Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:19     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Not gonna lie, Ukraine is awesome fighting as a unified country and peoples. Very inspirational.

I don’t think I would take up arms to support the us. I don’t have much in common with most.

I think people are looking to Zelensky and his leadership but he is fighting for his homeland and his peoples.

The us is just one big economic zone.

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:07     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:07     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:Summary from UK Ministry of Defence

[twitter]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMiEIU8XEAAye11?format=jpg&name=medium[/twitter]

There are street battles in Kyiv right now. The Russians' main objective appears to be killing Zelensky, who's on the phone constantly with world leaders, so they must know where he is.


They are floundering.

Russia of old would’ve just hit him without starting a war over it.

This is trying to save a botched op.

Morale must be shattered.

Nato needs to launch a counter offensive
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:05     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:04     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Summary from UK Ministry of Defence

[twitter]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMiEIU8XEAAye11?format=jpg&name=medium[/twitter]

There are street battles in Kyiv right now. The Russians' main objective appears to be killing Zelensky, who's on the phone constantly with world leaders, so they must know where he is.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 15:01     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

This thread is so rampant with ignorance.
JS should really shut it down.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:57     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



And then watch Putin launch his nuclear arsenal ending the world as we know it.


Assuming Putin is still alive. The threat of nuclear annihilation is all the more reason for a hero general to blow his brains out and offer a peaceful surrender in exchange for reasonable terms and restitution.


This.

If Russia is repelled, this is the perfect opportunity to accelerate a counter strike and solve the Russian question.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:54     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
I recommend watching the Netflix film, "Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom".

Ukraine did not go through all of that just to let the Russians in now.


Thanks for this rec.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:49     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



And then watch Putin launch his nuclear arsenal ending the world as we know it.


Assuming Putin is still alive. The threat of nuclear annihilation is all the more reason for a hero general to blow his brains out and offer a peaceful surrender in exchange for reasonable terms and restitution.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:48     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



Why would “we” do anything. The Ukrainians seem to be handling this just fine without us.


Ukrainians cannot launch counter offensive.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:48     Subject: Re:US has no good options in Ukraine


I recommend watching the Netflix film, "Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom".

Ukraine did not go through all of that just to let the Russians in now.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:41     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



And then watch Putin launch his nuclear arsenal ending the world as we know it.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:41     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.



Why would “we” do anything. The Ukrainians seem to be handling this just fine without us.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:38     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they just surrender, it would
save lives and bloodshed. They are overpowered and outnumbered.


Because this is their homeland. They do not want to be ruled by a tyrant.
You must not understand that for many people, freedom is worth sacrificing one's life.


Well, the person you are responding to likely has tantrums around the freedom not to wear a mask during a pandemic, not understanding what ACTUAL freedom entails.

I mean, the patriots to the PP are the people who attacked the Capitol, whereas in Uktraine, the patriots in Ukraine are DEFENDING the capital.


It does sort of make one realize just how stupid and silly the US has become (Yes I’m pointing at you Trump and Koch acolytes and anyone courting totalitarianism and the unwitting fools caught up in it all)

Ukrainian grandmas armed and ready to give their lives to defend their country and families facing an actual real danger willing to defend their democracy and country. And normal Citizens in Russia willing to go to jail or worse living under a dictator but still protesting what their government, and not a swastika in sight. Really really brings home how absolutely stupid the right wing nuts in this country have become and how they are trying to drag good and decent people lives down. It also can’t help but be reminded of the images from Jan 6 from the capital that were beamed around the world. What a contrast. Wow!

Ugh with your stupid butt hurt wah I don’t want to wear a mask and you can’t make me, ban books that run counter to my personal beliefs, grievances and your stupid sons taking your families weapons stash to movie theaters and kindergarten classrooms to shoot up little kids.

Well guess what this is what it looks like when you get what you want. This doesn’t end well for Ukraine but it really really doesn’t end well for Putin. Stop your histrionics. Button up and get it together. Sniveling fools. You are collectively sick and this country would be so much better off without you.

Rant over.


Yes!!!!!
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2022 14:36     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Russia fails In this operation, we need to be looking at options for a counter offensive.



Assuming Ukraine weathers the storm and Russia retreats back to within her own borders, I think we should maintain the moral high ground. No counter-strike should be made onto Russian soil.

Our quarrel is not with the Russian soldiers or the Russian people.

If Russia retreats, we should resist the impulse for revenge.







What?

That’s some desert storm BS that HW fell for.

No way, drive straight into Minsk, then straight road to moscow.