Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:52
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:The name Ocean Gate makes me think of that cult, Heaven Gate.
The obsessive pursuit of craving to dive down to the Titanic specifically gives Scientology vibes with Cameron as their L Ron Hubbard and all their absurd SeaOrg quasi-military costumes.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:51
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
The most startling part of this to me is that they found it at all, and in less than a week. The wreckage and detritus from the Titanic covers 2 square miles. Picking out one tiny piece of metal wreckage from all the rest isn't a needle in a haystack, it's a needle in a needle field. It sucks for these people but it does give me hope that one of these decades, we'll find MH370 and get some answers.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:50
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Five men on missing Titanic sub confirmed dead after debris reveals ‘catastrophic implosion’
OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet ‘have sadly been lost’"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/submarine-deaths-missing-titanic-oceangate-b2362578.html
See 27 pages ago
I apologize. I had no idea it was already posted. Thank you for letting me know.
Please don’t worry about it. That poster who mentioned 27 pages sounds grumpy and I guess they have lots of time to read all the pages.
Dp- what the PP posted was breaking news 4 hours ago. What do they think we’ve been discussed here for the past four hours? Actually find it quite rude when people just come and post information without reading what has already been posted. Can you imagine entering an in person conversation this way- bumbling in and interrupting conversation flow?
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:47
Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?
No. Because the Real Time Health Monitoring System also imploded. I do not think you understand the immense pressure the water creates.
I mean, I never claimed to, so I also don't understand why you felt the need to add that dig (though I can come up with plausible reasons).
Anyways, I know it's a lot of pressure, but I would think the pressure increases gradually the deeper you go, not instanteously. And that the monitoring system would pick up on that.
Any health monitoring system would have been operating at 1 atmosphere of pressure inside the hull. You are right in that the pressure increases gradually, but people can’t survive that, so they made a bubble of one atmosphere in the submarine and sealed it up. As it goes down to 12k feet where the pressure is 500 atm, the pressure inside the bubble is still 1 atm. So when it implodes, the water rushes in at that pressure differential.
Imagine a tire blowing up right next to you. Let’s say that tire was pressured to 40 psi. One atmosphere is about 15 psi. So a tire blowing up in your face would be a 1 atm (air around your face) to 2.5 atm differential, so a 1.5 atm difference. Now imagine an explosion where the pressure differential was 500 atm.
Right, but an over-inflated tire will show signs of strain before it explodes, which is what the RTM was supposed to detect.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:45
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Money can't buy you intelligence
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:39
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Five men on missing Titanic sub confirmed dead after debris reveals ‘catastrophic implosion’
OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet ‘have sadly been lost’"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/submarine-deaths-missing-titanic-oceangate-b2362578.html
See 27 pages ago
I apologize. I had no idea it was already posted. Thank you for letting me know.
Please don’t worry about it. That poster who mentioned 27 pages sounds grumpy and I guess they have lots of time to read all the pages.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:38
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nope please explain? They were following the law. Or should only liberal and civic minded companies apply for PPP loan forgiveness?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OceanGate got a $450,000 loan cancelled thru PPP for this nonsense:
https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/oceangate-inc-2458707102
And what is the problem with that? Seriously?
You’re joking.
What a bizarre response. This has nothing to do with liberal or not. The problem is that they got scot-free money from taxpayers for a product that just killed five customers —remarkably high proportion of all the customers it has ever had.
I’d call it a pretty big problem.
DP. You can call anything you want a big problem but that's not one.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:33
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.
On a completely different scale - DH has a friend who is an experienced pilot, and owns his own plane. On numerous occasions he has invited both DH and DS to go with him, and each time I have vehemently put my foot down - absolutely not! DH disagrees with me, but respects my concerns. Of course we're not billionaires nor do we have that billionaire mindset where you think the world and all of its possibilities and experiences are there for the taking, without measuring for risk.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:32
Subject: Re:Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:
That is awful if true. That poor kid was probably crapping himself the entire time and was not enjoying himself at all. The news keeps calling them all explorers but not so much if this is true. Poor kid was a business student in Glasgow and his rich dad who funded his life forced him to go and he couldn’t say no.
Okay, we don’t know that the father “forced “ him to go,
Many a young man his age might not admit they are afraid to another man, let alone a dad you want to convince that you are grown up,?
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:31
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Nope please explain? They were following the law. Or should only liberal and civic minded companies apply for PPP loan forgiveness?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OceanGate got a $450,000 loan cancelled thru PPP for this nonsense:
https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/oceangate-inc-2458707102
And what is the problem with that? Seriously?
You’re joking.
What a bizarre response. This has nothing to do with liberal or not. The problem is that they got scot-free money from taxpayers for a product that just killed five customers —remarkably high proportion of all the customers it has ever had.
I’d call it a pretty big problem.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:29
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.
Presumably the parents paid for it because the ticket cost $250k.
Oh I forgot, that one family paid a half million dollars for this ordeal!!
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:27
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Nope please explain? They were following the law. Or should only liberal and civic minded companies apply for PPP loan forgiveness?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OceanGate got a $450,000 loan cancelled thru PPP for this nonsense:
https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/oceangate-inc-2458707102
And what is the problem with that? Seriously?
You’re joking.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:27
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.
Presumably the parents paid for it because the ticket cost $250k.
They mean, they wonder if the mom fought with the dad about pressuring the reluctant son to go.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:22
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
Anonymous wrote:That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.
Presumably the parents paid for it because the ticket cost $250k.
Anonymous
06/22/2023 16:19
Subject: Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic
That poor kid. I wonder if the parents fought over this before they went. I realize the son was 19 and an adult, but parent pressure can be the worst.