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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

Not PP but umm...considering that this is in the evening and most board meetings are between noon and 4 PM... ???
Try to have a little bit of empathy maybe? Or is empathy only reserved for people who agree with you?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

You are low income? You have time to post here but not show up?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

I don’t think there’s much disagreement that Magruder deserves to be in a holding school before Wootton. But what this misses is that neither would be first in line to use a holding school space - they’re planning to use it for schools that are currently on the CIP. They’ve said repeatedly that a holding school, while necessary for renovations like Wootton, also can be used to expedite less major repairs (like allowing them to replace HVAC systems over the course of 6 months vs. spread out over three summers) and save money in the process. This is good news for Magruder in that those savings could help expedite the County Council cobbling together the needed funding, but obviously bad news in that there is no solution that results in Magruder being placed in any holding school, Wootton or Crown, to create pressure for anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

There is a lot of creative ways for MCPS to get money. Have they considered selling all their unused plots of land that are literally just sitting there?

Where was the fight before? What an a**hole question. While we are truly impressed by the speed in which Wootton families rallied together, this is not reality for our families. A lot of us are working parents making ends meet (high FARMS again). We can’t just show up at board meetings at ridiculous times during the day. But that doesn’t mean we don’t care about our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Is creed the one who said to sue the BOE? As in the board on which she is running for a position? 😳

Multiple of the candidates said that. Creed is the one who said she personally knows an attorney who can help, because she knows the attorney who just won against MCPS in Supreme Court.

Yeahhhhh that seems pretty disqualifying. Considering if she won she’d be on the board while they were being sued. It would have been so easy for her to just not say that but here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

All of that may be true but you being there to “drive urgency” does not make money fall out of the sky.

Where was magruder months ago to fight for this btw? You can’t show up a couple weeks before the vote and hope they take up an amendment. The time to fight for magruder going to crown (ie crown being the holding school) was before the superintendents recommendation.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

I don’t think there’s much disagreement that Magruder deserves to be in a holding school before Wootton. But what this misses is that neither would be first in line to use a holding school space - they’re planning to use it for schools that are currently on the CIP. They’ve said repeatedly that a holding school, while necessary for renovations like Wootton, also can be used to expedite less major repairs (like allowing them to replace HVAC systems over the course of 6 months vs. spread out over three summers) and save money in the process. This is good news for Magruder in that those savings could help expedite the County Council cobbling together the needed funding, but obviously bad news in that there is no solution that results in Magruder being placed in any holding school, Wootton or Crown, to create pressure for anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

Anonymous wrote:What would be the cost to renovate a high school?

A teardown and rebuild is about $300 million right?

What about tearing it down to the studs and rebuilding from there?

I know from a efficiency standpoint it's easier to just bulldoze something and build something from the ground up vs having try to build around something outdated.

But I also find it hard to grasp that schools need to be torn down and rebuilt every fifty years or so. Aren't buildings in cities like DC or NYC older?

Is the need due to lack of maintenance/updates or that there are higher standards here?

Some parts of the Magruder area aren't too far from the Crown site and it's basically a straight shot down Shady Grove Road or 370, if buses are allowed on highways.

The issue is that there are some parts further out, closer out. But if buses can take the highway, 200 makes it a bit easier.

Can't be too different then the Northwood students going to the Woodward location the last couple of years?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

Magruder here. A lot of people like to talk for us without actually talking to us! You are absolutely right MCPS can indefinitely house us at Crown, a state of the art facility no less. This is exactly why we must use Crown first. Once we are in Crown, there will finally be an impetus on MCPS to pay attention to us and make sure we don’t get ignored year after year. Us being in Crown will force the issue. Us waiting for another decade (two decades?) while Wootton is in line for renovation will result in another whole generation of Magruder kids being ignored. We are a high FARMS school with a lot of black and brown kids, and while some people don’t think it—we do matter.

The choice for Magruder is either force MCPS’ hand by going to Crown or wait until a kid dies or is seriously injured—no I am not exaggerating.

Also, I would much rather commute to Crown than the hell that is Wootton Parkway traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Candidate Brett responded directly to her. If the building is genuinely unsafe for her kids, it’s unsafe for every child in the county. This means Wootton is not a good holding school.

If there is money to fix Wootton for other kids, then Wootton can also be fixed for Wootton kids.

You can’t have it both ways. If Wootton isn’t safe, why do pro H parents want Magruder kids to be in an unsafe building?

And, yes, she can COSA out to anywhere assuming her kid has legitimate medical needs.

That’s a red herring bc of course no one wants magruder to be in an unsafe building. And they won’t be bc they won’t use Wootton as a holding school until repairs are done. And those repairs aren’t going to happen for 5-10 until the county has money to actually renovate magruder.

I’m not trying to have it both ways. Wootton is unsafe full stop. No one should be there until a lot a work is done. That’s why we are so lucky we have crown as an option to relocate Wootton 😁

It’s not a red herring. If Wootton is “unsafe,” Magruder would be even more unsafe considering it has a worse FCI per MCPS own analysis. You just said yourself, Magruder kids won’t even get to use Wootton as a holding school for another 5-10 years. So why should Wootton get to randomly jump the line in front of Magruder? Magruder wants to go to Crown. Their school is in worse condition—no one disputes that. Even if you want Wootton to go to Crown, Magruder should get to use it as a holding school before Wootton kids go there.

