Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:51
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:If one of the judges passes in the next month, can ketanji Brown step in or does she have to take breyer's seat?
Not sure. Roberts was originally nominated to take O’Connor’s seat when she announced her retirement but then Rehnquist died and he ended up taking his slot instead.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:48
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who leaked it? A clerk? From which Justice?
Does it even matter?!!! No. The leak isn’t the story. But if I head to bet, it wouldn’t be a liberal clerk.
I’d love to know . Never happened before
Political times indeed
“Never happened before” except for these two other times just involving Roe:
“The Washington Post published a story about the court's internal deliberations, including a June 1972 memo from Justice William O. Douglas to his colleagues that was mysteriously leaked.
Seven months later, Time magazine published the final decision and vote details just hours before the court was due to announce it — the result of an early scoop and a delayed ruling.”
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096097236/roe-wade-original-ruling-leak
Leaks have happened at the court before. No full draft opinion text has been publicly leaked like this before.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:45
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell from Twitter, all that’s happening is people sending boxes of wire hangers to the conservative justices at the Court’s address.
Ain’t all judges republicans/conservatives?
No?
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:36
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’d like the legal community to wake up. This opinion might be the worst I’ve seen in my lifetime. Did a 1l write it as a joke?
It is a mess. There's no way it's a final opinion. Barrett has devoted much of her professional life to anti-Roe writings, and Gorsuch is a much better writer. Surely the 2 of them have massaged it into something that is more palatable.
Then again, maybe that was too hard, and that's why Kavanaugh may defect. He still has to be able to show his face at the Chevy Chase Club.
Go SCoTUS clerks!! Do a krappy draft fast and give it to your buddy to leak!
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:31
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who leaked it? A clerk? From which Justice?
Does it even matter?!!! No. The leak isn’t the story. But if I head to bet, it wouldn’t be a liberal clerk.
I’d love to know . Never happened before
Political times indeed
“Never happened before” except for these two other times just involving Roe:
“The Washington Post published a story about the court's internal deliberations, including a June 1972 memo from Justice William O. Douglas to his colleagues that was mysteriously leaked.
Seven months later, Time magazine published the final decision and vote details just hours before the court was due to announce it — the result of an early scoop and a delayed ruling.”
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/1096097236/roe-wade-original-ruling-leak
Politically effective to do if you have the balls to leak it. And be found out internally.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:14
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
If one of the judges passes in the next month, can ketanji Brown step in or does she have to take breyer's seat?
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:12
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So dangerous of Democrats to be posting the addresses of the Justices online.
Not surprising, I guess. And, the inflammatory rhetoric the elected Democrats are using may just incite one of the crazies to do something dangerous.
I hope these Justices have good security.
Oh, the irony.
The justices don’t have to worry about dying while birthing kids they don’t want, so in that case they should consider themselves lucky and privileged. It’s a very unique and dangerous thing to strip away an individual right 50 years after it was first recognized. They’re not subject to any sort of electoral pressure. Perhaps they need a reminder that for many women, this right is not some glorious hypothetical thought exercise on what their slave holding forebears thought about the rights of women. Over half of women will be stripped of the right to an abortion the day their opinion is issued.
I don’t condone any violence against the justices or the court, but they should take the reaction as a sign of what will come to them and people like them if they follow through on such a radical, tyrannous action. The consequences are going to be swift and grave. I would not be surprised if it came to violence.
Following the Constitution is the opposite of being tyrannical.
Hiding behind an 1860s interpretation of the Constitution, while in fact seeking to impose a religious teaching that most religions and religious people don’t even accept as valid doctrine, is tyrannical. And I guess the coat hangers are going to be showing up at those justices offices from here on out. What’s going to happen to the state level politicians and rank and file? It’s hard to say, but it’s not going to be pretty.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:09
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:I’d like the legal community to wake up. This opinion might be the worst I’ve seen in my lifetime. Did a 1l write it as a joke?
It is a mess. There's no way it's a final opinion. Barrett has devoted much of her professional life to anti-Roe writings, and Gorsuch is a much better writer. Surely the 2 of them have massaged it into something that is more palatable.
Then again, maybe that was too hard, and that's why Kavanaugh may defect. He still has to be able to show his face at the Chevy Chase Club.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:08
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell from Twitter, all that’s happening is people sending boxes of wire hangers to the conservative justices at the Court’s address.
Ain’t all judges republicans/conservatives?
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:03
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
So are they also taking away religious freedom to refuse medical care or blood transfusions for children? Because right now parents have the ability to choose medical treatment or not for their children and some do result in death. But this is all cloaked in religious freedom
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:01
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So dangerous of Democrats to be posting the addresses of the Justices online.
Not surprising, I guess. And, the inflammatory rhetoric the elected Democrats are using may just incite one of the crazies to do something dangerous.
I hope these Justices have good security.
Oh, the irony.
The justices don’t have to worry about dying while birthing kids they don’t want, so in that case they should consider themselves lucky and privileged. It’s a very unique and dangerous thing to strip away an individual right 50 years after it was first recognized. They’re not subject to any sort of electoral pressure. Perhaps they need a reminder that for many women, this right is not some glorious hypothetical thought exercise on what their slave holding forebears thought about the rights of women. Over half of women will be stripped of the right to an abortion the day their opinion is issued.
I don’t condone any violence against the justices or the court, but they should take the reaction as a sign of what will come to them and people like them if they follow through on such a radical, tyrannous action. The consequences are going to be swift and grave. I would not be surprised if it came to violence.
Following the Constitution is the opposite of being tyrannical.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 19:00
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell from Twitter, all that’s happening is people sending boxes of wire hangers to the conservative justices at the Court’s address.
Quelle surprise, the GOP is making sht up to play the victim again.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 18:59
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
As far as I can tell from Twitter, all that’s happening is people sending boxes of wire hangers to the conservative justices at the Court’s address.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 18:14
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Supposedly the R’s are now considering supporting families due to the impending SC decision https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/05/03/gop-families-roe-wade/
I’m betting they’ll provide one box of Pampers after birth and then crow about how much they are doing.
That they are considering this only once Roe is overturned makes me irate. They could have done this at any point before now to help support women and families. Who knows how many abortions might have been prevented if they’d been willing to provide a social safety for women and children before now? They’re not doing this because they care about women and families, they’re doing it to avoid a bloodbath in 2022 and 2024. But once they’re secure that people won’t hold it against them, they will roll back all of that support.
Anonymous
05/04/2022 17:58
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:States Rights is part of the Constitution, abortion isnt.
Go read the Ninth Amendment. You know, the one right before the Tenth one with the “States Rights” in it.
Correct. It’s just so obvious here. What power does the state have to criminalize abortion? Where does the constitution give the government that power?
Explain it to me because that is the question. And I don’t think there is a legitimate state interest in denying pregnant women access to medical care that, if denied, would increase their chances of harm.
They're argument is that the State has the inherent power to control everything not specifically excluded. It flips the entire principle of our democracy upside down. Under their interpretation of the Constitution power flows down instead of up. Rights are not inherent to individuals but rather courtesies given to the people by the government.
Did you grow up here?
I did. DC native even. I am quite aware that history has not always reflected