Anonymous
07/12/2025 17:19
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Many non-believers do believe that believers are "wrong"...hence the use of terms like "idiots", "sheep", etc. etc. to describe them, as well as terms like "sky fairies" to poke fun at someone's beliefs. Don't ask believers to "grow up", when non-believers are also exhibiting childish behavior that you apparently don't like.
The justification is Faith. Period. Either you accept that, or you don't.
I don't accept that. I did, for a long time. I had religious faith too. Then I thought about it, very seriously, and studied it, as I have studied many subjects. I realized that I really wanted to go to heaven and live forever. And eventually, I realized that heaven made no sense.
So what. Your personal opinion is just that.
Other people have different journeys. Some convert to Christianity after a life of disbelief.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 17:13
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Many non-believers do believe that believers are "wrong"...hence the use of terms like "idiots", "sheep", etc. etc. to describe them, as well as terms like "sky fairies" to poke fun at someone's beliefs. Don't ask believers to "grow up", when non-believers are also exhibiting childish behavior that you apparently don't like.
The justification is Faith. Period. Either you accept that, or you don't.
I don't accept that. I did, for a long time. I had religious faith too. Then I thought about it, very seriously, and studied it, as I have studied many subjects. I realized that I really wanted to go to heaven and live forever. And eventually, I realized that heaven made no sense.
That's fine. You do you. Let others do theirs.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 17:08
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
My belief brings me peace and comfort in scary situations, serenity in health crises, courage when I sm scared.
I don't expect heaven or hell. I hope my husband and I and our late pets will somehow be together. That hope is comforting when thinking of DH dying before me. I doubt I will find out I am wrong.
I don't expect heaven or hell. I hope my husband and I and our late pets will somehow be together. That hope is comforting when thinking of DH dying before me. I doubt I will find out I am wrong.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 16:58
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Many non-believers do believe that believers are "wrong"...hence the use of terms like "idiots", "sheep", etc. etc. to describe them, as well as terms like "sky fairies" to poke fun at someone's beliefs. Don't ask believers to "grow up", when non-believers are also exhibiting childish behavior that you apparently don't like.
The justification is Faith. Period. Either you accept that, or you don't.
I don't accept that. I did, for a long time. I had religious faith too. Then I thought about it, very seriously, and studied it, as I have studied many subjects. I realized that I really wanted to go to heaven and live forever. And eventually, I realized that heaven made no sense.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 15:46
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Okay. How would you talk about college with someone who didn’t believe that a college education existed?
Someone who thinks that people pay a lot of money and go to college for four years in order to maintain some kind of social standing and to be accepted into their families who might otherwise shun them, or at least be very disappointed and bring it up frequently. That the families are upset not because they care about their family member and believe they would benefit from a college education, but because they have been brainwashed into thinking a college education is real.
However, this person tells you, there isn’t actually anything that is real or valuable happening at colleges or universities. Their main function is in brainwashing the people who attend into thinking they have some kind of value, and anyone with any kind of critical thinking skills could see that higher education is a sham.
How would you respond to these people? And what if every thread on the college board was overrun by them?
I’m quoting myself again just to say that anyone who has gone to college and is looking at spending a lot of time and money to send their kids to college has thought about these questions.
These questions aren’t new or radical or without merit. They have been asked for hundreds of years. And if someone grappling with these things asked the questions, it would be and often is an interesting discussion.
However, the person asking them here is not open minded or genuinely looking for a discussion. They are 100% sure they have the correct answer.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 15:43
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Many non-believers do believe that believers are "wrong"...hence the use of terms like "idiots", "sheep", etc. etc. to describe them, as well as terms like "sky fairies" to poke fun at someone's beliefs. Don't ask believers to "grow up", when non-believers are also exhibiting childish behavior that you apparently don't like.
The justification is Faith. Period. Either you accept that, or you don't.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 15:35
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Okay. How would you talk about college with someone who didn’t believe that a college education existed?
Someone who thinks that people pay a lot of money and go to college for four years in order to maintain some kind of social standing and to be accepted into their families who might otherwise shun them, or at least be very disappointed and bring it up frequently. That the families are upset not because they care about their family member and believe they would benefit from a college education, but because they have been brainwashed into thinking a college education is real.
