Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:25     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:suicide because he can't live with what he's done.


I believe this--I bet he offed himself. I don't think he looks like a psychopath or one who would be unaffected by his actions. He seems like a normal guy who snapped and did something terrible in a fit of rage. I've watched that video about 15 times and he looks at her kindly and with affection throughout it.
Yes, he should pay with his life (life in prison or the death penalty). No, I'm not defending his actions. Yes, I think he should pay for his crime. No I'm not victim blaming.



+1.
This isn't a movie where he comes up with an amazing detailed plan and escaped from the U.S.


He didn’t need an amazingly detailed plan and he had three weeks or more to come up with what to do. And had parents with liquid wealth who he came back to. Most people facing certain jail sentence in a case like this would probably at least try to run. With some smarts and some money it’s not that hard to run.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:21     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:suicide because he can't live with what he's done.


I believe this--I bet he offed himself. I don't think he looks like a psychopath or one who would be unaffected by his actions. He seems like a normal guy who snapped and did something terrible in a fit of rage. I've watched that video about 15 times and he looks at her kindly and with affection throughout it.
Yes, he should pay with his life (life in prison or the death penalty). No, I'm not defending his actions. Yes, I think he should pay for his crime. No I'm not victim blaming.


“Normal guys” don’t snap in “a fit of rage” and kill people. Do not normalize this.


He didn't and doesn't at all act like a "normal" guy. It's scary people are trying to "normalize" this white guy--and I am a white woman. I have known an unfortunate number of these types of guys and they are anything but "normal."
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:18     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:suicide because he can't live with what he's done.


I believe this--I bet he offed himself. I don't think he looks like a psychopath or one who would be unaffected by his actions. He seems like a normal guy who snapped and did something terrible in a fit of rage. I've watched that video about 15 times and he looks at her kindly and with affection throughout it.
Yes, he should pay with his life (life in prison or the death penalty). No, I'm not defending his actions. Yes, I think he should pay for his crime. No I'm not victim blaming.



+1.
This isn't a movie where he comes up with an amazing detailed plan and escaped from the U.S.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:18     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:suicide because he can't live with what he's done.


I believe this--I bet he offed himself. I don't think he looks like a psychopath or one who would be unaffected by his actions. He seems like a normal guy who snapped and did something terrible in a fit of rage. I've watched that video about 15 times and he looks at her kindly and with affection throughout it.
Yes, he should pay with his life (life in prison or the death penalty). No, I'm not defending his actions. Yes, I think he should pay for his crime. No I'm not victim blaming.


“Normal guys” don’t snap in “a fit of rage” and kill people. Do not normalize this.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:17     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Fox news: Brian Laundrie is a dick at restaurants

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-argued-in-wyoming-restaurant-eyewitnesses

If this is true, add Aug 27 as sighting of Gabby alive to timeline



Hmmm, I'd wondered when we get the connection between Brian and Wyoming and why he buried Gabby there. Apparently they were traveling through Wyoming, not Utah (which is where the police picked them up), when he killed her.

Angelo said she and her boyfriend, Matthew England, were in town for a wedding in late August. They were out to lunch at Merry Piglets, a Tex-Mex restaurant, between 1 and 2 p.m. on Aug. 27, when they said an agitated Laundrie began arguing with a waitress. Four and a half hours later, a travel-blogging couple passed Petito's van at a campsite north of town.

Angelo, a photographer, said she couldn’t overhear the conversation but that she believed Laundrie was arguing with staff over the bill or about money. She described his body language as "aggressive" and said he left and returned about four times.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:15     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:suicide because he can't live with what he's done.


I believe this--I bet he offed himself. I don't think he looks like a psychopath or one who would be unaffected by his actions. He seems like a normal guy who snapped and did something terrible in a fit of rage. I've watched that video about 15 times and he looks at her kindly and with affection throughout it.
Yes, he should pay with his life (life in prison or the death penalty). No, I'm not defending his actions. Yes, I think he should pay for his crime. No I'm not victim blaming.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 17:14     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Fox news: Brian Laundrie is a dick at restaurants

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-argued-in-wyoming-restaurant-eyewitnesses

If this is true, add Aug 27 as sighting of Gabby alive to timeline

Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:57     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Brian’s attorney’s 5 word statement “ May Gabby Rest In Peace” was called disgusting by Gabby’s Uncle. “As far as the law is concerned this law firm may be immune due to attorney/client privilege," Steve Petito wrote on his Instagram page.  
"But in the eyes of the public you are as guilty and complicit with this massive cover-up and stalling tactic,".
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:51     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:suicide because he can't live with what he's done.


