Anonymous
05/14/2025 08:12
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Trump changed his tariff policy over 50 times since the inaugural. That is nothing more than stock market manipulation. and according to reports this morning, he only pulled back because someone told him that "his people (ie MAGAs) were being harmed. Well, duh.
Anonymous
05/14/2025 03:17
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stock market is way up
Obviously. Trump has caved on the china tariffs, which is what caused it to tank in the first place.
He didn’t cave. It’s the art of the deal. Why no credit, at all, for anything he or the administration does. What is wrong with negotiating and coming to a more equitable and fair solution for both countries. Isn’t the left all about equity and fairness?!
What did the US get exactly? We all have to pay 30% taxes on Chinese goods now. Trump has expensive egg all over his face. He failed.
No he didn’t. But I guess if you only watch MSNBC it might appear that way.
Care to explain? How is FOX spinning this?
Even The Daily is pointing out that China desperately needs a deal- their economy is not in good shape. I expect more concessions
I’m sure you have a link for this, right?
The Daily is a NYT podcast- sorry thought it was well known. Look in the podcasts app of your phone. Yesterday’s episode.
DP. The NYT seems pretty pro-Trump lately. I canceled my longtime subscription after the election, so not going to listen.
However — Bloomberg said it was a boon to China and “Xi got everyThing he wanted.” He refused to meet with the felon.
If the NYT thinks China is desperate—they stand alone.
You guys don’t even realize how ridiculous you sound- now even the NYT is too conservative for you? You claim they “stand alone” but how would you even know if you’re only reading Bloomberg? I’m sorry but you need to get out of your bubble.
Look, I don’t like Trump and think this whole trade war schtick is dumb but anyone remotely informed knows that China has some issues and it’s economy is heavily dependent on exports to the U.S. Clearly some folks in the Trump admin think they can exploit that but I’m not sure any of them are smart enough to properly execute.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 17:02
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Trump is doing everything he can to make the US a pariah on the global stage.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/china-says-it-wants-to-partner-with-canada-to-push-back-against-american-bullying/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/china-says-it-wants-to-partner-with-canada-to-push-back-against-american-bullying/
Anonymous
05/13/2025 14:06
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stock market is way up
Obviously. Trump has caved on the china tariffs, which is what caused it to tank in the first place.
He didn’t cave. It’s the art of the deal. Why no credit, at all, for anything he or the administration does. What is wrong with negotiating and coming to a more equitable and fair solution for both countries. Isn’t the left all about equity and fairness?!
What did the US get exactly? We all have to pay 30% taxes on Chinese goods now. Trump has expensive egg all over his face. He failed.
No he didn’t. But I guess if you only watch MSNBC it might appear that way.
Care to explain? How is FOX spinning this?
Even The Daily is pointing out that China desperately needs a deal- their economy is not in good shape. I expect more concessions
I’m sure you have a link for this, right?
The Daily is a NYT podcast- sorry thought it was well known. Look in the podcasts app of your phone. Yesterday’s episode.
DP. The NYT seems pretty pro-Trump lately. I canceled my longtime subscription after the election, so not going to listen.
However — Bloomberg said it was a boon to China and “Xi got everyThing he wanted.” He refused to meet with the felon.
If the NYT thinks China is desperate—they stand alone.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 14:00
Subject: Re:Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bookmarking this and going to come back in December. All this speculation isn’t worth anything. The shelves were supposed to be empty and the S&P was supposed to be at 3,000 according to the sky is always falling crowd on here. Gas prices and housing prices are down so the only leg of inflation left to tackle is goods / groceries. If the market is “flooded” with Chinese goods that means inflation will come down because of supply / demand and all that’s left is grocery prices. After that the Fed lowers rates and we’re at 6,500 for the S&P at the end of the year. Book it.
There is a current disruption in the supply that we will experience in a month or so, but perhaps with this pause, and the pre-stocking that took place, we may not feel it too much.
