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Anonymous wrote:This will forever be a baffling case. There's no evidence of an intruder yet the parents had no motive. My theory is that the son, Burke, accidentally killed JB in a tiff over a midnight snack of pineapple. He then woke up his mom to tell her they had a fight and it was Patsy who found JB dead. Knowing that the family had already lost a child, the thought of losing another child to the justice system was too much for Patsy so she concocted a cover-up to try and point the finger away from the family. Patsy wrote the bizarre random note and planted evidence of sexual assault. I don't think the dad knew until maybe 1-2 days later and by that point they were in too deep to not sustain the story.

But she WAS sexually assaulted. Brutally. Sorry to bring this up but she was penetrated by a broken paintbrush. It was f-ing awful. And the crack her on skull was something like 8 inches. I mean it was insane. I can't picture a 9 year old doing that, and I can't picture loving parents finding her dead cracking her skull more and then sexually assaulting her? Come on. That is what is a bridge too far for me.

I agree that the heinous nature of the injuries on JB seem to point to an intruder because there was no evidence of abuse within the Ramsey household. But how could it be an intruder? There was no evidence of forced entry. There's a theory an intruder came through a basement window but the crime scene pictures showed undisturbed cobwebs. But let's say an intruder got into the house that way. How did the intruder get control of JB in the house without her screaming making enough noise to garner attention? If JB was eating pineapple in the kitchen when the murderer found her, surely a stranger would have caused her to scream hysterically. Yes it was a big house, but still that's odd. And then after the molestation and murder, the killer wanted to stick around the crime scene so he went upstairs near the bedrooms to write a 3 page ransom note on Patsy's notepad and with Patsy's pen before departing? And this pedophile murder knew to ask for ransom in the exact amount of the dad's Xmas bonus? It's just downright bizarre on every level.

Anonymous wrote:This will forever be a baffling case. There's no evidence of an intruder yet the parents had no motive. My theory is that the son, Burke, accidentally killed JB in a tiff over a midnight snack of pineapple. He then woke up his mom to tell her they had a fight and it was Patsy who found JB dead. Knowing that the family had already lost a child, the thought of losing another child to the justice system was too much for Patsy so she concocted a cover-up to try and point the finger away from the family. Patsy wrote the bizarre random note and planted evidence of sexual assault. I don't think the dad knew until maybe 1-2 days later and by that point they were in too deep to not sustain the story.

But she WAS sexually assaulted. Brutally. Sorry to bring this up but she was penetrated by a broken paintbrush. It was f-ing awful. And the crack her on skull was something like 8 inches. I mean it was insane. I can't picture a 9 year old doing that, and I can't picture loving parents finding her dead cracking her skull more and then sexually assaulting her? Come on. That is what is a bridge too far for me.

I don't think the family did it. If it were burke or if burke knew who did it, he'd have told by now. Kids don't keep secrets. The parents stories remained consistent throughout.
Liars will change their story because they can't remember the details of the lie.

Anonymous wrote:This will forever be a baffling case. There's no evidence of an intruder yet the parents had no motive. My theory is that the son, Burke, accidentally killed JB in a tiff over a midnight snack of pineapple. He then woke up his mom to tell her they had a fight and it was Patsy who found JB dead. Knowing that the family had already lost a child, the thought of losing another child to the justice system was too much for Patsy so she concocted a cover-up to try and point the finger away from the family. Patsy wrote the bizarre random note and planted evidence of sexual assault. I don't think the dad knew until maybe 1-2 days later and by that point they were in too deep to not sustain the story.

I agree with this but I think JR knew that night. Neither parent was concerned or looking at the clocks when the ransom demand time again. Why weren’t they terrified the kidnappers didn’t call? Because they knew exactly where their daughter was (basement room) and that she was dead. Patsy wrote their War and Peace of a ransom note. JR helped with some of the staging and coverup. They made sure to have all their friends over to contaminate the crime scene.

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Anonymous wrote:I love all the DCUMers who think they are smarter than Lou Smit, one of the best investigators out there who has closed 90% of his cases. He was brought out of retirement to research this case, and eventually quit because the completely incompetent Boulder police who bungled this case at every turn wouldn't follow the intruder theory. It was clearly an intruder. And DNA later confirmed this, when the skin under her fingers and in her underwear was male DNA not connected to the Ramseys.

I never thought that out of nowhere these parents, with no history of abuse, violence, neglect, or ANYTHING would have brutally raped and murdered their 6 year old and then never bothered to even attempt to get rid of the body.

Just a thought on the DNA. Could the DNA on the underwear have come from the factory where they were made? Or a laundry place...I had a rich cousin who sent all their clothes including socks and underwear to a laundry/dry cleaning place. The DNA under her fingernails...maybe she was picked up by someone at the party the family was at. People are always picking up little kids and her nails could have easily scratched against someone's skin.

