Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:29     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New tonight: After Bolton shut down the meeting where Sondland offered Zelenskiy a meeting if he reopened the investigation, Sondland took Ukrainians to the White House basement to talk "next steps."

So Bolton sent in Fiona Hill, who heard them talking Burisma.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1067861?__twitter_impression=true


Sondland is in a serious box now with contradictory public comments to what others have apparently testified to. Given what came out last night. it seems clear Bolton and Perry are coming clean. Sondland flipping would be the smoking gun to end this nightmare.


And Volker was seen going back into the House hearing room yesterday, reportedly to "review" his transcript. The 3 amigos are working on getting a coherent story. Sondland better come clean because Bill Taylor is testifying next week, and he can fill in the gaps in the texts.


Volker has reason to review the transcript of his testimony based on the questioning by Schiff.....I would want to be sure the record accurately reflects my statements as well.

In a secret interview, Rep. Adam Schiff, leader of the House Democratic effort to impeach President Trump, pressed former United States special representative to Ukraine Kurt Volker to testify that Ukrainian officials felt pressured to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter as a result of Trump withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine.

Volker denied that was the case, noting that Ukrainian leaders did not even know the aid was being withheld and that they believed their relationship with the U.S. was moving along satisfactorily, without them having done anything Trump mentioned in his notorious July 25 phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

When Volker repeatedly declined to agree to Schiff's characterization of events, Schiff said, "Ambassador, you're making this much more complicated than it has to be."

Schiff wanted Volker to agree that "if it's inappropriate for a president to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a president was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country."

Again, Volker did not agree. "I can't really speak to that," he said. "My understanding of the security assistance issue is — "

Schiff interrupted. "Why can't you speak to that, ambassador? You're a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a president would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand just how significant that would be, correct?"

Volker tried to go along without actually agreeing. "I can understand that that would be significant," he said.

Schiff persisted. "And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the president had asked of them, wouldn't it?"

"So again, congressman, I don't believe — " Volker began.

"It's a pretty straightforward question," Schiff said.

"But I don't believe the Ukrainians were aware that the assistance was being held up — "

"They became aware of it," Schiff said.

"They became aware later, but I don't believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied," Volker said.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schiff-pressed-volker-to-say-ukraine-felt-pressure-from-trump



If Volker said that in his testimony, then he lied. The texts show that he knew that the military assistance and the White House meeting were contingent on a public commitment to investigations. He met with Zelensky's aids to tell them what they needed to do, he helped to write the draft public statement for Zelensky, and he let Giuliani approve it, and he was on the texts when Bill Taylor called out the scheme. If Schiff tried to get Volker to say there was a quid pro quo, it is because there obviously was a quid pro quo, and he was committing perjury by denying it.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:27     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:New tonight: After Bolton shut down the meeting where Sondland offered Zelenskiy a meeting if he reopened the investigation, Sondland took Ukrainians to the White House basement to talk "next steps."

So Bolton sent in Fiona Hill, who heard them talking Burisma.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1067861?__twitter_impression=true

Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:26     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Each of these traitors is a typical traitor. They will always sell the others and they know someone will and is selling them out.


You people throw around the term "traitor" so frequently that most of us have simply tuned you out.


What else do you call someone in a position of public trust who has used national policy for personal gain?


A public servant who has abused their office.

A traitor is something different, both colloquially and legally.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:22     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

POTUS and VPOTUS are traitors.
McTurtle is a traitor.
Their enablers, toadies, syncophants and supporters are traitors.
The GOP is the party of traitors.
Anyone who continues to support these criminals is also a traitor.

Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:21     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Each of these traitors is a typical traitor. They will always sell the others and they know someone will and is selling them out.


You people throw around the term "traitor" so frequently that most of us have simply tuned you out.


What else do you call someone in a position of public trust who has used national policy for personal gain?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:19     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Each of these traitors is a typical traitor. They will always sell the others and they know someone will and is selling them out.


You people throw around the term "traitor" so frequently that most of us have simply tuned you out.


Agree. Who is PP even talking about? Sondland? Volker? Taylor? What?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:16     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Each of these traitors is a typical traitor. They will always sell the others and they know someone will and is selling them out.


You people throw around the term "traitor" so frequently that most of us have simply tuned you out.

Most of who you? The traitors? Oh, wait, someone else throws this term around all the time too! You tuned him out too?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:12     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Each of these traitors is a typical traitor. They will always sell the others and they know someone will and is selling them out.


You people throw around the term "traitor" so frequently that most of us have simply tuned you out.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:11     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Each of these traitors is a typical traitor. They will always sell the others and they know someone will and is selling them out.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 09:02     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Sondland can either implicate himself, or he can implicate the President and Giuliani. He won't be able to testify that none of the three of them were directly responsible for what happened.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 08:38     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

That seems unlikely. Sondland has told lots of different stories to lots of different people. Spill the beans? What would that even mean, for Sondland?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 08:34     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New tonight: After Bolton shut down the meeting where Sondland offered Zelenskiy a meeting if he reopened the investigation, Sondland took Ukrainians to the White House basement to talk "next steps."

So Bolton sent in Fiona Hill, who heard them talking Burisma.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1067861?__twitter_impression=true


Sondland is in a serious box now with contradictory public comments to what others have apparently testified to. Given what came out last night. it seems clear Bolton and Perry are coming clean. Sondland flipping would be the smoking gun to end this nightmare.


And Volker was seen going back into the House hearing room yesterday, reportedly to "review" his transcript. The 3 amigos are working on getting a coherent story. Sondland better come clean because Bill Taylor is testifying next week, and he can fill in the gaps in the texts.


