Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 23:16     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:Democrats did all sorts of claims about Trump that were false. Now they are mad that Trump does the same to them.
Even Jack Smith in his press conference was talking about capitol riot, when he made no charges against Trump regarding the riot.


Ehhh... Dems made a few claims that were false, but the majority of them were in fact true and proven to be true. Yet his base was convinced the proven truths were "fake news" for absolutely no reason other than Trump said so.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2024 13:55     Subject: Re:Lock him up indictment FL

Cannon is laughably incompetent.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 16:45     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Democrats did all sorts of claims about Trump that were false. Now they are mad that Trump does the same to them.
Even Jack Smith in his press conference was talking about capitol riot, when he made no charges against Trump regarding the riot.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 14:49     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment


Indeed. People have a First Amendment right to engage in hyperbole, though it's perhaps not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred. Indeed, no one thought that a sitting President would ever order (through his AG) an FBI raid on a former President armed and authorized to use deadly force over a NARA document retrieval during a negotiation for their return.


No first amendment right to incite lawless action.

And doesn’t POTUS have complete immunity to do whatever he wants? Can’t have it both ways.


So flying a flag is incitement to lawless action? You really believe this?

As for the MAL raid, it set a bad precedent. We will have to see what comes of it.


You are confused.

Alito’s treason is not connected to the first amendment; it is connected to his position as a Justice.

Trump’s speech is not protected by the first amendment when he is inciting lawless action (a coup, attacking law enforcement, other politicians or their spouses, etc)

The FBI action at MAL was typical. Trump doesn’t get deference for everything.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 14:43     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment


Indeed. People have a First Amendment right to engage in hyperbole, though it's perhaps not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred. Indeed, no one thought that a sitting President would ever order (through his AG) an FBI raid on a former President armed and authorized to use deadly force over a NARA document retrieval during a negotiation for their return.


No first amendment right to incite lawless action.

And doesn’t POTUS have complete immunity to do whatever he wants? Can’t have it both ways.


So flying a flag is incitement to lawless action? You really believe this?

As for the MAL raid, it set a bad precedent. We will have to see what comes of it.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 12:52     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment


Indeed. People have a First Amendment right to engage in hyperbole, though it's perhaps not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred. Indeed, no one thought that a sitting President would ever order (through his AG) an FBI raid on a former President armed and authorized to use deadly force over a NARA document retrieval during a negotiation for their return.

There was no negotiation occurring at the time. Trump and his attorneys asserted there were no more documents at MAL that they knew of. Trump was lying and moving them around to avoid detection. He was never going to turn them over willingly. A raid was the last resort to recover the documents, as required by law. The FBI never intended to go in, guns blazing, and take people out, but their MO is to prepare for as many contingencies as possible. They have a plan *in case* things go south. In actuality, they communicated with the Secret Service before setting foot on the property the morning of the raid. They carried weapons, but didn’t use them. Everything was textbook.

+1 And they went in on a day when Trump wasn’t even there, on purpose.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 12:02     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment


Indeed. People have a First Amendment right to engage in hyperbole, though it's perhaps not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred. Indeed, no one thought that a sitting President would ever order (through his AG) an FBI raid on a former President armed and authorized to use deadly force over a NARA document retrieval during a negotiation for their return.

There was no negotiation occurring at the time. Trump and his attorneys asserted there were no more documents at MAL that they knew of. Trump was lying and moving them around to avoid detection. He was never going to turn them over willingly. A raid was the last resort to recover the documents, as required by law. The FBI never intended to go in, guns blazing, and take people out, but their MO is to prepare for as many contingencies as possible. They have a plan *in case* things go south. In actuality, they communicated with the Secret Service before setting foot on the property the morning of the raid. They carried weapons, but didn’t use them. Everything was textbook.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 11:16     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment


Indeed. People have a First Amendment right to engage in hyperbole, though it's perhaps not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred. Indeed, no one thought that a sitting President would ever order (through his AG) an FBI raid on a former President armed and authorized to use deadly force over a NARA document retrieval during a negotiation for their return.


No first amendment right to incite lawless action.

And doesn’t POTUS have complete immunity to do whatever he wants? Can’t have it both ways.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 11:12     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment


Indeed. People have a First Amendment right to engage in hyperbole, though it's perhaps not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred. Indeed, no one thought that a sitting President would ever order (through his AG) an FBI raid on a former President armed and authorized to use deadly force over a NARA document retrieval during a negotiation for their return.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 11:04     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

This case is over and unlike the biased NY judge, Cannon understands the first amendment
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 11:02     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Smith should ask Cannon to order Trump to have a mental health exam. Paranoid delusions about government agents coming to kill you are pretty common among people with mental illness. He may not be competent to stand trial.


Or he may have simply exaggerated like every politician does when running for office.


Ah yes, lots of politicians are claiming their opponents are trying to assassinate them. Totally normal behavior.


But he wants SCOTUS to decree that POTUS has total immunity, up to and including assassinating a political opponent.

And we know Trump consistently projects everything he wants to do.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 09:23     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Smith should ask Cannon to order Trump to have a mental health exam. Paranoid delusions about government agents coming to kill you are pretty common among people with mental illness. He may not be competent to stand trial.


Or he may have simply exaggerated like every politician does when running for office.


Ah yes, lots of politicians are claiming their opponents are trying to assassinate them. Totally normal behavior.



“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 09:10     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Smith should ask Cannon to order Trump to have a mental health exam. Paranoid delusions about government agents coming to kill you are pretty common among people with mental illness. He may not be competent to stand trial.


Or he may have simply exaggerated like every politician does when running for office.


Ah yes, lots of politicians are claiming their opponents are trying to assassinate them. Totally normal behavior.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 09:04     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Anonymous wrote:Smith should ask Cannon to order Trump to have a mental health exam. Paranoid delusions about government agents coming to kill you are pretty common among people with mental illness. He may not be competent to stand trial.


Or he may have simply exaggerated like every politician does when running for office.
Anonymous
Post 05/26/2024 07:00     Subject: Lock him up indictment FL

Smith should ask Cannon to order Trump to have a mental health exam. Paranoid delusions about government agents coming to kill you are pretty common among people with mental illness. He may not be competent to stand trial.