He would have taken his life in his abandoned car or better yet - his childhood bedroom if that was the case. Right after he killed that girl. Instead he ran more than two weeks later.

He has no remorse about it. She was just an irritation.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:49     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
suicide because he can't live with what he's done.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:47     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
I think they’ve completely lost the scent, and are hoping for a miracle.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:47     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This guy is long gone. He was very smart in how he handled it all. He had two weeks to think things through. I think he thought there was a good chance she would never be found, and likely assumed that AT MINIMUM it would have taken WAY longer, but he clearly got his ducks in a row. He didn't say a thing to the police and he got out of dodge as soon as the youtube video surfaced. I'm sure his parents helped. We'll never see him again. He has not really slipped up one time in exposing himself other than coming back to Florida with the van but he had to show back up somewhere eventually. I'm sure he had a plan cooked up with his family before his tires touched florida ground.


so what's the long term plan? He has no passport (at least one that won't set off alarms) and far from enough money to never work again.


I mean he will never live a 'normal' life again but he can most certainly live a life that is better than one in prison under the radar. He can do labor work for cash and just blend in. I'd be shocked if he wasn't in Mexico by now. I'm sure his parents hooked him up with 50 grand, handed over in cash and he gets down and sets up a bank account with a bribe. Pays for some fake-ish papers. He will lay low for a year or two and then use some assumed identity to just live a quiet life somewhere, probably somewhere out of the country. In 10 years, he will have aged enough that no one would recognize him, he could easily come back with a beard and 30 pounds of weight added and steal an identity and no one would ever know.

Criminals get caught because they are stupid. Most of them are VERY stupid. But if you are a smart person and you set out to commit a crime and not get caught, the odds are in your favor. And while the guy seems like a horrific human being, he does NOT seem stupid.


if he managed to cross the border into Mexico (remember no passport or ID, so not easy), I'd expect that whoever helped him cross now has his money and is either demanding more from his parents before killing him or has already killed him


If some mexican body smuggler is even paying attention to the news. When he disappeared it wasn't the story it is today. And he has a generic face. He's already gone melted into the crowds, how would the smugglers find him?


An American trying to cross into Mexico without ID would be about as easy target as anyone could think of even no one knows who he is


If he had a passport, why would he have to sneak across without an ID? You don't have to go through US customs if you drive across. You just show your passport to Mexican customs, who may or may not even have a scanner depending on how remote the crossing is. Mexican officials aren't looking for illegal crossers. That is the other direction. He wouldn't have even needed a smuggler. Just a car that wouldn't be traced to him and a slightly modified appearance. And remember, no one saw him for two weeks. That guy grew out a beard, died his hair, and skedaddled. And as a result everyone is looking for some skinhead skinny dude from that police stop and in reality his hair is probably longer, got a pair of fake glasses and a goatee and he looks like a hipster from Portland. I think some of you really want to believe that the bad guys can/will always get caught.

Again, criminals are dumb, if you are smart, you can get away with almost anything. Except tax fraud.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:41     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This guy is long gone. He was very smart in how he handled it all. He had two weeks to think things through. I think he thought there was a good chance she would never be found, and likely assumed that AT MINIMUM it would have taken WAY longer, but he clearly got his ducks in a row. He didn't say a thing to the police and he got out of dodge as soon as the youtube video surfaced. I'm sure his parents helped. We'll never see him again. He has not really slipped up one time in exposing himself other than coming back to Florida with the van but he had to show back up somewhere eventually. I'm sure he had a plan cooked up with his family before his tires touched florida ground.


so what's the long term plan? He has no passport (at least one that won't set off alarms) and far from enough money to never work again.


I mean he will never live a 'normal' life again but he can most certainly live a life that is better than one in prison under the radar. He can do labor work for cash and just blend in. I'd be shocked if he wasn't in Mexico by now. I'm sure his parents hooked him up with 50 grand, handed over in cash and he gets down and sets up a bank account with a bribe. Pays for some fake-ish papers. He will lay low for a year or two and then use some assumed identity to just live a quiet life somewhere, probably somewhere out of the country. In 10 years, he will have aged enough that no one would recognize him, he could easily come back with a beard and 30 pounds of weight added and steal an identity and no one would ever know.