But...the damage is done. Our trade with the closest allies is damaged significantly to the extent that there are international boycotts against US products and the reliability as a trading partner is tarnished and the damage to the dollar is significant.
The longer the felon and couch boy are in office, our return to polite society is over. The aftershocks may hit us much later, too. We just don’t know yet. But, agree, the damage is done.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 13:59
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Hearing at the Court of International Trade re the lawfulness of the tariffs. A 3 judge panel with lots of questions. They weren't persuaded by the plaintiff's lawyer or the DOJ, no ruling was made from the bench.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 13:56
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The mainstream European media is making the US and Trump look like LOSERS
El Pais: Trump y los aranceles: el arte de la marcha atrás (Trump and the Tariffs: the Art of Reversing)
Le Monde: Guerre commerciale : le moratoire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis met fin à la crise sans régler les problèmes de fond (Trade War: The Moratorium Between China and the United States Ends the Crisis Without Resolving Fundamental Issues)
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Die Konsumenten bezahlen für Trumps Zollpolitik (Consumers pay for Trump's tariff policy)
The Guardian: China cautiously welcomes pause in US tariff war
State media editorial says talks mark ‘step toward resolving differences’ but Xi again criticises US ‘bullying’
The “media” is not making Trump and the US look like losers, Trump is a loser and is taking the country down with him.
If anything the media is normalizing this disaster.
This.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 12:24
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stock market is way up
Obviously. Trump has caved on the china tariffs, which is what caused it to tank in the first place.
He didn’t cave. It’s the art of the deal. Why no credit, at all, for anything he or the administration does. What is wrong with negotiating and coming to a more equitable and fair solution for both countries. Isn’t the left all about equity and fairness?!
What did the US get exactly? We all have to pay 30% taxes on Chinese goods now. Trump has expensive egg all over his face. He failed.
No he didn’t. But I guess if you only watch MSNBC it might appear that way.
Care to explain? How is FOX spinning this?
Even The Daily is pointing out that China desperately needs a deal- their economy is not in good shape. I expect more concessions
I’m sure you have a link for this, right?
The Daily is a NYT podcast- sorry thought it was well known. Look in the podcasts app of your phone. Yesterday’s episode.
DP. I'd only give written statements any weight. People say stupid things all the time.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 09:08
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stock market is way up
Obviously. Trump has caved on the china tariffs, which is what caused it to tank in the first place.
He didn’t cave. It’s the art of the deal. Why no credit, at all, for anything he or the administration does. What is wrong with negotiating and coming to a more equitable and fair solution for both countries. Isn’t the left all about equity and fairness?!
What did the US get exactly? We all have to pay 30% taxes on Chinese goods now. Trump has expensive egg all over his face. He failed.
No he didn’t. But I guess if you only watch MSNBC it might appear that way.
Care to explain? How is FOX spinning this?
Even The Daily is pointing out that China desperately needs a deal- their economy is not in good shape. I expect more concessions
I’m sure you have a link for this, right?
The Daily is a NYT podcast- sorry thought it was well known. Look in the podcasts app of your phone. Yesterday’s episode.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 08:44
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The mainstream European media is making the US and Trump look like LOSERS
El Pais: Trump y los aranceles: el arte de la marcha atrás (Trump and the Tariffs: the Art of Reversing)
Le Monde: Guerre commerciale : le moratoire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis met fin à la crise sans régler les problèmes de fond (Trade War: The Moratorium Between China and the United States Ends the Crisis Without Resolving Fundamental Issues)
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Die Konsumenten bezahlen für Trumps Zollpolitik (Consumers pay for Trump's tariff policy)
The Guardian: China cautiously welcomes pause in US tariff war
State media editorial says talks mark ‘step toward resolving differences’ but Xi again criticises US ‘bullying’
The “media” is not making Trump and the US look like losers, Trump is a loser and is taking the country down with him.
