Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 12:22     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Listen to Malcom Nance, people.

Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 12:17     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win



And JD Vance is out there portraying himself as a man of Appalachia.

Pathetic that people buy this stuff.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 11:37     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

^^the headline is $45 million A MONTH^^
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 11:36     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:Make way for the Oligarchy and Technocracy




The influence of tech money (which the right claims is for the left, but again, more projection) will mean unfetterered unregulated tech penetration, AI, etc into our society. If you think TikTok or Twitter are bad now, just wait...


Whatever they'll be donating will be dwarfed by what Elon Musk is planning to donate.

Elon Musk plans to give $45 million a mon to pro-Trump super PAC, WSJ reports
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/15/elon-musk-plans-to-give-45-million-a-month-to-pro-trump-super-pac-wsj-reports.html
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 11:32     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

I thought the GOP was for supporting the lives of living children in addition to the unborn?




I guess not.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 10:47     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Make way for the Oligarchy and Technocracy




The influence of tech money (which the right claims is for the left, but again, more projection) will mean unfetterered unregulated tech penetration, AI, etc into our society. If you think TikTok or Twitter are bad now, just wait...
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 09:29     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous
Post 07/16/2024 09:29     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

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Anonymous
Post 07/15/2024 16:41     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WSJ today

“Project 2025 Has a Radical Agenda for Trump. He Has Other Plans.“

As former President Donald Trump prepares to accept the Republican nomination, he has suggested he has no interest in using the trove of planning work assembled by Project 2025 and other outside groups that have spent years preparing for his return to the White House. Trump has privately expressed annoyance that Project 2025 has received so much attention, and he resents the notion that the group is ghostwriting his policies and choosing candidates to fill the top ranks of his administration, according to associates. Those frustrations boiled over last week when Trump distanced himself from the group. “I know nothing about Project 2025,” he said, adding that some of its recommendations are “absolutely ridiculous.”

While Trump’s decision to criticize Project 2025 was politically expedient, people close to the former president said he has at times been genuinely frustrated with the group. His ire centers on two issues: He believes that outside groups like Project 2025 are raising money using his name and he thinks they are overstepping by gathering names for high-profile cabinet positions.



This will be ignored.

Project 2025 and abortion is all the Democrats have at this point.
They certainly cannot run on their agenda.


+100
This whole thread is a joke of LWNJs desperately using anything they hope will stick, regardless of whether it’s true or not. They’re assuming no one will call out their lies. Project 2025 is not Trump’s agenda, but they sure seem to want it to be.
DP


Tell it to Trump

Anonymous
Post 07/15/2024 11:16     Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:Deporting millions of people - that is a campaign promise - how will that work exactly?




And what if other countries won't accept these people, them what?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2024 19:44     Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:Deporting millions of people - that is a campaign promise - how will that work exactly?



Apparently Trump addressed this in a sit-down interview with Time magazine. I think he's talking out of his a** as usual since it will be very hard to carry this out on the local level and it will be fought in state courts. But it sure does sound good to the base. Still, the rhetoric he uses is damaging and so unAmerican.

The topic on which Trump had the most concrete details is his plan to deport many millions of undocumented immigrants. Trump repeated false claims that many migrants are former prisoners or have been institutionalized in their home countries. CNN has reported there is no data to support the idea that a rise in immigrants drives a rise in crime. Most measures of violent crime in the US have actually been falling.

While he didn’t use the derogatory term, Trump pointed to “Operation Wetback,” the deportation initiative taken along the border with Mexico during the Eisenhower administration, as a model. In 1954, border officials worked with local law enforcement to, they claimed, round up more than 1 million Mexican nationals and move them to the Mexico side of the border. Historians, as CNN reported in 2016, have argued that far fewer people were actually deported, since many people were apprehended multiple times. They also note that many US citizens were caught up in the dragnet and mistakenly deported.

Rather than work with Democrats, Trump wants to militarize the issue, but he would start by using local police forces and focusing on any migrants with a criminal record. Trump was asked if his effort would include the military “It would,” Trump said, adding, “when we talk military, generally speaking, I talk National Guard.”

He added that he would “have no problem using the military, per se,” although he thinks the National Guard would suffice. He does not think that laws meant to prevent the use of the military against civilians inside the US without congressional approval would apply to his effort. “These aren’t civilians,” Trump said of migrants. “These are people that aren’t legally in our country. This is an invasion of our country.” He also repeated the conspiracy theory, for which there is no evidence, that “fighting age” males from China are somehow embedding themselves in the US.