The package of underwear were hurriedly picked up while the person was in the basement, if I remember correctly they were a gift for a relative of Patsy’s and not even in JonBenet’s actual size. The rest of the pack remained in the basement so they were never washed and likely factory dna.

Anonymous wrote:I love all the DCUMers who think they are smarter than Lou Smit, one of the best investigators out there who has closed 90% of his cases. He was brought out of retirement to research this case, and eventually quit because the completely incompetent Boulder police who bungled this case at every turn wouldn't follow the intruder theory. It was clearly an intruder. And DNA later confirmed this, when the skin under her fingers and in her underwear was male DNA not connected to the Ramseys.

I never thought that out of nowhere these parents, with no history of abuse, violence, neglect, or ANYTHING would have brutally raped and murdered their 6 year old and then never bothered to even attempt to get rid of the body.

Just a thought on the DNA. Could the DNA on the underwear have come from the factory where they were made? Or a laundry place...I had a rich cousin who sent all their clothes including socks and underwear to a laundry/dry cleaning place. The DNA under her fingernails...maybe she was picked up by someone at the party the family was at. People are always picking up little kids and her nails could have easily scratched against someone's skin.

This will forever be a baffling case. There's no evidence of an intruder yet the parents had no motive. My theory is that the son, Burke, accidentally killed JB in a tiff over a midnight snack of pineapple. He then woke up his mom to tell her they had a fight and it was Patsy who found JB dead. Knowing that the family had already lost a child, the thought of losing another child to the justice system was too much for Patsy so she concocted a cover-up to try and point the finger away from the family. Patsy wrote the bizarre random note and planted evidence of sexual assault. I don't think the dad knew until maybe 1-2 days later and by that point they were in too deep to not sustain the story.

Anonymous wrote:
Look at the 2 words comparing Patsy's writing with the ransom note. Identical.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4040952/JonBenet-Ramsey-ransom-note-written-MOTHER-Patsy-claims-handwriting-expert-grand-juror-voted-indict-parents-reveals-thinks-killed-child-beauty-queen.html

Patsy wrote the note, no question. We just don't know exactly what she was covering up.

I love all the DCUMers who think they are smarter than Lou Smit, one of the best investigators out there who has closed 90% of his cases. He was brought out of retirement to research this case, and eventually quit because the completely incompetent Boulder police who bungled this case at every turn wouldn't follow the intruder theory. It was clearly an intruder. And DNA later confirmed this, when the skin under her fingers and in her underwear was male DNA not connected to the Ramseys.

I never thought that out of nowhere these parents, with no history of abuse, violence, neglect, or ANYTHING would have brutally raped and murdered their 6 year old and then never bothered to even attempt to get rid of the body.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know a whole lot about this case but I have read various articles and one thing really crazy is the amount of people that were in the house and/or connected - i.e. possible suspects!
For instance, there was a man dressed up as Santa Clause in the house that night - but I don't hear anything about him?

Maybe because it wasn't the Ramsy's house you're thinking of. They went to a neighbor's Christmas party that evening then came home to an empty house.

Anonymous wrote:The mom did it. It's actually already been investigated on DCUM

Lol

I don't know a whole lot about this case but I have read various articles and one thing really crazy is the amount of people that were in the house and/or connected - i.e. possible suspects!
For instance, there was a man dressed up as Santa Clause in the house that night - but I don't hear anything about him?

I vaguely recall the media acted like the family was this super rich dynasty who controlled local politics and thus the police department. But the father was just a mid-level aero space or defense (?) exec, right? A dime a dozen in that area — why would the police cover up a murder for someone like him/them?

Look at the 2 words comparing Patsy's writing with the ransom note. Identical.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4040952/JonBenet-Ramsey-ransom-note-written-MOTHER-Patsy-claims-handwriting-expert-grand-juror-voted-indict-parents-reveals-thinks-killed-child-beauty-queen.html

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Anonymous wrote:The letter is the smoking gun. Someone entered the house then spent an hour writing the letter with Patsy's stationery and pen? Please.

That happened to speak like her, and mention the amount her DH's recent bonus, LOL.

There's no who done it.

you have to remember in those days there was no direct deposit, so the bank teller who processed the deposit would have known, possibly other bank employees too. A dumb 20 yr old teller goes home and tells her boyfriend about it, and boom you have more suspects.

There absolutely was direct deposit in those days. I had it at my job (cashier at a grocery store.)

LOL. Direct deposit has been a thing since the 70’s. I’m old and I’ve never had a long-term job where I received paper checks.