Anonymous
12/03/2021 12:35
Subject: CogAT score is here
https://riversideinsights.com/cognitive_abilities_test
Scroll down to "Scoring and Reporting".
The scores are at teachers' fingertips. Not sure why it takes them so long to post to SIS.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 11:47
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:If not COB today then next Friday for sure. Let’s see which will be the lucky Friday 😀
As a web person, their SIS person would be crazy to hit "Show this data for these thousands of kids" and walk out of the office for the weekend. Never release on a Friday.
But then again they put out report cards as of 6 a.m. Saturday morning and the ES one is usually mis-formatted, so I guess they do this kind of staff all the time.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 11:39
Subject: CogAT score is here
If not COB today then next Friday for sure. Let’s see which will be the lucky Friday 😀
Anonymous
12/03/2021 10:12
Subject: CogAT score is here
I think they'll be posted COB today
Anonymous
12/03/2021 09:23
Subject: CogAT score is here
But today is 6 weeks from the end of the testing window…I think we can all agree that is enough time.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 09:22
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
I said renorming was happening in another thread, but I was guessing local norms. This makes even more sense.
I understand the suggestion that scores are being normed, but... kids that took the cogat at GMU had the results in two weeks so... Still not sure that takes a computer system more than a month extra time to check the scale.
GMU is probably not doing the same norming that FCPS is doing and the FCPS test is actually a bit different then the one offered at GMU. it is not the same test nor is it the same process.
Anonymous
12/03/2021 08:45
Subject: CogAT score is here
I submitted the application packet last night to AART. It’s such a big relief!
Anonymous
12/02/2021 16:24
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
I said renorming was happening in another thread, but I was guessing local norms. This makes even more sense.
I understand the suggestion that scores are being normed, but... kids that took the cogat at GMU had the results in two weeks so... Still not sure that takes a computer system more than a month extra time to check the scale.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 13:51
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
I said renorming was happening in another thread, but I was guessing local norms. This makes even more sense.
I think the thing that makes me furious for the kids in grades 1-3 is that the data is just useless and we wasted so much time testing and it's like we know. The kids are behind. I am struggling to catch up kids and it's working well because these kids learn tons and truthfully there is a lot to take away, particularly considering the pushing down of academics. In a weird way, a lot of this makes me think all testing in K should be thrown in the trash. The year really just be play based with literacy being taught and math taught through play and the year should be more focused on getting the kid physically ready (holding a pencil and forming letters) and mentally ready (following directions). None of the K testing focuses on this, fwiw. You can spend 1-2 basically teaching and getting kids caught up.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Anonymous
12/02/2021 13:48
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
I said renorming was happening in another thread, but I was guessing local norms. This makes even more sense.
I think the thing that makes me furious for the kids in grades 1-3 is that the data is just useless and we wasted so much time testing and it's like we know. The kids are behind. I am struggling to catch up kids and it's working well because these kids learn tons and truthfully there is a lot to take away, particularly considering the pushing down of academics. In a weird way, a lot of this makes me think all testing in K should be thrown in the trash. The year really just be play based with literacy being taught and math taught through play and the year should be more focused on getting the kid physically ready (holding a pencil and forming letters) and mentally ready (following directions). None of the K testing focuses on this, fwiw. You can spend 1-2 basically teaching and getting kids caught up.
As a parent I could see it either way. K could be as you describe because right now 1 is a complete re-do of K in so many ways (except they don't review the alphabet). But if they had just slightly more math in K, which I think is reasonable, by the end of 2 they could be doing multiplication facts. That's how I remember childhood math working. I can understand why reading shouldn't be pushed, because of the developmental aspect of it. However they could do a lot of good foundational skills stuff from a structured literacy curriculum in K still. In my experience as a now 3 time K parent, the social studies and science basically ARE play based. And thankfully they have scrapped the iReady for K and just do tests the kids don't even notice as tests. The year my kindergartener did iReady it contributed majorly to stress and pain in their life.
My 2nd grader right now seems to have finally gotten to the place where their class knows how to "do school" on a 2nd grade level, so they are finally digging into the real academics. I'm hopeful because 2nd is such a catch-up year that by the end of the year they might be at a somewhat normal place.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 13:30
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
I said renorming was happening in another thread, but I was guessing local norms. This makes even more sense.
I think the thing that makes me furious for the kids in grades 1-3 is that the data is just useless and we wasted so much time testing and it's like we know. The kids are behind. I am struggling to catch up kids and it's working well because these kids learn tons and truthfully there is a lot to take away, particularly considering the pushing down of academics. In a weird way, a lot of this makes me think all testing in K should be thrown in the trash. The year really just be play based with literacy being taught and math taught through play and the year should be more focused on getting the kid physically ready (holding a pencil and forming letters) and mentally ready (following directions). None of the K testing focuses on this, fwiw. You can spend 1-2 basically teaching and getting kids caught up.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 11:37
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
I said renorming was happening in another thread, but I was guessing local norms. This makes even more sense.
Anonymous
12/02/2021 11:34
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
The raw scores are scaled nationally, folks.
And SUPRISE with a pandemic, this cohort of second graders -- almost all of whom had some form of shitty online learning that wasn't age appropriate -- will have scores all over the place. If anything, considering what happened, I could see the entire validity of the test question because it is premised upon the assumption a second grader is taking the test after being schooled for at least one year (K isn't mandatory but is free).
So, assuming this, what I think is happening is renorming.
But if you want to see something ridiculous, look at the i-ready. The test wasn't re-normed, so the scores were basically derived from previous normal years. So, the percentiles are meaningless. You just know what a kid knows or doesn't (and not even that, i-ready groups results in generic broad categories that cover 10-50 topics), a teacher has no idea what of those topics a kid struggles in, just that one of the 33 learning objectives a kid doesn't get. Useful, huh?
I'm a second grade teacher home with a sick baby. I don't have scores, fwiw. I don't know what my AP has. She's the testing coordinator.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 21:17
Subject: CogAT score is here
Anonymous wrote:I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.
I think you may be right. My DC’s test was completed on 15th October and since it was on the computer, there is no way that the schools do not have the scores. It’s just that they don’t want parents to know before the application deadline.
Anonymous
12/01/2021 21:08
Subject: CogAT score is here
I think it will be mailed on the 16th right after the parent deadline.