Anonymous wrote:I have no connection to any of these schools but I always thought the allure and prestige of Columbia outweighed that of at least Princeton, for sure. Something about the combination of Manhattan/NYC and Ivy results in a very powerful brand. And I've always felt Columbia was always much closer to HYP than the rest of the Ivies.

I take it you're reasonably young?

Columbia's rise has more to do with the resurgence of NYC itself in the post-Giuliani era than anything else. The Felicity effect is very strong lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

Columbia is #2 according to USNews. You may not agree with US News. It shows reasonable minds see Columbia as #2.

Columbia is a safety to HYP…stop kidding yourselves

Princeton is a safety to Yale, Yale is a safety to Harvard. I don’t see what’s so different between Columbia and HYP.

There is no significant difference, and it's really silly to call any of these schools safeties. There are plenty of reasons to choose Columbia (or Dartmouth, or even Brown) over any of the HYP schools, and to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.

But this thread is about finance placement. It doesn't matter how many kids Columbia sends to IB analyst roles each year, a similar kid at Harvard (or Wharton) will have more opportunities than one at Columbia. Hell, these days I might even add Stanford to this list since they have some West Coast buyside options that don't really exist for the usual east coast undergrad target schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

You decided to add UChicago to diminish Columbia’s standing among these schools, but we all know that’s futile rhetoric.

For undergrad, Yale is better than Columbia. But I think you can make a good argument that Columbia is better overall when you consider all the professional schools and grad programs. But keep on preaching that undergrad is the only thing that matters to a school. The hypsm prestige defense squad posters really sound like a broken record, don’t they.

the only broken record is you trying to make the phrase "hypsm prestige defense squad'" a thing.

Especially when nobody from the HYP schools will ever use the acronym "HYPSM," especially not in a thread talking about Wall Street placement.

I have no connection to any of these schools but I always thought the allure and prestige of Columbia outweighed that of at least Princeton, for sure. Something about the combination of Manhattan/NYC and Ivy results in a very powerful brand. And I've always felt Columbia was always much closer to HYP than the rest of the Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolute numbers matter more than per capita. This whole thread is useless.

You can use the link in the OP to see the overall numbers list and the per Capita list. HYPSM do worse in the overall list. Mainly because they are midsized schools. Stanford is 21 and MIT is 29 on the overall list.

The list posted is I believe for IB analyst positions. Anecdotal based on my kid’s internship last summer: MIT and H appear to dominate in quant/hft trading eg 2sigma, hudson trading, jane st, citadel etc. OTOH, 20% of Stanford undergrads are CS majors and probably another 15% are related-cs (symbolic systems and product design)

Hudson River Trading has a list of target schools: Carnegie Mellon, Cornell, Harvard, MIT, Princeton, Stanford, Columbia, Berkeley, UT-Austin, and UIUC. This is from their application page's "Which university are you currently attending" drop-down box.

Two Sigma recruits on campus at MIT, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago: https://careers.twosigma.com/careers/UniversityStudents

Jane Street recruits on campus at Princeton, Stanford, Harvard, Chicago, UT-Austin: https://www.janestreet.com/join-jane-street/events/

Anonymous wrote:Getting really tired with these Columbia boosters. Reeks insecurity all over

The hypsm prestige defense squad reeks even more insecurity when Columbia seemingly places better in investment banking. What heresy!

Anonymous wrote:Getting really tired with these Columbia boosters. Reeks insecurity all over

Getting tired with those pathetic Columbia bashers who seem to have nothing else to do besides ranting incoherently.

Getting really tired with these Columbia boosters. Reeks insecurity all over

Why does every thread eventually become an argument about Columbia? Bashers seem to always find a way to bring in the school in a somewhat unrelated topic every single time.

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

Columbia is #2 according to USNews. You may not agree with US News. It shows reasonable minds see Columbia as #2.

Columbia is a safety to HYP…stop kidding yourselves

Princeton is a safety to Yale, Yale is a safety to Harvard. I don’t see what’s so different between Columbia and HYP.

Columbia is closer to Penn and Brown. Big drop from HYP. Also very poor relative to HYP

And yet Columbia is achieving much more than schools like Princeton, which might have a massive endowment but is still an oversized country club LAC with only arts and sciences.

Do you people not have hobbies or bills to pay?

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

Columbia is #2 according to USNews. You may not agree with US News. It shows reasonable minds see Columbia as #2.

Columbia is a safety to HYP…stop kidding yourselves

Princeton is a safety to Yale, Yale is a safety to Harvard. I don’t see what’s so different between Columbia and HYP.

Columbia is closer to Penn and Brown. Big drop from HYP. Also very poor relative to HYP

And yet Columbia is achieving much more than schools like Princeton, which might have a massive endowment but is still an oversized country club LAC with only arts and sciences.

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

Columbia is #2 according to USNews. You may not agree with US News. It shows reasonable minds see Columbia as #2.

Columbia is a safety to HYP…stop kidding yourselves

Princeton is a safety to Yale, Yale is a safety to Harvard. I don’t see what’s so different between Columbia and HYP.

Columbia is closer to Penn and Brown. Big drop from HYP. Also very poor relative to HYP

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

Columbia is #2 according to USNews. You may not agree with US News. It shows reasonable minds see Columbia as #2.

Columbia is a safety to HYP…stop kidding yourselves

Princeton is a safety to Yale, Yale is a safety to Harvard. I don’t see what’s so different between Columbia and HYP.

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Anonymous wrote:Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Clever.
I will add: "Columbia and UChicago are better than Stanford, MIT and Yale"

Columbia is #2 according to USNews. You may not agree with US News. It shows reasonable minds see Columbia as #2.

Columbia is a safety to HYP…stop kidding yourselves

Anonymous wrote:"Columbia is a liberal, disgraceful institution.”

— Donald J Trump.

Columbia was the only ivy that didn’t discriminate against Jews in 1930’s. If you are to the right, you are not gonna like Columbia. Go ahead, have your kids apply to HYP. It’s all about fit.

Seeing that Trump sent his son, Barron, to Columbia preparatory when they were living in NYC, his secrete dream school must have been Columbia.