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Anonymous wrote:OceanGate got a $450,000 loan cancelled thru PPP for this nonsense:

https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/loans/oceangate-inc-2458707102

And what is the problem with that? Seriously?

You’re joking.

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Anonymous wrote:What were those banging sounds ?? Was hoping it was them.

The ocean is a noisy place. The same thing happened during the search for uss thresher, a naval sub - people heard noises and really wanted it to be from survivors.

Same thing with searching for survivors on 9/11.

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

I'm pretty sure implosion means it was quick.

It happened in less than a hundredth of a second. Probably took 20-30 milliseconds at most.

Would something like this cause a disturbance at the surface, or was it just too deep?

no, you wouldn't notice it. it's like a tiny bubble popping in the ocean

would have created a 'broadband', underwater boom

I doubt that because this thing was so small. If structural failure it probably happened on Sunday when no one was there to listen or look for them. OBE by then.

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Anonymous wrote:What were those banging sounds ?? Was hoping it was them.

I was wondering this too? What was the banging/pinging?

It could have been animal sounds.

But these sounds were heard every half hour precisely?

That is unconfirmed speculation repeated so many times that the gullible believed it was fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

I'm pretty sure implosion means it was quick.

It happened in less than a hundredth of a second. Probably took 20-30 milliseconds at most.

Would something like this cause a disturbance at the surface, or was it just too deep?

If the titan imploded when it lost communications at 1h 45min into the dive, it was already pretty deep because they said it would take 2h to descend to the titanic at 12.5k feet. If it imploded thousands of feet down, some of air inside the sub would have bubbled up, but it would have been dispersed into a billion little bubbles, some of which would be dissolved into the water. The debris would have floated up to the surface, but not all at once. It would have depended on how buoyant each piece was. There would not have been a typical kasploosh like you see in the movies.

The press conference said none of the sonar buoys deployed during the search heard an implosion, so it must have happened before they were dropped. And I don’t know if the mothership had sonar arrays or was listening.

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My god. The 19 year old on the Titan only went because his father was obsessed. “Suleman ‘wasn’t very up for it’ and ‘terrified,’ she claimed, explaining that the 19-year-old expressed his concerns to another family member.”

Ugh, if true, that is so tragic. His dad was a jerk if he pressured his 19 year old into doing this.

Gosh. I don't even like to ask my kid to run errands because "what if something happened an it was MY fault?" Can't imagine putting her in a tin can and going to the Titanic. Crazy

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

I'm pretty sure implosion means it was quick.

It happened in less than a hundredth of a second. Probably took 20-30 milliseconds at most.

Would something like this cause a disturbance at the surface, or was it just too deep?

no, you wouldn't notice it. it's like a tiny bubble popping in the ocean

would have created a 'broadband', underwater boom

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

It's been over 100 years, they have the building plans, everything they needed to know, they now.

Let it RIP

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

No. Because the Real Time Health Monitoring System also imploded. I do not think you understand the immense pressure the water creates.

I mean, I never claimed to, so I also don't understand why you felt the need to add that dig (though I can come up with plausible reasons).

Anyways, I know it's a lot of pressure, but I would think the pressure increases gradually the deeper you go, not instanteously. And that the monitoring system would pick up on that.

Any health monitoring system would have been operating at 1 atmosphere of pressure inside the hull. You are right in that the pressure increases gradually, but people can’t survive that, so they made a bubble of one atmosphere in the submarine and sealed it up. As it goes down to 12k feet where the pressure is 500 atm, the pressure inside the bubble is still 1 atm. So when it implodes, the water rushes in at that pressure differential.

Imagine a tire blowing up right next to you. Let’s say that tire was pressured to 40 psi. One atmosphere is about 15 psi. So a tire blowing up in your face would be a 1 atm (air around your face) to 2.5 atm differential, so a 1.5 atm difference. Now imagine an explosion where the pressure differential was 500 atm.

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

I'm pretty sure implosion means it was quick.

It happened in less than a hundredth of a second. Probably took 20-30 milliseconds at most.

Would something like this cause a disturbance at the surface, or was it just too deep?

no, you wouldn't notice it. it's like a tiny bubble popping in the ocean

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That is awful if true. That poor kid was probably crapping himself the entire time and was not enjoying himself at all. The news keeps calling them all explorers but not so much if this is true. Poor kid was a business student in Glasgow and his rich dad who funded his life forced him to go and he couldn’t say no.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so effing weird. Kneejerk liberal reaction of "billionaires bad >"

And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Idk you couldn't pay ME $250k to get on that thing but I also think they're human beings with loved ones.

Two opposite things can be true at the same time. Of course most people feel bad for their terror, death, loss. And SMDH at the foolhardy, arrogant, wasteful indulgence.

It's like seeing some idiot in a million dollar car driving like a jerk and then having a fender bender. Wasteful indulgence confirms owner stupidity.

And what is it they say? Every billionaire is a libertarian until they need a billion dollar search and rescue effort.

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I am one of those people who does not think it’s moral to be a billionaire, but that doesn’t mean I want them to die or suffer. I just want them to be like Dolly Parton and do good things with their money. And I don’t think that being really sad about it makes somebody a better person than the ones making Orca jokes. We really don’t need to feel bad for these guys (excepting the teenager).

They could be “do[ing] good things with their money” AND also decided to spend 250k to take this trip. It’s not an either/ or.

I wasn’t critiquing how people use their money, I was explaining how i feel about billionaires based on PP’s comment about how liberals think billionaires are bad. The fact that I think it’s immoral to be a billionaire (which some liberals believe) doesn’t mean I want them to suffer. It just means that I’m not going to feel really bad about it when they suffer because they have done something really stupid for no good reason. Like if warren buffet died in a fire in his mansion I’d feel bad for him and think jokes about fires were tasteless. Same if your average family died the same way but I’d feel like those joke were morally reprehensible . And I think most people have degrees of sympathy just like me.

This isn't an accurate comparison. House fires are tragic regardless of how much money you have. However, if a billionaire's house caught on fire because he paid Elon Musk to launch a rocket of the backyard, then I'm not as sympathetic.

Perfectly stated. The PP who keeps replying to you can stop now,

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

I'm pretty sure implosion means it was quick.

It happened in less than a hundredth of a second. Probably took 20-30 milliseconds at most.

Would something like this cause a disturbance at the surface, or was it just too deep?

too deep and quick, they weren't even looking for it when it imploded. Families were angry that OceangGate didn't inform Coast Guard they were missing for 8 hours.....so nobody would have heard it or been listening in

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

According to that lawsuit, the real time hull health monitoring system monitored stress on the structural integrity of the hull and reported to the people inside of the submersible when it was about to crack, about a millisecond before it would happen. Not sure what good it was ever supposed to do - you get to hear a beep right before you die?

According to the company's website (linked earlier in the thread) the monitoring system warns the pilot in time for him to "ascend safely.

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Imagine losing half your family in one fell swoop.

Wow. Now this really gets me. This poor kid went just to please his dad?