As a non-American, I agree.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 08:23
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The mainstream European media is making the US and Trump look like LOSERS
El Pais: Trump y los aranceles: el arte de la marcha atrás (Trump and the Tariffs: the Art of Reversing)
Le Monde: Guerre commerciale : le moratoire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis met fin à la crise sans régler les problèmes de fond (Trade War: The Moratorium Between China and the United States Ends the Crisis Without Resolving Fundamental Issues)
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Die Konsumenten bezahlen für Trumps Zollpolitik (Consumers pay for Trump's tariff policy)
The Guardian: China cautiously welcomes pause in US tariff war
State media editorial says talks mark ‘step toward resolving differences’ but Xi again criticises US ‘bullying’
The “media” is not making Trump and the US look like losers, Trump is a loser and is taking the country down with him.
If anything the media is normalizing this disaster.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 08:21
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The mainstream European media is making the US and Trump look like LOSERS
El Pais: Trump y los aranceles: el arte de la marcha atrás (Trump and the Tariffs: the Art of Reversing)
Le Monde: Guerre commerciale : le moratoire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis met fin à la crise sans régler les problèmes de fond (Trade War: The Moratorium Between China and the United States Ends the Crisis Without Resolving Fundamental Issues)
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Die Konsumenten bezahlen für Trumps Zollpolitik (Consumers pay for Trump's tariff policy)
The Guardian: China cautiously welcomes pause in US tariff war
State media editorial says talks mark ‘step toward resolving differences’ but Xi again criticises US ‘bullying’
The “media” is not making Trump and the US look like losers, Trump is a loser and is taking the country down with him.
I agree with you. Completely. I meant that to anyone with some perspective , the US is losing.
+1
Anonymous
05/13/2025 08:18
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stock market is way up
Obviously. Trump has caved on the china tariffs, which is what caused it to tank in the first place.
He didn’t cave. It’s the art of the deal. Why no credit, at all, for anything he or the administration does. What is wrong with negotiating and coming to a more equitable and fair solution for both countries. Isn’t the left all about equity and fairness?!
What did the US get exactly? We all have to pay 30% taxes on Chinese goods now. Trump has expensive egg all over his face. He failed.
No he didn’t. But I guess if you only watch MSNBC it might appear that way.
I don't watch MSNBC. I do read the wall Street Journal, The Econmist and the Financial Times. The US got nothing but a higher fee paid to China, whicih will be borne by the US consumer. If you understand something other than that, please share it, with a reputable link.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 08:17
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The mainstream European media is making the US and Trump look like LOSERS
El Pais: Trump y los aranceles: el arte de la marcha atrás (Trump and the Tariffs: the Art of Reversing)
Le Monde: Guerre commerciale : le moratoire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis met fin à la crise sans régler les problèmes de fond (Trade War: The Moratorium Between China and the United States Ends the Crisis Without Resolving Fundamental Issues)
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Die Konsumenten bezahlen für Trumps Zollpolitik (Consumers pay for Trump's tariff policy)
The Guardian: China cautiously welcomes pause in US tariff war
State media editorial says talks mark ‘step toward resolving differences’ but Xi again criticises US ‘bullying’
The “media” is not making Trump and the US look like losers, Trump is a loser and is taking the country down with him.
I agree with you. Completely. I meant that to anyone with some perspective , the US is losing.
Anonymous
05/13/2025 08:16
Subject: Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040
Anonymous wrote:The mainstream European media is making the US and Trump look like LOSERS
El Pais: Trump y los aranceles: el arte de la marcha atrás (Trump and the Tariffs: the Art of Reversing)
Le Monde: Guerre commerciale : le moratoire entre la Chine et les Etats-Unis met fin à la crise sans régler les problèmes de fond (Trade War: The Moratorium Between China and the United States Ends the Crisis Without Resolving Fundamental Issues)
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: Die Konsumenten bezahlen für Trumps Zollpolitik (Consumers pay for Trump's tariff policy)
The Guardian: China cautiously welcomes pause in US tariff war
State media editorial says talks mark ‘step toward resolving differences’ but Xi again criticises US ‘bullying’
The “media” is not making Trump and the US look like losers, Trump is a loser and is taking the country down with him.