Anonymous wrote:“Colleges ceaselessly repeat the mantra that students should take the “most rigorous courses available to them.” Some students, parents, and even counselors are naive enough to trust them.”

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

Move out of your pathetic DC area bubble. Not even close. Bronx Science (which is basically the runner up to Stuy) is also better than those.

Sorry, facts and performance matter.

Everyone around the world knows Stuy and they Bronx Science. A lot of people know TJ. A fair amount of people know NCSSM. No one cares at all about the other ones - might as well be at West Omaha School of Auto Repair.

Because they are large schools and New York City is famous and large and important. Meanwhile the top students in NYC are from rich parents or scholarships kids who go to private or boarding school.

If you look at which schools churn out award winning students, Stuy (and lol at Bronx Science) is down the list.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

Move out of your pathetic DC area bubble. Not even close. Bronx Science (which is basically the runner up to Stuy) is also better than those.

Sorry, facts and performance matter.

Everyone around the world knows Stuy and they Bronx Science. A lot of people know TJ. A fair amount of people know NCSSM. No one cares at all about the other ones - might as well be at West Omaha School of Auto Repair.

Because they are large schools and New York City is famous and large and important. Meanwhile the top students in NYC are from rich parents or scholarships kids who go to private or boarding school.

If you look at which schools churn out award winning students, Stuy (and lol at Bronx Science) is down the list.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

Move out of your pathetic DC area bubble. Not even close. Bronx Science (which is basically the runner up to Stuy) is also better than those.

Sorry, facts and performance matter.

Everyone around the world knows Stuy and they Bronx Science. A lot of people know TJ. A fair amount of people know NCSSM. No one cares at all about the other ones - might as well be at West Omaha School of Auto Repair.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Exactly. That is why I mentioned this. I live in NYC and have friends with kids at allegedly top suburban schools in VA, NC and MD who are obsessed with pushing their kids ahead and think it shows that their kids are so brilliant and their schools are so great. It really doesn't. But they are in their little bubble.

I have also heard that these kids who place into super advanced math sometimes end up struggling if they end up at top colleges because they aren't as prepared as they think they are.

I’ve heard quite a few cases where public school students failed miserably in college calculus class. The AP classes or whatever more advanced math courses offered in these public schools are not well taught. The foundation is just not there.

We did private school summer prep math classes at a local school. Some of the teaching was much worse than in public. It’s hit or miss regardless of the school on teacher quality and fit.

This. Publics do better with math and science, and privates almost always do better with English and social sciences.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

Move out of your pathetic DC area bubble. Not even close. Bronx Science (which is basically the runner up to Stuy) is also better than those.

Sorry, facts and performance matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

Move out of your pathetic DC area bubble. Not even close. Bronx Science (which is basically the runner up to Stuy) is also better than those.

Sorry, facts and performance matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

Move out of your pathetic DC area bubble. Not even close. Bronx Science (which is basically the runner up to Stuy) is also better than those.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

Stuy is not the best STEM magnet school. TJ and Blair SMACS are better.
Florida has better charter schools (semiprivate) like Frazer.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

There was a big three mom recently mentioned that big three send 3.5 kids to Georgetown. Discuss with your school counselor whether that is possible at your school, considering your DC’s high rigor and overall good grades.

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rising senior (finishing junior right now). Rigorous private high school. Recovering a lot of points towards the end but just not enough. What is a realistic outlook on college application? Focusing on T40-60? Is that realistic? For context, B+ to A are considered good grades in DC’s school. DC gets mostly As in other courses, nothing below B+. Won’t major in math or engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Most kids in NYC who enter SHSAT schools (Stuy, Bronx Science, etc.) from public schools end up doing calc as a senior. And these are the best and brightest.

The take calc early phenomenon is dumb. It is not proving anything.

Stuy is THE best STEM magnet school in the country, yet fcps moms say they are very behind.

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Anonymous wrote:Very risky move to take Advanced Cal in junior, which is equivalent to AP Cal BC or even harder. We had a senior taking it who was admitted to Princeton, she pulled a C. Luckily the offer was not rescinded. Had she taken that course in Junior, she would be going to Rochester this Fall!

She doesn't sound like Princeton material if she can only get a C in Calc BC as a senior. What kind of school are you going to with that high grade inflation? My public school kid took it as a sophmore with an A but they also were in tutoring as the teacher wasn't strong.

Advanced calc is NOT calc BC. Advanced calc is a much harder and comes after BC.

So, what is it? MV?

My kids go to a special magnet STEM school. They offer Calc AB, Calc BC, Advanced calc, MV, and DE. You can take Adv Calc after BC, or after taking both AB and BC. It’s like a Calc 3 or C/D if you will. It’s extremely challenging and most kids opt for a different math after calc BC (MV, DE, stats) or stop at BC