It will surely come as news to the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers that they have nothing to do with the states.

Didn't say that. I said they are NOT states. Just look at the money the Gates Foundation gave them to bankroll Common Core. Wow.

Good grief! Look at how much the Gates Foundation gave to the National Governors Assn

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database#q/sortdir=asc&k=national%20governors%20association

Anonymous wrote:

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers

Those are NOT states.

It will surely come as news to the National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers that they have nothing to do with the states.

NGA: The National Governors Association (NGA) is the bipartisan organization of the nation’s governors. Through NGA, governors share best practices, speak with a collective voice on national policy and develop innovative solutions that improve state government and support the principles of federalism.

CSSO: The Council of Chief State School Officers is a nonpartisan, nationwide, nonprofit organization of public officials who head departments of elementary and secondary education in the states, the District of Columbia, the Department of Defense Education Activity, and five U.S. extra-state jurisdictions. CCSSO provides leadership, advocacy, and technical assistance on major educational issues. The Council seeks member consensus on major educational issues and expresses their views to civic and professional organizations, federal agencies, Congress, and the public.

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers

Those are NOT states.

Anonymous wrote:

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers say that the Common Core State Standards are their project. Are you saying that they are wrong? Why do you know more about it than they do?

Paid for by the Gates Foundation. And, in what world are associations "the states"?

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers

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I certainly wouldn't trust any political entity that allowed itself to be bought so cheaply.

Don't know much about cash flow, do you?

What about cash flow am I missing? $4 billion is not a lot of money in this context.

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers say that the Common Core State Standards are their project. Are you saying that they are wrong? Why do you know more about it than they do?

Paid for by the Gates Foundation. And, in what world are associations "the states"?

I certainly wouldn't trust any political entity that allowed itself to be bought so cheaply.

Don't know much about cash flow, do you?

Anonymous wrote:

Actually, it *is* true, no matter how many times you try and claim it isn't. The federal government was not at all involved in the development process. They only got involved at the tail end of the process, to try and help states in rollout of Common Core (again, because states generally do not have the agility to do things quickly or effectively). The fed role was "well, if you are going to do this, let us at least provide some extra resources to help you" - the feds did not spearhead or initiate development, nor were they directly involved in development.

Sorry. We're both wrong. Was not developed by the states or the feds. Developed by Gates Foundation. Help from feds came later.

The National Governors Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers say that the Common Core State Standards are their project. Are you saying that they are wrong? Why do you know more about it than they do?

Anonymous wrote:

"Coerce"? How much federal money, though which programs,

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Around 4 billion dollars was at stake

$4 billion, total, among all 50 states, in one round of grant funding? The annual operating budget for Montgomery County Public Schools alone is $2.4 billion. I certainly wouldn't trust any political entity that allowed itself to be bought so cheaply.

Actually, it *is* true, no matter how many times you try and claim it isn't. The federal government was not at all involved in the development process. They only got involved at the tail end of the process, to try and help states in rollout of Common Core (again, because states generally do not have the agility to do things quickly or effectively). The fed role was "well, if you are going to do this, let us at least provide some extra resources to help you" - the feds did not spearhead or initiate development, nor were they directly involved in development.

Sorry. We're both wrong. Was not developed by the states or the feds. Developed by Gates Foundation. Help from feds came later.

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I think it's worth repeating, though, that the standards actually were developed BY THE STATES. Not by the federal government.

LOL! No matter how many times you repeat this, it is just not true.

Actually, it *is* true, no matter how many times you try and claim it isn't. The federal government was not at all involved in the development process. They only got involved at the tail end of the process, to try and help states in rollout of Common Core (again, because states generally do not have the agility to do things quickly or effectively). The fed role was "well, if you are going to do this, let us at least provide some extra resources to help you" - the feds did not spearhead or initiate development, nor were they directly involved in development.

"Coerce"? How much federal money, though which programs,

Race to the Top


Around 4 billion dollars was at stake

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The Common Core State Standards are not a federal program.

However, federal money was used to help coerce states into adopting them. In addition to Gates Foundation money.

"Coerce"? How much federal money, though which programs, and why did the various states decide that the federal money was worth the cost? More importantly, why would you have confidence in the very states that allowed themselves to be "coerced"?

Also, the Gates Foundation is not the federal government. That should go without saying, but I guess it doesn't.

The Common Core State Standards are not a federal program.

However, federal money was used to help coerce states into adopting them. In addition to Gates Foundation money.