Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Sure. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. The rest of us, meanwhile, live in the real world.
LOL you live in a real world where you believe two Ukrainians in a kayak blew up a major undersea pipeline and their own government knew nothing about it. Sure.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Sure. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. The rest of us, meanwhile, live in the real world.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Then why is Russia blowing up a tractor and proudly proclaiming it's a Leopard tank? You'd think they'd have better propaganda material.
One side does propaganda better than the other, I agree with you there. Russia is almost comically bad on that front. They are doing much better than on other fronts though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Then why is Russia blowing up a tractor and proudly proclaiming it's a Leopard tank? You'd think they'd have better propaganda material.
One side does propaganda better than the other, I agree with you there. Russia is almost comically bad on that front. They are doing much better than on other fronts though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Then why is Russia blowing up a tractor and proudly proclaiming it's a Leopard tank? You'd think they'd have better propaganda material.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Sure. Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better. The rest of us, meanwhile, live in the real world.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
the moon is made of cheese!Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
If anything, Ukraine blew the dam to cover their loses of the last few days. Ukraine has lost hundreds of armor and thousands of troops in the last few days, including western tanks like the AMX-10RC. They also looked like conscripts driving around in random directions in equipment they are unfamiliar with. No way Russia floods their own defensive positions and cuts off Crimean water for that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
The dam was damaged by Russia. Everyone knows that.
The pipeline damage was NOT done by Russian government forces, but we're still not sure which anti-government outfit was able to do something so complex, and which nationals were involved (Russian saboteurs, Ukrainians, Europeans from various countries, probably not Americans).
The manned and unammed attacks in Russia are implemented by pro-Ukrainians forces. The boots on the ground may not be Ukrainian nationals, but sympathetic Russians.
All this is easy to understand if you remember that these two countries were in the USSR - there are plenty of Ukrainian Russians, and Russian Ukrainians, on both sides of the conflict. My own Godmother is Russian of Ukrainian origin.
LOL everyone knows that. Sure Jan. EVERYONE. Why not go with the simplest possible explanation? Multiple shelling from both sides has weakened and eventually damaged the dam.
russia mined the dam in October and has been threatening to blow it up since then.
They did this because they panicked about the upcoming counter-offensive.
They even passed a random yet oddly specific new law on May 31st that suspends, until 2028, the requirement for investigations if a hydroelectric dam in the occupied territories gets breeched.
It was russia. russia did this. russia did this because they are scared of another epic humiliation and the flooding provides some limited defensive benefits.
Anonymous wrote:Just as everyone thought:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/06/nord-stream-pipeline-explosion-ukraine-russia/
U.S. had intelligence of detailed Ukrainian plan to attack Nord Stream pipeline
THE DISCORD LEAKS | The CIA learned last June, via a European spy agency, that a six-person team of Ukrainian special operations forces intended to sabotage the Russia-to-Germany natural gas project