Anonymous
06/16/2022 05:42
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I love this board too!
I don’t say this lightly, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart - y’all are worthy of me <3
I don’t say this lightly, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart - y’all are worthy of me <3
Anonymous
06/16/2022 05:36
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This message board rocks! I get on every day lately, hoping for new content, and am never disappointed. Let's all keep up the discussion, because it's part of my daily routine now.
Morning routine before kids wake and chaos ensues:
-put on face serum **not an advertisement**
-feed cats
-make coffee
-check Jen Hatmaker message board
I love you people. You are so smart, hilarious, and have just the right amount of snark. This is better than my 1997 weekly subscription to US Weekly.
I’m impressed and touched that you put your kitties’ needs above your own.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 05:24
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:So many people who go on reality shows end up with ruined marriages. Chicken or egg? Did the fame do it, or is the fact that they chose to go on a reality show (you couldn't pay me enough, i think most people feel the same) a sign of narcissistic tendencies so that their marriages were already doomed to fail at some point anyway?
Fascinating question. I’ve wondered this as well.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 05:20
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:This message board rocks! I get on every day lately, hoping for new content, and am never disappointed. Let's all keep up the discussion, because it's part of my daily routine now.
Morning routine before kids wake and chaos ensues:
-put on face serum **not an advertisement**
-feed cats
-make coffee
-check Jen Hatmaker message board
I love you people. You are so smart, hilarious, and have just the right amount of snark. This is better than my 1997 weekly subscription to US Weekly.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 02:19
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Her book club is $29.99 a month. If only a couple thousand people joined out of her half million followers - and she only took half to offset cost of products and shipping…that explains some of her income but I’m not sure??
Maybe her podcast ads as well? Especially when she has on more famous people that alone probably gets a ton of listens for revenue?
I can’t figure out how some of these people make so much either.
Maybe her podcast ads as well? Especially when she has on more famous people that alone probably gets a ton of listens for revenue?
I can’t figure out how some of these people make so much either.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 01:50
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Where does she get all her money tho? Her latest book was a total bomb, I doubt she even made her advance. Shilling can’t be that lucrative is it?
Anonymous
06/16/2022 01:46
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Yeah a lot of narcs were not abused but the “golden child” of the family who could do no wrong - think wife murderer Scott Peterson. Which is actually a form of abuse. I’ve seen it with my kids’ friends who parents never told them no and always bailed them out. Sadly most of these kids end up in rehab because that’s not the way the world runs.
I can totally see Jenn being the golden child.
Like Ben is to her.
This may be one time when w kids traumatic origins help him in the end or he could have been a narc himself.
I can totally see Jenn being the golden child.
Like Ben is to her.
This may be one time when w kids traumatic origins help him in the end or he could have been a narc himself.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 23:58
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Good point. Her brand new bronco, the tummy tucks, Botox/fillers, endless me vacations, designer purses, stylists (a simple cotton dress from Able is $105) bragging about her powerless with financial planning are all to tell the world Brandon didn’t break her cause she’s winning at being a divorce’. Glennon actually affirmed this on their podcast. Who on earth is she competing with? The women who fell apart post divorce and were naturally grieving in ways that precluded their ability to go into high achiever mode. I assure you those who went straight through the eye of their grief storm will exit healed sooner than she who tried to outrun it with overachieving. Even her relationship with Tyler has this forced dynamic to it. She’s trying to outperform her pain.
After researching causes of narcissism being overly praised by parents is a cause. As is overprotection by parents. So Jen’s overly affirming dad and permissive mom in a highly protective Christian culture may have helped facilitated this outcome. I’ve resisted believing she’s a bona fide Narc but the evidence is piling up.
After researching causes of narcissism being overly praised by parents is a cause. As is overprotection by parents. So Jen’s overly affirming dad and permissive mom in a highly protective Christian culture may have helped facilitated this outcome. I’ve resisted believing she’s a bona fide Narc but the evidence is piling up.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 23:44
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:So did you tell them that on the survey monkey?
I would certainly take the opportunity to air my grievances if they sent me one. See if the church actually responded.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 23:31
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:The sin wasn’t seeking truth it was when I was speculating on the private sexual lives of all of them. None of my dang business, but man I want to figure it all out.😉
I’ve not been fully convinced Jen is a narcissist, though her behavior has shown strong symptomology. Most narcissists experienced neglect and glaring trauma in their childhoods that led to them mastering the art of alternate realities(lying) Jen’s upbringing doesn’t suggest that’s her story. Generally narcissists can’t maintain long term relationships, her friendships last decades, and her family of origin keep her close. Could we be seeing a severely codependent woman having chronic trauma responses surrounded by enablers who haven’t know how to respond to her dysfunction. She feels pressure to drum up the finances as a single mom so she hasn’t taken time to stay silent and truly recover. It’s like there’s a protective personality operating every time she opens her mouth and we all feel the phoniness.
I guess the reason I sought this thread was it all just hasn’t added up and my counselor mind loves to solve hairy messes like this. Call it a gift or a curse I don’t know.
The only thing I may disagree with is the pressure to drum up finances as a single mom. I WOULD possibly see it that way if it weren’t for her expensive vacations, retreats or whatever almost every month. I think she needs to prove to the world and herself that she’s successful by portraying this exotic lifestyle and as her books and conferences have dried up, she’ll grift however she can to keep up the pretense.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 22:52
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how they stay afloat financially. On Youtube it looks like there are like 40 people there on good day. But I guess they don’t really have expenses either. The electric bill I guess. Jason has a day job so I guess he’s not paid a full salary. Brandon & Tray never were.
Their youth ministry person just left, probably because there’s no, you know, youth. My kids hated it when we went there.
Meanwhile, here is one of the most liberal cities in the US, the conservative churches that ANC always branded so uncaring and out of touch are bursting at the seams and have to add more services to accommodate all the new members. Go figure.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 22:48
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I don’t know how they stay afloat financially. On Youtube it looks like there are like 40 people there on good day. But I guess they don’t really have expenses either. The electric bill I guess. Jason has a day job so I guess he’s not paid a full salary. Brandon & Tray never were.
Their youth ministry person just left, probably because there’s no, you know, youth. My kids hated it when we went there.
Their youth ministry person just left, probably because there’s no, you know, youth. My kids hated it when we went there.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 22:42
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
So did you tell them that on the survey monkey?
Anonymous
06/15/2022 20:22
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Go visit some time if you get a chance. ANC is now a sort of pointlessly pseudo philosophical post-Christian 'church' / artists colony led by a small group of tryhards. Imagine a church led by a bunch of college philosophy majors who like to do religious cosplay.
Everything about it reeks of phoniness and pretension.
The head pastor is so trying to make that dumb hat happen. You won't see any Hatmaker there anymore either. Is he trying to say he likes hat makers or something so his boss will come back?
Music is good though. I'll give them that.
Church is on its last legs. Somehow I got a surveymonkey basically asking why we don't go and what's next.
How they grifted a beautiful METHODIST church and turned it into a God?Maybe? Church and concert venue is something else. The fact is, they don't own any of it so if ANC fails the land will go back to the UMC so I supposed no real loss.
But my family hasn't been since they ran a series about all of the ways that white people suck by centering white people and ignoring embarassingly few nonwhites in the congregation. That's when I told my spouse it was time to bounce.
Anonymous
06/15/2022 18:36
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
This message board rocks! I get on every day lately, hoping for new content, and am never disappointed. Let's all keep up the discussion, because it's part of my daily routine now.