We need to have more access to what is going on the supreme court. These people are very powerful with a lot of power over myself, my family.....all of us. I am glad for getting to see this document and think it a better idea that we all get to see the journey all these opinions go through. This should not be secret.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

I think this is one more sign the leaker is from the Thomas/Alito camp rather than one of the liberal justices. This is the second clerk of a liberal justice he has named as the leaker in just two days, and he is clearly trying to deflect attention from the conservative justices.

Which ahole is naming these clerks?

Just assume they all are leakers and send them off to leftist NGOs to work for $50k a year and a $10 signing bonus.

Including Ginni?

Ginni is leaking scotus pre-trial briefing drafts to the press?

DP. Very possibly.

I missed it, which papers were leaked?

White and case needs to know since we don’t hire unethical scotus clerks. And neither do our clients. Especially if we’re dishing out $500k sign on bonuses.

Huh? You know what thread you’re in, right?

Ginni leaked some scotus opinions to the press? When ?

It was just published the other day. So it must have been in the past month.

I thought the hypothesis that it was a right wing leaker was crazy at first. But now I totally think it was. Kavanaugh or Gorsuch must have been waffling while Roberts was trying to recruit one or more to defect to his more moderate 15-weeks step-down of Roe. By leaking this, it will be public on who turned after the initial vote, and that person would be absolutely pilloried by those on the far right (think death threats). This is 100% to put pressure on none of them to defect. And now I see why rivets is so upset. He must have been close to avoiding this being the majority opinion.

So it’s either an ideological clerk on the right or Ginni Thomas from when Clarence was in the hospital. As much as I dislike ACB, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch- they maybe anti-women, but I don’t think they would further risk being seen as even more illegitimate by doing something like this. Clarance and Ginni don’t care and don’t think any rules apply to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

Subpoena the journalist who received and let hackers follow the email and IP addresses.

Can you imagine if pretrial Supreme Court writings were leaked? Besides the federal offense

You’re assuming the draft was transferred electronically. Much safer to give a hard copy.

One thing I have been surprised by in this whole incident is that we haven't seen former Supreme Court clerks coming out of the woodwork to talk about procedure within the Court.

Like, does the Court have audit control on its printers or documents? Does it have any non-networked printers? Are drafts password protected? Do certain Justices require a hard copy come to them in their chambers? Making a hard copy could be really hard to track. Are hard copies tracked and accounted for? Who has access to drafts as they work their way around the building? It also would not surprise me in the least if there were none of these security measures in place.

In any case, unless I have missed it, I haven't seen any talking heads on TV discussing this. I have heard that former clerks have a listserv - maybe the were directed to or decided amongst themselves not to discuss procedures publicly.

There is no general listserve for former clerks. Maybe there is for more recent years. Clerks who clerked for a particular justice tend to have a communication method, as they will do reunions periodically with the justice. And clerks that clerked the same year tend to have a way to communicate. My info isn’t current but none of those security protocols were in place years ago….the justices depend greatly on the discretion of their clerks. Most clerks don’t even like to tell stories about their justices until they have passed on. Personally, I think the whole clerk system falls apart is the judges can’t trust the clerks to be discrete. I think the leak is pretty awful and won’t change anything …. Except maybe it gives D candidates a little more time to fundraise.

It disturbs me that the severe pain of childbirth is left entirely out of the abortion debate. Forcing someone to go through that experience, ignoring all other aspects of forced pregnancy and parenthood, is literal torture. It is traumatizing for many women who voluntarily give birth to healthy babies with a smooth delivery. It’s an immense amount of suffering.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

Subpoena the journalist who received and let hackers follow the email and IP addresses.

Can you imagine if pretrial Supreme Court writings were leaked? Besides the federal offense

You’re assuming the draft was transferred electronically. Much safer to give a hard copy.

One thing I have been surprised by in this whole incident is that we haven't seen former Supreme Court clerks coming out of the woodwork to talk about procedure within the Court.

Like, does the Court have audit control on its printers or documents? Does it have any non-networked printers? Are drafts password protected? Do certain Justices require a hard copy come to them in their chambers? Making a hard copy could be really hard to track. Are hard copies tracked and accounted for? Who has access to drafts as they work their way around the building? It also would not surprise me in the least if there were none of these security measures in place.

In any case, unless I have missed it, I haven't seen any talking heads on TV discussing this. I have heard that former clerks have a listserv - maybe the were directed to or decided amongst themselves not to discuss procedures publicly.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

I think this is one more sign the leaker is from the Thomas/Alito camp rather than one of the liberal justices. This is the second clerk of a liberal justice he has named as the leaker in just two days, and he is clearly trying to deflect attention from the conservative justices.

Which ahole is naming these clerks?

Just assume they all are leakers and send them off to leftist NGOs to work for $50k a year and a $10 signing bonus.

Including Ginni?

Ginni is leaking scotus pre-trial briefing drafts to the press?

DP. Very possibly.

I missed it, which papers were leaked?