Bc they can’t indefinitely have Magruder there without a real renovation plan and budget. I agree it’s not fair for Wootton to jump over them but crown is three miles from wottoon and a whole lot further from Magruder so moving wottoon to the building instead makes a lot of geographical sense AND saves the county a whole lot of money. It’s not “random”. Saving money will hopefully eventually get Magruder the renovation they rightly deserve. See, we do agree on something!

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

Is creed the one who said to sue the BOE? As in the board on which she is running for a position? 😳

Multiple of the candidates said that. Creed is the one who said she personally knows an attorney who can help, because she knows the attorney who just won against MCPS in Supreme Court.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we really think they’ll make a final decision on the 26th????

Quite possibly no. My guess is the BOE will want to give a few more months for community feedback and let tempers cool. Also, without a vote, no lawsuit can be filed, so a delay may cause supporters of legal action to worry about other things, and slow down any fundraising. The BOE may push the vote to late June or early July when families are on vacation and not thinking about school. It can then vote quietly.

Would love this to be true.
Taylor insists that vote has to be now so that there is enough time to prepare for Crown opening.

Honestly, I am pro H. But I wouldn’t mind a delay. Crown won’t open until 2027, so why would a few months of delay make a difference? Perhaps a few months of delay where Taylor actually does some real engagement will allow tempers to cool like the other poster said. He shouldn’t be afraid to meet with anti H folks. He should instead try to engage them and maybe he will get some new fans.

I think they need to start over from scratch. First they should solicit community ideas how they should improve, have the major groups vote on the top 3 approaches, and go from there.

That’s what one of the candidates (Brett?) said. Too many options means no real option. Four options in October. Then completely new options in December. Zero community engagement btw once 12/1 options came out, whereas there were multiple community meetings for October options—though they weren’t the real options.

No boundary study will make everyone happy. Someone will be mad at something. But this was done quite possibly in a way that maximizes pissing people off. Seriously, did Taylor sit there and think how can I piss off as many people as quickly as possible?

The options should have come from community groups and voted by the community groups. The biggest players being BBC, DCC, and every school cluster.

Woah woah woah. WE VOTE THE BOE MEMBERS IN. That’s where you vote. They represent each of us. What kind of dysfunctional model are you proposing? Vote on every decision? That’s a recipe for bottleneck and chaos. Your vote is for a BOE member.

And if you don’t like the model, go to a private school where you can vote with your dollars. Otherwise, as taught in montessori, you get what you get and you don’t get upset. Toddlers are taught this and I guess you need to be taught this too.

People can get upset. We never taught our kids that as there is no need and its easy to consider others' needs and feelings. Try it.

Don’t mistake the all caps for anything except for a little drama. It’s totally cool to get upset! But when you take it to the place of lawsuits because you can’t accept outcomes, that’s beyond upset. It’s something more like a combo of bully like behavior with a dash of being pathetic and privileged.

It’s a public school system. Built to meet the needs of the broader public. Not just you. There’s a reason why this part of the county is perceived as having privilege schools - because its parents are a bunch of whiners who can’t even see the spectrum of needs the system needs to serve.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone. I am the “first Asian lady” who was approached. Hopping on here because folks are telling me about crazy allegations of racism.

I just want to clarify—I don’t personally know the individual who approached me. Yesterday was the first time I’ve ever met her. But I don’t think she is racist nor did I feel attacked due to my race. Please do not call or imply that she is racist on my behalf.

I agree with her that this is a hot mess all around (and, yes, this is Dr. Taylor’s mess). I think we should all give each other grace for this situation we are all in. If this person is open to it, I am happy to chat over coffee in real life. And as I told her in person, I admire her bravery for speaking up.

Don’t make this into something it’s not. And if that’s too vague for you: stop with this narrative that she hates Asian women.

Thanks from an Asian woman.

What is the point of that conversation beyond to bully her into agreeing with you? What is wrong with her wanting her kids in a new building that is safer and free of mold?

PP: you will need to ask the white woman what the point of the convo was. She was the one who approached the Asian lady screaming.

There is nothing wrong with her wanting her kid in a new building. As one of the candidates (Creed) said, if she wants to go to Crown, she can go to Crown by herself. 🤷‍♂️

Actually no, she can’t go to crown by herself. That’s not how this works. It’s not a “choose your own adventure”. Stop saying if you want to go to crown so badly just go then. You’re showing how little you understand this process.

Also, it shows how completely unqualified Creed would be for this role. Glad I know not to vote for someone who doesn’t even understand how her desired position works.

She actually can. Creed said it can be done on a case by case basis, and Creed is right. She can COSA her kid to go to Crown. Or she could have been super happy with option D, which would have sent her kid to Crown.

My point is the county needs to make a decision about who is going to crown. It’s not done on an ad hoc basis. Yes of course you can cosa but that’s not what the anti h people keep saying. They make it sound like everyone can just do whatever they want. Also cosas are actually not that easy to get.

COSA for real medical reasons/needs are actually much easier than COSA for other reasons. If her kid has a valid medical reason, he can COSA out of Wootton asap.