However, this person tells you, there isn’t actually anything that is real or valuable happening at colleges or universities. Their main function is in brainwashing the people who attend into thinking they have some kind of value, and anyone with any kind of critical thinking skills could see that higher education is a sham.
How would you respond to these people? And what if every thread on the college board was overrun by them?
Anonymous
07/12/2025 15:16
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You can take as many personal shots as you like. I don't think any atheists here are angry, except maybe about one thing:
How you believers often won't answer simple questions.
I am not saying your beliefs are wrong. I am asking how you justify them since there seems to be no significant evidence for them. If you take that as "trying" to "prove you wrong", well, that's your issue. This is a discussion forum, after all, and if you're not prepared to discuss things, maybe you should not participate in discussion?
I would encourage you to grow up and if you are going to engage be prepared to explain your religious beliefs the same way you might with someone who disagreed with you on any other topic on DCUM. Gardening, colleges, investing, health, and yes, politics.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:59
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+10000 well said! No one throws their religion onto these atheists or makes them feel small or terrible for not believing in God. It is truly one way.
Are you saying that you're feeling small and terrible for believing in God?? If you no longer believed in God, maybe you wouldn't feel so small and terrible.
I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing. PP said that atheists make them feel this way on this board. Re-read the post. SMH.
Pp asked a question for which they have not yet received an answer.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:51
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
I live a fairly good life as I know that every moment I have to live is precious.
The anger and misery come from the mythology believers trying to impose their fictions on my life.
"impose their fictions on my life."
EXCEPT no one is doing that to you at all. Its totally all in your head.
There are entire states trying to push Christian curriculum into public schools. Certain US Supreme Court justices make no secret that their religion impacts how they rule. They were in fact chosen because of their religious beliefs, in a nation that is supposed to have separation of church and state.
Exactly.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:51
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
I'm an atheist and I'm not angry and miserable. Nor was I when I was a believer. Believers, especially in Christianity, assume that you should have the same beliefs as they do. Doesn't that seem strange to you?
Don't atheists assume the same thing?
No, I know there are millions of idiots in this country and a large # of them believe in ancient fairy tales.
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:50
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
You mean…share facts?
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:48
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I also hate confounding run of the mill people who believe in Jesus aka nominal Christians with born again Christians, evangelicals, Biblical inerrancy people, and RWNJ politicians.
There is no confounding. Whatever level of belief you have, it is all still silly regardless of what you call it - Vishnu, Osiris, Zeus, Jesus, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
But us weak of faith aren't the holy roller snake handlers trying to make America a Christian nation.
Right - We've got an atheist in the Oval Office who favors Christians because he knows they will love him as long as he caters to them - which he will do, just to stick it to the Libs, whether the Libs are religious or not.
Trump is NOT an atheist.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html
“People are so shocked when they find … out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church and I love God and I love my church”
“When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.’”
At his second inauguration:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/remarks/2025/01/the-inaugural-address/
“But I felt then and believe even more so now that my life was saved for a reason. I was saved by God to make America great again.”
This past week:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-texas-floods-fema-phase-out-b77d9681d2d39f8c201351b54ecf944f
“ “They were there because they loved God. And, as we grieve this unthinkable tragedy, we take comfort in the knowledge that God has welcomed those little beautiful girls into his comforting arms in heaven,” Trump said.”
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:40
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
I'm an atheist and I'm not angry and miserable. Nor was I when I was a believer. Believers, especially in Christianity, assume that you should have the same beliefs as they do. Doesn't that seem strange to you?
Don't atheists assume the same thing?
Anonymous
07/12/2025 10:37
Subject: So many atheists here - why do you care?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are usually so angry and miserable they want YOU to be too. They want to feel right about the topic and they want YOU to feel wrong for your beliefs. From what I've witnessed on this board they're generally an angry miserable bunch. I think while they don't know it or even realize it they might be driven by the devil to pull people away from God. They might be being used.
Think about this: when on these boards have you seen believers trying to covert atheists into believing in God? When have you seen them pushed, shamed and antagonized for not believing in God? Never. Why is that? Does that seem strange to you? It's one way. Ask yourself why is it one way? Food for thought.
+1M Atheists are indeed very angry and combative to try and "prove" the religious people wrong on here. Things that make you go hmmmm.
I'm an atheist and I'm not angry and miserable. Nor was I when I was a believer. Believers, especially in Christianity, assume that you should have the same beliefs as they do. Doesn't that seem strange to you?