Anonymous wrote:

History has proven otherwise, that states do not have the ability and agility to adjust quickly.

And, the feds do?

The Common Core State Standards are not a federal program.

The No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 is a federal law, though.

History has proven otherwise, that states do not have the ability and agility to adjust quickly.

And, the feds do?

I think it's worth repeating, though, that the standards actually were developed BY THE STATES. Not by the federal government.

LOL! No matter how many times you repeat this, it is just not true.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So your argument is that it's better for all 50 states to individually develop, pilot, test, implement, vet, etc. etc. etc. etc. 50 sets of standards? Why?

More closely followed accountability. Just look at what happened with Common Core--all that money and not any accountability from the developers.

Evidently you have a very rosy view of state-level politics.

+1000

I was involved in state level politics for over 10 years before switching over to federal, and from my experience there was a whole lot less transparency, less accountability, less oversight, and more corruption at the state level than at the federal.

I think it's worth repeating, though, that the standards actually were developed BY THE STATES. Not by the federal government.

+1000

I was involved in state level politics for over 10 years before switching over to federal, and from my experience there was a whole lot less transparency, less accountability, less oversight, and more corruption at the state level than at the federal.

Which state?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So your argument is that it's better for all 50 states to individually develop, pilot, test, implement, vet, etc. etc. etc. etc. 50 sets of standards? Why?

More closely followed accountability. Just look at what happened with Common Core--all that money and not any accountability from the developers.

Evidently you have a very rosy view of state-level politics.

+1000

I was involved in state level politics for over 10 years before switching over to federal, and from my experience there was a whole lot less transparency, less accountability, less oversight, and more corruption at the state level than at the federal.

Anonymous wrote:

So your argument is that it's better for all 50 states to individually develop, pilot, test, implement, vet, etc. etc. etc. etc. 50 sets of standards? Why?

More closely followed accountability. Just look at what happened with Common Core--all that money and not any accountability from the developers.

Evidently you have a very rosy view of state-level politics.

And as for "the rising storm" - given the data that's out there from states, it has yet to even reach 1%.

How about you get back to us when you at least have a couple percent of the populace that agrees with you?

Anonymous wrote:

"They have the right to" is a bullshit non-argument for why they would or should. People also have the right to stand at the metro and scream obscenities at everyone to come up the escalator but that doesn't mean that they should do it or that it makes sense to do it.

Of course, they should. Just look at what a mess this behemoth of Common Core has become! The states could at least adjust more quickly if they make a mistake.

History has proven otherwise, that states do not have the ability and agility to adjust quickly.

Anonymous wrote:If I were writing them, the first thing I would do is to have classroom teachers at every level review and comment on each standard--to include its value and appropriateness. I would also have them review them for clarity.

And that's exactly what they did. Teachers played a critical role in development
The Common Core State Standards drafting process relied on teachers and standards experts from across the country. Teachers were involved in the development process in four ways:

* They served on the Work Groups and Feedback Groups for the ELA and math standards.

* The National Education Association (NEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), National Council of Teachers of Mathematics (NCTM), and National Council of Teachers of English (NCTE), among other organizations were instrumental in bringing together teachers to provide specific, constructive feedback on the standards

* Teachers were members of teams states convened to provide regular feedback on drafts of the standards.

* Teachers provided input on the Common Core State Standards during the two public comment periods

The claim that teachers were not involved in developing Common Core is being aggressively circulated by several right wing organizations like the Heartland Institute but it is false and has been repeatedly debunked.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/oct/21/public-comments-common-core-hearing/teachers-were-not-involved-developing-common-core-/

So your argument is that it's better for all 50 states to individually develop, pilot, test, implement, vet, etc. etc. etc. etc. 50 sets of standards? Why?

More closely followed accountability. Just look at what happened with Common Core--all that money and not any accountability from the developers.

Anonymous wrote:

Which aspect of the mess

the standards

So your argument is that it's better for all 50 states to individually develop, pilot, test, implement, vet, etc. etc. etc. etc. 50 sets of standards? Why?

Which aspect of the mess

the standards

Anonymous wrote:

"They have the right to" is a bullshit non-argument for why they would or should. People also have the right to stand at the metro and scream obscenities at everyone to come up the escalator but that doesn't mean that they should do it or that it makes sense to do it.

Of course, they should. Just look at what a mess this behemoth of Common Core has become! The states could at least adjust more quickly if they make a mistake.

Which aspect of the mess are you referring to, specifically?

For example, Florida decided to develop and administer its own tests, and that is apparently turning out to be a big mess.

"They have the right to" is a bullshit non-argument for why they would or should. People also have the right to stand at the metro and scream obscenities at everyone to come up the escalator but that doesn't mean that they should do it or that it makes sense to do it.

Of course, they should. Just look at what a mess this behemoth of Common Core has become! The states could at least adjust more quickly if they make a mistake.