Criminals get caught because they are stupid. Most of them are VERY stupid. But if you are a smart person and you set out to commit a crime and not get caught, the odds are in your favor. And while the guy seems like a horrific human being, he does NOT seem stupid.


if he managed to cross the border into Mexico (remember no passport or ID, so not easy), I'd expect that whoever helped him cross now has his money and is either demanding more from his parents before killing him or has already killed him


If some mexican body smuggler is even paying attention to the news. When he disappeared it wasn't the story it is today. And he has a generic face. He's already gone melted into the crowds, how would the smugglers find him?


An American trying to cross into Mexico without ID would be about as easy target as anyone could think of even no one knows who he is
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:39     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If the Laundrie parents were so concerned about their "missing" son, why weren't they out there looking for him? Why would they bring his car back home and essentially leave him in the reserve without transportation? Why weren't they on every news station pleading for their son's safe return? Because they knew in advance that he had murdered her and helped him get away, that's why. Why can't the police bring charges against these people for obstructing justice? don't they have bank records? flight records? phone records? something?!? Why are we searching in swamps instead of interrogating the very people who know his whereabouts? We're wasting a ton of resources on searching for this guy-the parents know.


This is all happening (probably with the exception of bringing charges because so far there’s no way to tell about that and the parents have probably been interviewed with a lawyer now). You won’t know about it until an arrest affidavit is released, for a lot of reasons.

The FBI already knows if he left the United States by air or if the parents flew sometime in the questionable timeline. They’re not going to release that but I would say all indicators look like no.

The amount of digital evidence in this case is likely staggering. I don’t know if he has any kind of phone on him now (but if I had to guess I would guess no). But they will have a huge amount of evidence to sift through from when he did, even if they can’t obtain the device (I believe they said they did but I’m not 100% positive). You need a warrant for most back end data and then it has to be analyzed by someone certified. This process can take awhile in terms of charging but will be guiding the investigation/search throughout as they receive it.

As far as dive teams etc they can be looking for evidence too not just a POI. It’s likely they have a reason to believe something of evidentiary value was tossed into that water. Could have happened recently or days ago. That reason might be finding something else nearby that is suspicious or could be connected to BL, or the terrain appeared disturbed in some way (based on drone footage or grid searches).

I personally doubt even his parents know his exact location at this point. I’m sure they have an idea of what could be possible.



Not necessarily. I know plenty of people in Florida with private small planes that don't even file flight plans. The narcos sure don't.


The parents gave him $$$ and a plan. There's no way he came up with this on his own. They helped him set off for some destination (Mexico perhaps?)? They know what general direction he was headed in. They know. Even if he does end up dust, I hope these people are held responsible.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2021 16:35     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This guy is long gone. He was very smart in how he handled it all. He had two weeks to think things through. I think he thought there was a good chance she would never be found, and likely assumed that AT MINIMUM it would have taken WAY longer, but he clearly got his ducks in a row. He didn't say a thing to the police and he got out of dodge as soon as the youtube video surfaced. I'm sure his parents helped. We'll never see him again. He has not really slipped up one time in exposing himself other than coming back to Florida with the van but he had to show back up somewhere eventually. I'm sure he had a plan cooked up with his family before his tires touched florida ground.


so what's the long term plan? He has no passport (at least one that won't set off alarms) and far from enough money to never work again.


I mean he will never live a 'normal' life again but he can most certainly live a life that is better than one in prison under the radar. He can do labor work for cash and just blend in. I'd be shocked if he wasn't in Mexico by now. I'm sure his parents hooked him up with 50 grand, handed over in cash and he gets down and sets up a bank account with a bribe. Pays for some fake-ish papers. He will lay low for a year or two and then use some assumed identity to just live a quiet life somewhere, probably somewhere out of the country. In 10 years, he will have aged enough that no one would recognize him, he could easily come back with a beard and 30 pounds of weight added and steal an identity and no one would ever know.

Criminals get caught because they are stupid. Most of them are VERY stupid. But if you are a smart person and you set out to commit a crime and not get caught, the odds are in your favor. And while the guy seems like a horrific human being, he does NOT seem stupid.


if he managed to cross the border into Mexico (remember no passport or ID, so not easy), I'd expect that whoever helped him cross now has his money and is either demanding more from his parents before killing him or has already killed him


If some mexican body smuggler is even paying attention to the news. When he disappeared it wasn't the story it is today. And he has a generic face. He's already gone melted into the crowds, how would the smugglers find him?