What about massive migrant camps? Trump tried to downplay the idea that there would be massive camps of detained migrants like those described to The New York Times by his immigration policy mastermind Stephen Miller, since, according to Trump, he would be deporting people so fast. “We’re not leaving them in the country. We’re bringing them out,” he said. When asked under what authority he would make all of this happen, Trump suggested he would use federal money to pressure local police.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/politics/trump-immigration-what-matters/index.html

Anonymous
Post 07/14/2024 19:19     Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Deporting millions of people - that is a campaign promise - how will that work exactly?



Mass deportations is indeed one of the 20 GOP platform promises. I don’t think they’ve sketched it out yet. But it’s an appealing notion for their supporters so they probably can get away with being vague about it initially. In practice, it will be very hard since undocumented people live in local communities, not at the national level. A MAGA government will not find every local community as compliant as they may like in terms of finding and turning over undocumented people. Imagine the photos coming out of mass roundups and deportations of hundreds of thousands or millions of people. Not a good look. I highly doubt they’ll get very far with that before there’s a public outcry or before the legal system intervenes.


Isn't the plan for Trump to declare a national emergency and use ICE/national guard/military to round people up? One morning while eating breakfast will I watch them pull up and just start throwing the neighbor's gardening crew into a truck? Or will I be sitting in my favorite Mexican restaurant when they burst in and take away the busboys and dishwashers?

How will they tell who is undocumented? And I guess corruption will be rife as businesses pay people off so they can keep their workers.

And who will do their jobs?

Any GOPers want to tackle this one, because it is something that seems to be Trump's top priority.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2024 17:28     Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:Deporting millions of people - that is a campaign promise - how will that work exactly?



Mass deportations is indeed one of the 20 GOP platform promises. I don’t think they’ve sketched it out yet. But it’s an appealing notion for their supporters so they probably can get away with being vague about it initially. In practice, it will be very hard since undocumented people live in local communities, not at the national level. A MAGA government will not find every local community as compliant as they may like in terms of finding and turning over undocumented people. Imagine the photos coming out of mass roundups and deportations of hundreds of thousands or millions of people. Not a good look. I highly doubt they’ll get very far with that before there’s a public outcry or before the legal system intervenes.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2024 17:06     Subject: Re:Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Deporting millions of people - that is a campaign promise - how will that work exactly?


Anonymous
Post 07/14/2024 16:46     Subject: Project 2025 if Trump were to win

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WSJ today

“Project 2025 Has a Radical Agenda for Trump. He Has Other Plans.“

As former President Donald Trump prepares to accept the Republican nomination, he has suggested he has no interest in using the trove of planning work assembled by Project 2025 and other outside groups that have spent years preparing for his return to the White House. Trump has privately expressed annoyance that Project 2025 has received so much attention, and he resents the notion that the group is ghostwriting his policies and choosing candidates to fill the top ranks of his administration, according to associates. Those frustrations boiled over last week when Trump distanced himself from the group. “I know nothing about Project 2025,” he said, adding that some of its recommendations are “absolutely ridiculous.”

While Trump’s decision to criticize Project 2025 was politically expedient, people close to the former president said he has at times been genuinely frustrated with the group. His ire centers on two issues: He believes that outside groups like Project 2025 are raising money using his name and he thinks they are overstepping by gathering names for high-profile cabinet positions.



This will be ignored.

Project 2025 and abortion is all the Democrats have at this point.
They certainly cannot run on their agenda.


History speaks for itself. In 2016, Trump used Heritage Foundation for his Transition Team and rubberstamped 2/3rds of the Heritage Foundation's plan. And now he claims to not know anything about them.



Exactly.

Lying liars lie.

+1
Plus pretty much everything in Project 2025 is what the GOP is already doing or trying, with the added facet of destroying the apolitical nature of the government and making it corrupt, though I guess the Roberts Court is doing that too.


Exactly

Which makes the GOP pretending about it silly.

The GOP is who they have become: they’re a party of wretches, monsters trying to destroy the America that, on paper at least, protects everyone and treats all equally. They don’t like that. They want a nation, starting on paper, where the haves are prioritized and the have nots punished. They want a nation that calls itself Christian. They want a nation that rewards cruelty.

And it’s where they’ve been for the last few years, though the “mainstream media” has not wanted to connect the dots.


And then they try to gaslight us about it.

They do. As a party bereft of morals and ethics, what else have they got? Half the stuff in Project 2025 the GOP is already acting on. None of it is totally new and the horrible, totally anti-democratic, establish a dictatorship stuff has been broadly hinted to for years as well. The GOP has had a sick authoritarian streak for years but they tarted it up sufficiently that people could spin it other ways. Project 2025 unmasks it but most voters don’t want that.