would likely benefit more from a better balance between compensation (which is obviously needed to recruit and retain teachers) and service improvements.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Of course, every 15 year old knows it all. I did too, when I was 15!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Of course, every 15 year old knows it all. I did too, when I was 15!

My mom forced me to take a typing class as a freshman. I was a “smart and thoughtful” teen who felt it was a waste of an elective. She won the argument and I took the class under protest. She was right. It was one of the most useful classes I ever took and I have thanked her many times over the years.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Of course, every 15 year old knows it all. I did too, when I was 15!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Most of the people complaining seem mentally unbalanced.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Teenagers are the ones in school. They know what they need to succeed. A bunch of out of touch, lunatic parents know far less about student needs but go off.

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.

Seriously, I don't know if PP has met any MCPS teenagers but I have and my experience has been to be blown away by how smart and thoughtful they are. If anything students should have a larger voice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are kidding, right? PARENTS have to advocate for their own students! It is your job as a parent.

As far as listening to groups of students, have you seen BOE member Lynne Harris's campaign information, Lynne for Students? She also gave up some of her testimony time to students before she was a Board member.

You know what? I don't care what a group of teenagers think. Their frontal lobes are not fully developed, they are not paying property taxes, and only a small few are old enough to vote.

Ad far as I am concerned, what a group of teenagers thinks is irrelevant. What parents want - that is important. Work with your principal, your PTA, MCCPTA, even Board of Education members directly to get what you need for your child.