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Post 11/04/2022 14:59     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

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Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….


The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.


Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!! This is truly bizarre the GOP set the agenda and Dems end up defending themselves and following the GOP in nonsensical stuff. Some people think that Dems don’t know how to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and that they put too much emphasize on cultural topics that don’t even affect the vast majority of Americans. But I think that’s just another GOP playbook defining Dems this way.

Dems need to step up their political game.


Your entire post is spot on, but I wanted to highlight this in particular. It's really disappointing that Democrats have allowed Republicans to create and run with this narrative, when Republicans have absolutely nothing to offer voters besides contrived culture war wedge issues (trans agenda!! CRT!! grooming!!).
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:57     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….


The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.


Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!! This is truly bizarre the GOP set the agenda and Dems end up defending themselves and following the GOP in nonsensical stuff. Some people think that Dems don’t know how to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and that they put too much emphasize on cultural topics that don’t even affect the vast majority of Americans. But I think that’s just another GOP playbook defining Dems this way.

Dems need to step up their political game.


Campaigning is easier than governing. If some of the MAGA folks running now end up winning then Dems are going to do extremely well in 2024. No amount of cheating or bullshit will save some of thse MAGA folks when they run again.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:53     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….


The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.


Well said. But democrats knew this though I am sure. While we do have inflation the economy is not in a catastrophic state and why on earth didn’t Dems highlight the strong economy??!! This is truly bizarre the GOP set the agenda and Dems end up defending themselves and following the GOP in nonsensical stuff. Some people think that Dems don’t know how to talk to voters about kitchen table issues and that they put too much emphasize on cultural topics that don’t even affect the vast majority of Americans. But I think that’s just another GOP playbook defining Dems this way.

Dems need to step up their political game.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:49     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


Yes stay in your bubble and you will keep loosing elections


Republicans set up their own media ecosystem because they're allergic to facts, but sure, we're the ones living in a bubble.


So you want me to send you tissues for your tears next Tuesday lol


Hey the polls could be wrong you know. GOP will probably take the house but I think Dems will keep the senate. And by the way, the party in the house has a tendency to loose the midterms during their first term. So this is just another pattern we have been seeing. And Dems will probably take back the house in 2024.

To the PP who says Democrats keep losing elections: sorta kinda. But 2018 and 2020 weren’t great for the GOP, so I’m not sure how it’s the Democrats that are in a bubble.

And among voters who have already voted. Of course Republicans will say that it looks like this because Republicans never tell the truth (duh) on polls anymore, but that makes the assumption that Democrats aren’t doing the same.

Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:45     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….


The average voter doesn't have the capacity to keep up with current events, contextualize them, or analyze local, national, and global trends. They'll gladly trade something abstract like democracy for something salient like gas prices that are a nickel cheaper.

Sadly, they'll get exactly what they vote for, and we'll all suffer for it.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:36     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.


100% this. And in my humble opinion this is why the strategy by democrats to emphasize that democracy is on the line was doomed to begin with. I saw on CNBC the other day that 63% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and honestly I was stunned. And also do people really know the meaning of democracy? While it is a simple concept to many people it’s abstract. We are an individualist society and we are so busy with our lives that the entire neighborhood could be burning but as long as our house is not we will go to bed like nothing is happening….
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:30     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…


I think they will be elected because we do not have social safety nets in America. Economy is always the #1 issue. So the strategy of scaring people that the economy is horrible and then a recession is coming will always work. As long as folks don’t have decent healcare, descent wages, affordable housing, etc you can call them MAGA nuts, crazies all you want they will ALWAYS go for the candidate who TRICK them into thinking that he has the answers to their economic suffering.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 14:26     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.


As someone who grew up in the a very Deep South MAGA enclave, I do believe that the way my folks view society and the world is different. And you can call it crazy and you are probably correct. I didn’t realize how different the rest of the country is until I went to college in the northeast. My roommate in college was from Africa and what I found strange was that I was culturally closer to him than many of my other college classmates from the northeast. Anyways I don’t know where we are headed as a country but I don’t know if we are actually all meant to be in the same country. My folks back home are truly crazy. But those folks think I am the Crazy one now.

On Tuesday we will find out. If we are the silent majority (dems) then why how is it possible that election deniers will be elected? I’m really confused…
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:43     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.


100% this.

I'm sure a local Republican dogcatcher or two on the ballot are decent people. At the state and federal level, however, Republicans have chipped away at the decency and democratic norms that have historically underpinned our country. It is not a both sides problem. It is 100% on Republicans.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:34     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

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Anonymous wrote:Three new and final Marist polls for AZ, PA & GA. Marist is an "A" rated pollster.

Likely voters:
AZ Sen: 50-47 Kelly
GA Sen: 48-48
PA Sen: 51-45 Fetterman

Registered voters:

AZ Sen: 49-45 Kelly
GA Sen: 49-45 Warnock
PA Sen: 50-44 Fetterman
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/latest-polls/?fbclid=IwAR0ug8KOFchGZw4x5bsnAv6Sdp0C40JWV5QeGOme02kLiBRFnSH5SXdiMVc


It's going to be very tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano. With a normal candidate for Governor, Oz would win this by three points easily.


You have conflated two separate races. Oz is running against Fetterman for US Senate (from PA). Mastriano is running for PA governor against Shapiro.

And despite Fetterman's bad showing at the debate, he still has a significant lead against Oz in the Senate race. It cut his lead from double digits down to about 5 points like the above polls show. The GOP has been using biased polling that oversamples Republicans to try and show the race is neck-and-neck. If you look at any of the media or independent polls they all show Fetterman with a lead outside the margin of error.

