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Anonymous wrote:The behavior and shenanigans by the police and prosecutor resulted in the prosecution losing the case. After you find out that someone is immoral, you question what they say and do. I’m not going to put a woman in jail because a man who sends such despicable texts about another human being says she is guilty.

These people are all drunks and need to go to AA. I can’t believe that grown adults even act like this running around in a snowstorm drunk.

None of this would have happened without alcohol, but they can’t see this.

There are so many people involved in this case who have DUIs. Paul O’Keefe in 2020 (guess who paid his bail?), Chris Albert (killed an exchange student), even Jim the Court Clerk in 2006.

Anonymous wrote:From the HBO documentary, I got the sense that Jennifer McCabe totally had a thing for JOK.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The behavior and shenanigans by the police and prosecutor resulted in the prosecution losing the case. After you find out that someone is immoral, you question what they say and do. I’m not going to put a woman in jail because a man who sends such despicable texts about another human being says she is guilty.

These people are all drunks and need to go to AA. I can’t believe that grown adults even act like this running around in a snowstorm drunk.

None of this would have happened without alcohol, but they can’t see this.

There are so many people involved in this case who have DUIs. Paul O’Keefe in 2020 (guess who paid his bail?), Chris Albert (killed an exchange student), even Jim the Court Clerk in 2006.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though the standard of proof is lower in the civil trial, the O’Keefe’s will have a tougher time prevailing over Karen now that there is so much evidence available that John was not hit by a car.

I wonder if they’ll try to settle with Karen’s insurance company rather than go to a trial, now that they’ve seen the compelling evidence. They could walk away with nothing if the civil trial jury sees the evidence the same way this jury did.

Her insurance won't give them anything. She didn't cause his death. What exactly would they be settling? There is no way they should pursue this any longer. They will lose and waste a ton of money.

Wouldn’t taking this to trial be really expensive compared to, say, throwing the O’Keefe’s $50k? I’m honestly asking, I have no idea how this works.

I think there is incentive for the bars not to settle because it may impact their liquor license? But I thought the insurance company would be all about whatever is cheapest.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks cops randomly decided to take out a buddy and frame his drunk wife needs to delete their crime podcast apps. Listening to that crap every day has fried your brain.

+1

Karen Read = Casey Anthony = OJ Simpson.

Like it or not, all were found not guilty.

The Casey Anthony case was a blatant over charge leading to nothing. They didn't have proof of how the kid died, yet they death certified and had to try to prove aggravating factors for the death penalty.

A good prosecutor hates a media case or ignores it as much as possible. A bad one lets the media storm cause them to charge past evidence and not try to do a plea to something they might be able to actually get (like a manslaughter charge).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even though the standard of proof is lower in the civil trial, the O’Keefe’s will have a tougher time prevailing over Karen now that there is so much evidence available that John was not hit by a car.

I wonder if they’ll try to settle with Karen’s insurance company rather than go to a trial, now that they’ve seen the compelling evidence. They could walk away with nothing if the civil trial jury sees the evidence the same way this jury did.

Her insurance won't give them anything. She didn't cause his death. What exactly would they be settling? There is no way they should pursue this any longer. They will lose and waste a ton of money.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those who believe Karen Read is guilty: what if an eye witness came forward or a video was found that showed, without a doubt that John O’Keefe’s death was a slip and fall accident? So, no one would be to blame, it would just be a very sad accident.

How would you feel about this trial if it were proven that no one is to blame for John’s death? How would you feel about Karen Read and the idea that she had been unjustly accused? Would you feel understanding that she had to fight for innocence in court, or would you maybe find it hard to accept that she didn’t do it after thinking of her as guilty all this time?

Just curious if anybody who thinks she is guilty would feel bad if they learned that there was some incontrovertible proof that she had nothing to do with it.

If there were video, I would accept it immediately.

Since you asked, if there were video of KR hitting him, would you accept it?

Anonymous wrote:Even though the standard of proof is lower in the civil trial, the O’Keefe’s will have a tougher time prevailing over Karen now that there is so much evidence available that John was not hit by a car.

I wonder if they’ll try to settle with Karen’s insurance company rather than go to a trial, now that they’ve seen the compelling evidence. They could walk away with nothing if the civil trial jury sees the evidence the same way this jury did.

Anonymous wrote:The behavior and shenanigans by the police and prosecutor resulted in the prosecution losing the case. After you find out that someone is immoral, you question what they say and do. I’m not going to put a woman in jail because a man who sends such despicable texts about another human being says she is guilty.

These people are all drunks and need to go to AA. I can’t believe that grown adults even act like this running around in a snowstorm drunk.

None of this would have happened without alcohol, but they can’t see this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks cops randomly decided to take out a buddy and frame his drunk wife needs to delete their crime podcast apps. Listening to that crap every day has fried your brain.

Or idk he went in the garage by accident and the dog who doesn’t like strangers was in there because they were having a party, the dog jumped him, he fell backwards on the garage concrete step and died immediately. The cop didn’t want the manslaughter charge or legal liability so he put his phone on his chest and dragged him outside at 3:30am after the plow driver’s first pass.

Not sure why I argue with idiots that aren’t even familiar with the very basic facts of the case. Drunk GIRLFRIEND not wife.

Idiots like you? His phone was NOT on his chest but under his body. Embarrassing to run your mouth like that and you just did the same thing!

Anonymous wrote:The medical evidence didn't match the prosecutor's theory of the case. It was speculative.

Did she do it? I have no idea. And that's the point. State bears the burden here. Defense doesn't actually have to present any kind of rebuttal.