Volker has reason to review the transcript of his testimony based on the questioning by Schiff.....I would want to be sure the record accurately reflects my statements as well.

In a secret interview, Rep. Adam Schiff, leader of the House Democratic effort to impeach President Trump, pressed former United States special representative to Ukraine Kurt Volker to testify that Ukrainian officials felt pressured to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter as a result of Trump withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine.

Volker denied that was the case, noting that Ukrainian leaders did not even know the aid was being withheld and that they believed their relationship with the U.S. was moving along satisfactorily, without them having done anything Trump mentioned in his notorious July 25 phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

When Volker repeatedly declined to agree to Schiff's characterization of events, Schiff said, "Ambassador, you're making this much more complicated than it has to be."

Schiff wanted Volker to agree that "if it's inappropriate for a president to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a president was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country."

Again, Volker did not agree. "I can't really speak to that," he said. "My understanding of the security assistance issue is — "

Schiff interrupted. "Why can't you speak to that, ambassador? You're a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a president would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand just how significant that would be, correct?"

Volker tried to go along without actually agreeing. "I can understand that that would be significant," he said.

Schiff persisted. "And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the president had asked of them, wouldn't it?"

"So again, congressman, I don't believe — " Volker began.

"It's a pretty straightforward question," Schiff said.

"But I don't believe the Ukrainians were aware that the assistance was being held up — "

"They became aware of it," Schiff said.

"They became aware later, but I don't believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied," Volker said.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schiff-pressed-volker-to-say-ukraine-felt-pressure-from-trump



Funny that article was written yesterday afternoon after Volker "reviewed" his transcript. Maybe Volker is trying to get the message to Sondland as to what his testimony should be?

Is Volker getting nervous that Sondland is going to be completely honest and spill the beans?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 07:21     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New tonight: After Bolton shut down the meeting where Sondland offered Zelenskiy a meeting if he reopened the investigation, Sondland took Ukrainians to the White House basement to talk "next steps."

So Bolton sent in Fiona Hill, who heard them talking Burisma.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1067861?__twitter_impression=true


Sondland is in a serious box now with contradictory public comments to what others have apparently testified to. Given what came out last night. it seems clear Bolton and Perry are coming clean. Sondland flipping would be the smoking gun to end this nightmare.


And Volker was seen going back into the House hearing room yesterday, reportedly to "review" his transcript. The 3 amigos are working on getting a coherent story. Sondland better come clean because Bill Taylor is testifying next week, and he can fill in the gaps in the texts.


Volker has reason to review the transcript of his testimony based on the questioning by Schiff.....I would want to be sure the record accurately reflects my statements as well.

In a secret interview, Rep. Adam Schiff, leader of the House Democratic effort to impeach President Trump, pressed former United States special representative to Ukraine Kurt Volker to testify that Ukrainian officials felt pressured to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter as a result of Trump withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine.

Volker denied that was the case, noting that Ukrainian leaders did not even know the aid was being withheld and that they believed their relationship with the U.S. was moving along satisfactorily, without them having done anything Trump mentioned in his notorious July 25 phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

When Volker repeatedly declined to agree to Schiff's characterization of events, Schiff said, "Ambassador, you're making this much more complicated than it has to be."

Schiff wanted Volker to agree that "if it's inappropriate for a president to seek foreign help in a U.S. election, it would be doubly so if a president was doing that at a time when the United States was withholding military support from the country."

Again, Volker did not agree. "I can't really speak to that," he said. "My understanding of the security assistance issue is — "

Schiff interrupted. "Why can't you speak to that, ambassador? You're a career diplomat. You can understand the enormous leverage that a president would have while withholding military support from an ally at war with Russia. You can understand just how significant that would be, correct?"

Volker tried to go along without actually agreeing. "I can understand that that would be significant," he said.

Schiff persisted. "And when that suspension of aid became known to that country, to Ukraine, it would be all the more weighty to consider what the president had asked of them, wouldn't it?"

"So again, congressman, I don't believe — " Volker began.

"It's a pretty straightforward question," Schiff said.

"But I don't believe the Ukrainians were aware that the assistance was being held up — "

"They became aware of it," Schiff said.

"They became aware later, but I don't believe they were aware at the time, so there was no leverage implied," Volker said.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schiff-pressed-volker-to-say-ukraine-felt-pressure-from-trump

Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 07:12     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New tonight: After Bolton shut down the meeting where Sondland offered Zelenskiy a meeting if he reopened the investigation, Sondland took Ukrainians to the White House basement to talk "next steps."

So Bolton sent in Fiona Hill, who heard them talking Burisma.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1067861?__twitter_impression=true


Sondland is in a serious box now with contradictory public comments to what others have apparently testified to. Given what came out last night. it seems clear Bolton and Perry are coming clean. Sondland flipping would be the smoking gun to end this nightmare.


And Volker was seen going back into the House hearing room yesterday, reportedly to "review" his transcript. The 3 amigos are working on getting a coherent story. Sondland better come clean because Bill Taylor is testifying next week, and he can fill in the gaps in the texts.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2019 06:59     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:New tonight: After Bolton shut down the meeting where Sondland offered Zelenskiy a meeting if he reopened the investigation, Sondland took Ukrainians to the White House basement to talk "next steps."

So Bolton sent in Fiona Hill, who heard them talking Burisma.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1067861?__twitter_impression=true


Sondland is in a serious box now with contradictory public comments to what others have apparently testified to. Given what came out last night. it seems clear Bolton and Perry are coming clean. Sondland flipping would be the smoking gun to end this nightmare.