Pennsylvania is one of the states that has had a significantly higher number of women voters register since the Dobbs decision. New voter registration is about 2:1 women to men and the majority of those women are not registering to vote for Dr. "Women's medical decisions should be between the patient, her doctor and her local politician." Also, the young vote (18-25) is trending higher than the last several elections. Again, those young people are significantly more likely to vote Democratic than Republican. Republicans are worried, which is why they've been trying to flood the market with the biased polls that show the race neck-and-neck. I would be surprised if Oz comes within 5 points of Fetterman in the final tally. That would be a very good showing for him.


I haven't conflated anything.


You said it was going to be very tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano. They aren't running for the same office. One is running for US Senate. The other is running for PA Governor. If you didn't conflate them, then you are just don't know what you are talking about.

Haven't you heard of candidates who drag down the rest of the ticket? PP was very clear in making this point.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:33     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.

BoTh SiDeS.

Go away. You offer nothing but dopey platitudes that are neither fresh nor even correct. One party is trying to get rid of democracy and they’re not being subtle about it. That same party is corrupt. That same party is openly stripping women of their rights. You’ll probably buh buh both sides back at me or tell me I’m not being sufficiently polite to win you over. Stuff it. It’s the GOP’s fascist party or the party of decency and normalcy and you’re both sidesing.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:32     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

Fetterman will likely win. A friend in Philly said he would rather for Fetterman even if he ends serving for 30s lol
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:31     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Three new and final Marist polls for AZ, PA & GA. Marist is an "A" rated pollster.

Likely voters:
AZ Sen: 50-47 Kelly
GA Sen: 48-48
PA Sen: 51-45 Fetterman

Registered voters:

AZ Sen: 49-45 Kelly
GA Sen: 49-45 Warnock
PA Sen: 50-44 Fetterman
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/latest-polls/?fbclid=IwAR0ug8KOFchGZw4x5bsnAv6Sdp0C40JWV5QeGOme02kLiBRFnSH5SXdiMVc


It's going to be very tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano. With a normal candidate for Governor, Oz would win this by three points easily.


You have conflated two separate races. Oz is running against Fetterman for US Senate (from PA). Mastriano is running for PA governor against Shapiro.

And despite Fetterman's bad showing at the debate, he still has a significant lead against Oz in the Senate race. It cut his lead from double digits down to about 5 points like the above polls show. The GOP has been using biased polling that oversamples Republicans to try and show the race is neck-and-neck. If you look at any of the media or independent polls they all show Fetterman with a lead outside the margin of error.

Pennsylvania is one of the states that has had a significantly higher number of women voters register since the Dobbs decision. New voter registration is about 2:1 women to men and the majority of those women are not registering to vote for Dr. "Women's medical decisions should be between the patient, her doctor and her local politician." Also, the young vote (18-25) is trending higher than the last several elections. Again, those young people are significantly more likely to vote Democratic than Republican. Republicans are worried, which is why they've been trying to flood the market with the biased polls that show the race neck-and-neck. I would be surprised if Oz comes within 5 points of Fetterman in the final tally. That would be a very good showing for him.


I haven't conflated anything.


You said it was going to be very tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano. They aren't running for the same office. One is running for US Senate. The other is running for PA Governor. If you didn't conflate them, then you are just don't know what you are talking about.


OMG.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:30     Subject: 2022 Senate Map

I am sad for my country. While our division is not new, we are at a whole new level now. Virtue signaling, group like think, hatred for various groups, cult of personalities is defining us now. Both the GOP and Dems put some descent people, who if it were not for this current environment, could actually end up being descent public servants.

Dems will scream on the top of their lungs that GOP are crazies. GOP will scream on the top of their lungs that Dems are crazy.

I wish we had a viable alternative. Both parties actually once you peel the onion are quite similar in terms of economic and defense thinking.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2022 13:26     Subject: Re:2022 Senate Map

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Three new and final Marist polls for AZ, PA & GA. Marist is an "A" rated pollster.

Likely voters:
AZ Sen: 50-47 Kelly
GA Sen: 48-48
PA Sen: 51-45 Fetterman

Registered voters:

AZ Sen: 49-45 Kelly
GA Sen: 49-45 Warnock
PA Sen: 50-44 Fetterman
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/latest-polls/?fbclid=IwAR0ug8KOFchGZw4x5bsnAv6Sdp0C40JWV5QeGOme02kLiBRFnSH5SXdiMVc


It's going to be very tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano. With a normal candidate for Governor, Oz would win this by three points easily.


You have conflated two separate races. Oz is running against Fetterman for US Senate (from PA). Mastriano is running for PA governor against Shapiro.

And despite Fetterman's bad showing at the debate, he still has a significant lead against Oz in the Senate race. It cut his lead from double digits down to about 5 points like the above polls show. The GOP has been using biased polling that oversamples Republicans to try and show the race is neck-and-neck. If you look at any of the media or independent polls they all show Fetterman with a lead outside the margin of error.

Pennsylvania is one of the states that has had a significantly higher number of women voters register since the Dobbs decision. New voter registration is about 2:1 women to men and the majority of those women are not registering to vote for Dr. "Women's medical decisions should be between the patient, her doctor and her local politician." Also, the young vote (18-25) is trending higher than the last several elections. Again, those young people are significantly more likely to vote Democratic than Republican. Republicans are worried, which is why they've been trying to flood the market with the biased polls that show the race neck-and-neck. I would be surprised if Oz comes within 5 points of Fetterman in the final tally. That would be a very good showing for him.


I haven't conflated anything.


You said it was going to be very tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano. They aren't running for the same office. One is running for US Senate. The other is running for PA Governor. If you didn't conflate them, then you are just don't know what you are talking about.


DP, but I believe the PP was making the argument that it would be tough for Oz to overcome Mastriano ['s dragging down the ballot].