Anonymous wrote:After reading the WAPO article today, I am more against CC than before. Gates decided it was a good thing and threw money everywhere. Maybe, it is a good idea, but it was developed and rolled out way too quickly.

I'm a teacher and a Common Core supporter. Common Core standards are so much better than the former MD state standards (especially in reading and writing) that I am thankful they have been adopted as quickly as they have been. I am much happier using Common Core standards in my lesson planning than I was making do with the former MD state standards (aka voluntary curriculum) and I am seeing my own children receiving much better assignments this year (especially in writing.)

After reading the WAPO article today, I am more against CC than before. Gates decided it was a good thing and threw money everywhere. Maybe, it is a good idea, but it was developed and rolled out way too quickly.

Those NPR articles have been a very good read. Don't throw out Common Core but work harder to get it implemented better and weed out the poor books.

The problem is not with Common Core. The problem is with the commercial sector of the educational establishment trying to continue to market the same shitty shlock that they've been pushing for decades, and trying to pass it off as Common Core rather than actually having retooled and aligned to Common Core.

Anonymous wrote:When you break the standards down into so many pieces, it messes with the results.


Were you trying to communicate a thought with the above sentence?

It appears to me that one of the problems is that all the standards are weighted the same. Many of them should be "sub-standards".

Very good article here:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/ed/2014/06/03/318228023/the-common-core-curriculum-void

It describes how many textbooks carry a "Common Core State Standard" sticker (or stamp) but really aren't aligned at all with Common Core. That's causing all sorts of problems.

Anonymous wrote:When you break the standards down into so many pieces, it messes with the results.

Were you trying to communicate a thought with the above sentence?

When you break the standards down into so many pieces, it messes with the results.

It's not the standard that's the problem - it's how people are implementing the standard that's the problem.

Anonymous wrote:Back to the topic at hand...

It's not Common Core that's the problem, it's incompetent textbook companies that are the problem.

http://edexcellence.net/blog-types/common-core-watch

Excellent analysis.

I appreciate this quote:

Note, too, that the Singapore problems—typical of what I’ve seen in Singapore Math—are text-lite. The emphasis is on numbers, manipulating numbers, and problem solving. In too many other examples, including those shared by Louis C.K., the math drowns in a sea of confusing text. In short: if you need that much text to explain why or how to use a mathematical model, you’re doing it wrong.

Back to the topic at hand...

It's not Common Core that's the problem, it's incompetent textbook companies that are the problem.

http://edexcellence.net/blog-types/common-core-watch

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Yes, you do. That's my point.

Did you look into who the school board members were during this teacher's tenure, who the other politicians were that affect Montgomery County's school decisions and see if you voted for them? It might be an eye-opening experience.

Did you? Or do you solve that problem by only voting for candidates who don't win? That way, you can always tell yourself, "Well, I didn't vote for those people." Very convenient.

I live in VA. And I thoroughly research before my vote

Thoroughly research what? What their position is on not firing child molesters? Interesting campaign literature you must have there in Virginia.

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Yes, you do. That's my point.

Did you look into who the school board members were during this teacher's tenure, who the other politicians were that affect Montgomery County's school decisions and see if you voted for them? It might be an eye-opening experience.

Did you? Or do you solve that problem by only voting for candidates who don't win? That way, you can always tell yourself, "Well, I didn't vote for those people." Very convenient.

I live in VA. And I thoroughly research before my vote

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Yes, you do. That's my point.

Did you look into who the school board members were during this teacher's tenure, who the other politicians were that affect Montgomery County's school decisions and see if you voted for them? It might be an eye-opening experience.

Did you? Or do you solve that problem by only voting for candidates who don't win? That way, you can always tell yourself, "Well, I didn't vote for those people." Very convenient.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of known pedophile priests shuffled around in the conservative Carholic church. Don't feed me your line about taxes and voting- it is beside the point. Sometimes the desire to avoid scandal on your institution trumps ethics and doing what is right. It doesn't matter what their political affiliation is, it happens on both sides.

The 'it happens everywhere' or 'it happens on both sides' is a tired excuse.

If I am upset about the way the Catholic church protects pedophiles, I can leave the Catholic church.

I can leave the public schools as well.

The difference is I have to keep paying for them. By law.

So politics and voting DOES matter.

Has anybody said that politics and voting don't matter?

You vote for the people you support. I vote for the people I support. We all pay taxes. That's how it works.

And if you want to tell yourself that I'm voting for people who think that it's just peachy when teachers molest children -- well, go right ahead and tell yourself that.

Yes, you do. That's my point.

Did you look into who the school board members were during this teacher's tenure, who the other politicians were that affect Montgomery County's school decisions and see if you voted for them? It might be an eye-opening experience.