White and case needs to know since we don’t hire unethical scotus clerks. And neither do our clients. Especially if we’re dishing out $500k sign on bonuses.

Huh? You know what thread you’re in, right?

Ginni leaked some scotus opinions to the press? When ?

Absolutely. Real proof and real confession.
Get politics and politiking out.

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Aww is the babe afraid he’ll get pelted with wire hangers or shoes or rotten tomatoes or something?

They’re gonna do fruit!

I do hope he is afraid for his life- If every woman in America has potentially had her very life put in jeopardy by his ruling - HE should feel equal risk

First of all, that is a gross thing to say. No one should be afraid for their life. Not Alito, not that poor clerk of Breyer's who had her name leaked as the "likely source" by some right-wing ahole, and not you. Second of all, I am BEGGING UMC white women from Nova to STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT THEM. This isn't about you. Abortion is illegal in McLean or Potomac tomorrow, your dd gets pregnant Friday, on Saturday she's on a plane to Canada. This isn't about you or your dd. It's about millions of low-income POC who can't afford an uber to the airport let alone a plane ticket to Ontario. Stop with the dramatics, go give money to an abortion fund.

Who on earth do you think your yelling at?

Well I was yelling at the idiot who seems to think every woman's life is in jeopardy over this disgrace of an opinion. If you're posting on DCUM you're probably okay.

So we should all sit down and shut up.

Are you channeling Matt Gaetz on purpose or is that just a coincidence?

Guess you didn't read my post. I was saying UMC white women need to stop making this about them and stand up for the people who will really be affected by this. Not everyone's life will be in jeopardy, but as a white feminist you need attention, huh?

I don't think creating divisions between ourselves is the way to go.

Everyone is scared.

I had my second kid in Texas. I had life threatening complications and had an emergency c-section at 32 weeks. It was lucky to get to 32 weeks. I sometimes think of what would have happened if I needed an emergency c-section at 23 or 25 or 26 weeks. Would there have been hesitation? I have an older child. How far would the medical team risk it to avoid being sued or charged with murder if the baby did not survive? I am sure I am not the only one with a story.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

Subpoena the journalist who received and let hackers follow the email and IP addresses.

Can you imagine if pretrial Supreme Court writings were leaked? Besides the federal offense

Just be sure you’ll be okay with the result no matter whose camp the document came from.

I think many conservatives (women and men) would view both a decline in casual sex and liberals leaving their state as a positive effective of the new laws rather than a threat.

Conservatives have been wringing their hands over the declining fertility rate (well, among non-immigrants anyway) and young people are already having less sex.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

I think this is one more sign the leaker is from the Thomas/Alito camp rather than one of the liberal justices. This is the second clerk of a liberal justice he has named as the leaker in just two days, and he is clearly trying to deflect attention from the conservative justices.

Which ahole is naming these clerks?

Just assume they all are leakers and send them off to leftist NGOs to work for $50k a year and a $10 signing bonus.

Including Ginni?

Ginni is leaking scotus pre-trial briefing drafts to the press?

DP. Very possibly.

I missed it, which papers were leaked?

White and case needs to know since we don’t hire unethical scotus clerks. And neither do our clients. Especially if we’re dishing out $500k sign on bonuses.

Huh? You know what thread you’re in, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

I think this is one more sign the leaker is from the Thomas/Alito camp rather than one of the liberal justices. This is the second clerk of a liberal justice he has named as the leaker in just two days, and he is clearly trying to deflect attention from the conservative justices.

Which ahole is naming these clerks?

Just assume they all are leakers and send them off to leftist NGOs to work for $50k a year and a $10 signing bonus.

Including Ginni?

Ginni is leaking scotus pre-trial briefing drafts to the press?

DP. Very possibly.

I missed it, which papers were leaked?

White and case needs to know since we don’t hire unethical scotus clerks. And neither do our clients. Especially if we’re dishing out $500k sign on bonuses.

If White and Case is looking to hire Ginni Thomas, I don't want to hear about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

I think this is one more sign the leaker is from the Thomas/Alito camp rather than one of the liberal justices. This is the second clerk of a liberal justice he has named as the leaker in just two days, and he is clearly trying to deflect attention from the conservative justices.

Which ahole is naming these clerks?

Just assume they all are leakers and send them off to leftist NGOs to work for $50k a year and a $10 signing bonus.

Including Ginni?

Ginni is leaking scotus pre-trial briefing drafts to the press?

DP. Very possibly.

I missed it, which papers were leaked?

White and case needs to know since we don’t hire unethical scotus clerks. And neither do our clients. Especially if we’re dishing out $500k sign on bonuses.

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Anonymous wrote:Have we discussed a right-wing journalist naming a random SCOTUS clerk as the leaker based on nothing but pure speculation (because she has a gender studies degree)? I think the person who leaked should be fired/disbarred but I'm not sure we should be naming random people as the leaker.

Subpoena the journalist who received and let hackers follow the email and IP addresses.

Can you imagine if pretrial Supreme Court writings were leaked? Besides the federal offense

Specifically what crime do you suppose that the leaker committed?