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Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I am genuinely sad for the 19yr old.

sad because he’s younger than the rest? It is sad, sad that all the men died. He wasn’t a baby. God, some people have kids at 19, they have jobs, responsibilities. Why are we acting like he was 9? If his father was abusive and forced him into the crap device, then that’s concerning, but that’s not the case here. Do we feel this bad if a 19 year old has a motorcycle accident while riding with his dad? Or if a 19 year old dies while sky diving with Dad? I feel equal sorrow for everyone. The dad was only 48, he was very young also.

Yeah I mean it struck me that the dad's own dad is in his late 70s/early 80s. That man lost a son and a grandson.

I feel for the families. But yeah, a 48 year old has potentially another 50 years of life, even the oldest man was 77 years young. Sadly, you can die at any age. These men were robbed of life, they made one bad decision, like many people do, and that’s it, show’s over.

They weren't robbed; they made a choice (minus the kid). Robbed is being murdered, killed by a drunk driver, plane crash etc. Signing a waiver that notes "death" in it four times is a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:So per the kid's older sister, he didn't want to go on the sub and only did it bc it was Fathers Day/his father was Titanic obsessed (others had dropped out so seats opened up). Per his aunt - he was terrified of going and had expressed to other family members that he was terrified.

Wow. Learn to say no - even to mommy and daddy - folks. Or as I said before why on earth could mom not step in here and tell DH he was free to do what he wanted but her DS wasn't going esp since he was terrified!?

What makes you think the mother had any say in this matter? Different culture.

The mother is white/British. She's not a subservient Pakistani woman - and btw if you think Pakistani women are subservient with respect to their baby boys lol you don't know our culture. Mama always wins re her kids and esp her son at this age.

The culture issue may not be Pakistani vs European culture as much as billionaire culture. We don't know how this guy was - he actually wasn't a billionaire, "only" worth hundreds of millions. We don't know if this was a family where daddy was like you live this life because of MY money, MY empire, we'll do things MY way - and everyone went with it because of course they liked their rich lifestyle.

The guy was 19 yrs old, not 9. I mean really. I know kids are taking longer to grow up these days but man, he was 19. He could’ve said no, my kids refuse to go everywhere with me. Not blaming him but let’s not act like he was a child.

I agree with you but LOTS of 19 year old MEN these days may as well be 9. Hell lots of 25 year old men these days aren't their own man yet. All I'm saying is it isn't hard for a rich daddy to influence a 19 year old in this day and age.

They may as well be 9, but they aren’t 9. Huge difference. 25 year olds may as well be 12. It’s sad he had a rich dad. A shame he had no autonomy.

Look, no one twisted the 19 year old man’s arm to ride that crap device.

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Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I am genuinely sad for the 19yr old.

sad because he’s younger than the rest? It is sad, sad that all the men died. He wasn’t a baby. God, some people have kids at 19, they have jobs, responsibilities. Why are we acting like he was 9? If his father was abusive and forced him into the crap device, then that’s concerning, but that’s not the case here. Do we feel this bad if a 19 year old has a motorcycle accident while riding with his dad? Or if a 19 year old dies while sky diving with Dad? I feel equal sorrow for everyone. The dad was only 48, he was very young also.

Yeah I mean it struck me that the dad's own dad is in his late 70s/early 80s. That man lost a son and a grandson.

I feel for the families. But yeah, a 48 year old has potentially another 50 years of life, even the oldest man was 77 years young. Sadly, you can die at any age. These men were robbed of life, they made one bad decision, like many people do, and that’s it, show’s over.

They weren't robbed; they made a choice (minus the kid). Robbed is being murdered, killed by a drunk driver, plane crash etc. Signing a waiver that notes "death" in it four times is a choice.

Anonymous wrote:If the Twitter report at 18:26 is true (that they were trying to release ballast at the time comms were lost) they probably imploded because they were descending too fast. Per the expert quoted in this article, descending too fast can cause excess stress on the vehicle. You try to descend in a controlled manner is so that everything in the vehicle has the ability to acclimate to the increased pressure.

https://www.wfla.com/news/national/rescuers-make-a-last-desperate-push-as-final-hours-of-oxygen-on-the-missing-titanic-sub-tick-down/

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Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.

I’d sooner divorce or even kidnap my kid than allow my DH do this. Never ever in a million years.
Honestly, what a sh&tty father.

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Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I am genuinely sad for the 19yr old.

sad because he’s younger than the rest? It is sad, sad that all the men died. He wasn’t a baby. God, some people have kids at 19, they have jobs, responsibilities. Why are we acting like he was 9? If his father was abusive and forced him into the crap device, then that’s concerning, but that’s not the case here. Do we feel this bad if a 19 year old has a motorcycle accident while riding with his dad? Or if a 19 year old dies while sky diving with Dad? I feel equal sorrow for everyone. The dad was only 48, he was very young also.

Yeah I mean it struck me that the dad's own dad is in his late 70s/early 80s. That man lost a son and a grandson.

I feel for the families. But yeah, a 48 year old has potentially another 50 years of life, even the oldest man was 77 years young. Sadly, you can die at any age. These men were robbed of life, they made one bad decision, like many people do, and that’s it, show’s over.

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Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I am genuinely sad for the 19yr old.

sad because he’s younger than the rest? It is sad, sad that all the men died. He wasn’t a baby. God, some people have kids at 19, they have jobs, responsibilities. Why are we acting like he was 9? If his father was abusive and forced him into the crap device, then that’s concerning, but that’s not the case here. Do we feel this bad if a 19 year old has a motorcycle accident while riding with his dad? Or if a 19 year old dies while sky diving with Dad? I feel equal sorrow for everyone. The dad was only 48, he was very young also.

Yeah I mean it struck me that the dad's own dad is in his late 70s/early 80s. That man lost a son and a grandson.

Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:“These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans." -- Statement from Oceangate

They use the word explorers repeatedly. They were not all explorers - three of them were CUSTOMERS.

I'd like to know exactly what the "true explorers" did to protect the world's oceans - especially a 19 year old.

Does Oceangate really think we are all so gullible as to believe this??

Please! Respect the 48 hour rule if nothing else.

Agree.

These men are heroes.

Umm, no.

Are sky divers heroes? how about base jumpers? Race car drivers? Stunt people? Are they also heroes?

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Anonymous wrote:“WASHINGTON—A top secret U.S. Navy acoustic detection system designed to spot enemy submarines first heard the Titan sub implosion hours after the submersible began its mission, officials involved in the search said.
The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-days-ago-6844cb12

If they knew that why did they send so many ships and planes? Or are they only realizing this in retrospect?

Likely retrospect. Plus they didn't KNOW for sure that it was the Titan imploding. Until they had confirmation they couldn't just be like - well we detected a boom around that time, that was prob your guys, oh well. So they sent whatever assets they had that could get there- which up until last night was just planes and ships that couldn't get down that deep.